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Post#241 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:45 pm

Little Italia wrote:I hardly post here but i managed to read every post on this thread. I myself have been reading up on the NWO, Illuminati, Ancient history and what not.

One thing i have to ask you guys is this....

Do you believe in the NWO 2012 Conspiracy?

dec 21 2012 is when the Mayan calender ends.And yes I do believe something big is going to happen,what I do not know.
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Post#242 » by Subway Token » Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:51 pm

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Little Italia wrote:I hardly post here but i managed to read every post on this thread. I myself have been reading up on the NWO, Illuminati, Ancient history and what not.

One thing i have to ask you guys is this....

Do you believe in the NWO 2012 Conspiracy?

dec 21 2012 is when the Mayan calender ends.And yes I do believe something big is going to happen,what I do not know.


UGHH... not to sound rude, but DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

It recycles, it doesn't end.
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Post#243 » by Little Italia » Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:55 pm

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Little Italia wrote:I hardly post here but i managed to read every post on this thread. I myself have been reading up on the NWO, Illuminati, Ancient history and what not.

One thing i have to ask you guys is this....

Do you believe in the NWO 2012 Conspiracy?

dec 21 2012 is when the Mayan calender ends.And yes I do believe something big is going to happen,what I do not know.


UGHH... not to sound rude, but DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

It recycles, it doesn't end.


The Mayans talked about Great Change. That kind of Great change is something i believe will happen. Whether it's good or bad is something that needs to be determined. I found this video on youtube that really opens up my mind on the 2012 Conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfVBt83a ... re=related

There is a 12 part series and i have watched every one. Fascinating stuff.
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Post#244 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:02 pm

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Little Italia wrote:I hardly post here but i managed to read every post on this thread. I myself have been reading up on the NWO, Illuminati, Ancient history and what not.

One thing i have to ask you guys is this....

Do you believe in the NWO 2012 Conspiracy?

dec 21 2012 is when the Mayan calender ends.And yes I do believe something big is going to happen,what I do not know.


UGHH... not to sound rude, but DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

It recycles, it doesn't end.

Yeah the calender ends and recycles.And just putting everything in caps you where meant to sound rude.I've watch and read many things about the Mayans so please with the comments because I didnt put a word in there.
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Post#245 » by Subway Token » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:21 pm

How does a cycle end?
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Post#246 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:30 pm

knicksfan5494 wrote:How does a cycle end?

The Mayans believe that the world ends and will be reborn 5 times every 5125 years and we are at the end of the 5th cycle on Dec 21 2012.


What does that prove?Even if I didnt know that Im on the internent and could look it up.
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Post#247 » by Subway Token » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:37 pm

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knicksfan5494 wrote:How does a cycle end?

The Mayans believe that the world ends and will be reborn 5 times every 5125 years and we are at the end of the 5th cycle on Dec 21 2012.


What does that prove?Even if I didnt know that Im on the internent and could look it up.


But cycles don't end...
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Post#248 » by Little Italia » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:40 pm

Question is...will it be the end of the WORLD itself...or the end our civilization?
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Post#249 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:41 pm

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knicksfan5494 wrote:How does a cycle end?

The Mayans believe that the world ends and will be reborn 5 times every 5125 years and we are at the end of the 5th cycle on Dec 21 2012.


What does that prove?Even if I didnt know that Im on the internent and could look it up.


But cycles don't end...

Well that is true.I didnt say the cycle will end in my 1st post I said the calender ends.And its a cycle till the 5th time and thats when the Mayans believe the cycles end.

Are you trying to stump me or something?
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Post#250 » by Subway Token » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:43 pm

No no no, I just don't understand why it's called a cycle if it ends. It isn't a cycle then. Either that, or the explanation is wrong. I'm stumped myself.
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Post#251 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:49 pm

Little Italia wrote:Question is...will it be the end of the WORLD itself...or the end our civilization?

Well the vid I was talking about over on the next page I think theres a link about 2 pages back.The guy speaking touches on it a little bit he thinks on that date the window of something big like a comet striking us will open.He believes the window is 40 year window which is alot better then what I thought which was what Cayce the sleeping prophet predicted which is the earth will shift on its axis.
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Post#252 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:51 pm

knicksfan5494 wrote:No no no, I just don't understand why it's called a cycle if it ends. It isn't a cycle then. Either that, or the explanation is wrong. I'm stumped myself.

OK my bad.well its like I explained its a cycle the 1st 4 times untill it reaches the 5th one and ends.Which I hope isnt true,I hope there off a cycle.:)
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Post#253 » by duetta » Thu Jun 3, 2010 8:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxECb7zc ... re=related

This was fairly interesting. It is a workshop presentation by Tom Campbell, a NASA physicist who worked with Robert Monroe in exploring OBEs (Out-of-Body Experiences).

Campbell's web site is http://www.mbtevents.com/
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Post#254 » by richardhutnik » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:08 pm

Why the heck do the same people who go off and think that Jesus is a myth on here, and not real, and tied to Sun worship, are going off thinking that 2012 is going to happen, is real and "bad things man" are coming down? Is it the normal version of metaphysics and spirituality are borning, and there is a need to find other expressions?

This looks like a desire to be contrarian for its own sake.

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Post#255 » by richardhutnik » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:09 pm

Little Italia wrote:Question is...will it be the end of the WORLD itself...or the end our civilization?


I think it is the Mayan version of the Y2K problem. They run out of time on their cycle, and need to start a new calendar. This possibly corresponds with some other problem. How about it is an end of a calendar cycle?

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Post#256 » by richardhutnik » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:13 pm

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I just watched the ending and I must say... I don't understand how this ties to anything evil or WOW at all. Maybe I'm just not getting it. Care to explain? You can email me if you'd like to not ruin it for anybody.

dnodelman@yahoo.com


Did you also look into the rest of the story to see how the ending relates and the backstory regarding the lake, the characters and so on? There is a bunch to get caught up to speed on. I did email that address with information on my theories regarding things. Do look up info regarding the story, and the characters. I am NOT going into more details here, because I don't want spoilers to get out.

I did run my theories in a thread on a videogame forum, regarding the game, and people who played the game thought it fit real well.

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Post#257 » by method » Thu Jun 3, 2010 10:49 pm

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Little Italia wrote:Question is...will it be the end of the WORLD itself...or the end our civilization?


I think it is the Mayan version of the Y2K problem. They run out of time on their cycle, and need to start a new calendar. This possibly corresponds with some other problem. How about it is an end of a calendar cycle?

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Mayans are not the only ones that predict 2012,Hopi indians and Edgae Cayce and I believe Nostrodamus and others that I cant remember at the moment have predicted something is going to happen on Dec, 21 2012.For our sake I hope its Y2K rerun.

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Post#258 » by duetta » Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:03 pm

Cayce's earth change predictions have been consistently wrong; of course, he also claimed that humans could change the future by changing their consciousness - so he has that out. The fact is that every earth change prediction made in the 20th century has been wrong. And I've come across a lot of them. And nobody even knows how to interpret Nostradamus' quatrains.

A lot of the doomsday 2000 crowd began to seize on 2012 shortly after the millennium proved to be a dud. This crowd really appears to have a problem with being alive. Humanity faces real challenges that can be easily identified over the next decade. We shouldn't need the calendar of a dead civilization to alert us to that fact.
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Post#259 » by method » Fri Jun 4, 2010 12:19 am

duetta wrote:Cayce's earth change predictions have been consistently wrong; of course, he also claimed that humans could change the future by changing their consciousness - so he has that out. The fact is that every earth change prediction made in the 20th century has been wrong. And I've come across a lot of them. And nobody even knows how to interpret Nostradamus' quatrains.

A lot of the doomsday 2000 crowd began to seize on 2012 shortly after the millennium proved to be a dud. This crowd really appears to have a problem with being alive. Humanity faces real challenges that can be easily identified over the next decade. We shouldn't need the calendar of a dead civilization to alert us to that fact.

I would want nothing more then them all to be wrong believe that.:)
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Post#260 » by j4remi » Fri Jun 4, 2010 12:24 am

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That's what Steinbeck wrot about. DMT is produced during near death experiences and likely responsible for the "light at the end of the tunnel" experience many people have. I got offered 2 grams of it once for 150 dollars and turned it down...you can extract it yourself from tree bark.

Yep thats right.DMT is produced by our own body and is produced in near death experiences to bring us into the other realm where we will be judged.

You could buy 114 grams on line for 45 bucks.But I would buy 2grams for 150 bucks just to experience it.They say every one that takes it meets the same enity and she teaches us how to treat each others better and to take care of earth better.Everyone sees the same things no matter where you are from and how old you are.They also people that experience alien abuctions and it is believe that people that experience alien abductions are over producing DMT in the body.its some crazy things going on I will tell you that much.


I've heard some truly amazing DMT stories. One involved aliens that took a guy a part and put him back together but better...literally improved his being. Since then, I'm determined to try it. When I attempt to extract it, I'll likely post about it.
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