Beasley?

sacking101 · Post #1 » by **sacking101** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:36 am

What do you guys think? He has pretty much fallen out of the heats future plans. He is young and talented and would fit well with tyreke IMO. I love landry but he could very well be gone after this next year. I would love to get him personally but obviously would not fit well if we have JT, Landry, Spencer, and possibly Cousins, aldrich, monroe, favors.

Photo Guy · Post #2 » by **Photo Guy** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:46 am

hbhakta · Post #3 » by **hbhakta** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:38 am

why not ??

scrp for some talent...... sac vs miami....things could change

dozencousins · Post #4 » by **dozencousins** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:38 am

Well since next season is his last guaranteed year salary wise If i were PETRIE I would take BEASLEY for NOC straight up worst case scenerio we cut him at some point next year with no obligation to him there after . However if he works out then great for us !

SacKingZZZ · Post #5 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 4:24 am

First things first, that news bit about the Nets turning down Dooling for him is complete bullsh#t. If that was the asking price somebody would have jumped at that by now. If all it took was a 2nd rounder and some cap space, hell yeah, do it. Dudes a tard but wtf. Just isn't true.

YC42Balla · Post #6 » by **YC42Balla** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 5:12 am

Well since next season is his last guaranteed year salary wise If i were PETRIE I would take BEASLEY for NOC straight up worst case scenerio we cut him at some point next year with no obligation to him there after . However if he works out then great for us !

LOL, I wish that could happen... NOC for Beasley?! that would be sick!! I'd be jumping up for joy. :lol:

We would get rid of Noc's contract and take in a young talent until his contract ends I'm sure.
But the heat would never do this trade... They are looking to move Beasley for CAP space and Draft picks I'm sure or possibly Cheap Expiring Contracts. I think they want to make a splash in this years FA so I can see why they would do some "lopsided trades" in order to get rid of Beasley.

sacking101 · Post #7 » by **sacking101** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 5:37 am

Depending on whether they resign wade or some other big FA depends how they trade him. I believe if they resign wade they will do everything in their power to make him happy. I think we could offer decent players. Either donte, casspi, or hawes. I hate to do it because Beasley is a huge risk but I think the talent would be worth the risk of trading someone who we have other guys in that same position.

Bac2Basics · Post #8 » by **Bac2Basics** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 6:27 am

I would think that the deal that if Sacramento was going to try to deal with Miami in a deal including Beasley it would be more along the lines of

#18 & Beasley
for
#33

Kings absorb Beasley's salary so Miami can be bigger players in the free agent market at the cost of their #18

Beasley for Noc would be a close 2nd place to that deal, but much less likely that Miami would do it.

SacKingZZZ · Post #9 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:20 am

There is just no way something like that would get it done. Beasley and a 1st!? NO WAY. The story is BS, if that's what we offered and the Heat were willing to do it there'd be 28 other teams in line ready to smash that offer to smithereens.

Bac2Basics · Post #10 » by **Bac2Basics** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:23 am

If they're looking to dump salary to maximize their free agent possibilities, they might, I'd be willing to absorb D. Cook for them as well if it made a difference.

Post #11 » by **pillwenney** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:27 am

Yeah, it's really not that ridiculous. Guys with this kind of attitude can infect a team, and they are seriously looking to dump salary. The guy is a pretty major bust.

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN · Post #12 » by **BIRDMAN BIRDMAN** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 1:59 pm

Being a fan of both Miami and Sacto....

Those reports are BS. The reason why NJ declined is because Riley ALSO wanted #3. Thorn rejected ASAP.

Riley aint no foo and I def think he can get much better. I doubt he'd also go for such deal unless Miami gets a wink wink from Bron, Wade and Bosh/Amare that they're gonna team up in Miami. So either way, this may end up good for Miami.

At this point, I just hope the kid gets traded away to another team. I want him to succeed since it's obviously not happening in Miami as long as Spo's there. Best way for both parties is to part ways. I hate this guy who spread the invalid rumor though...he once again damaged Beasley's already damaged value. Beas isnt THAT bad, lazy or anything some people are claiming him to be. His work ethic/D has definitely improved this year. He isnt a serial killer or a top 10 most wanted convict like what they're saying. The dude's only 21 and despite playing under a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) coach, and the wrong system...he still put up 15/6. I cant wait to see him in a run n gun type of system or any other as long as his coach lets him play freely. I wouldn't call him a bust. That's just ridiculous. His value isnt that bad.

Would be sick seeing him in Sacto, though.

Photo Guy · Post #13 » by **Photo Guy** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:12 pm

bdgking wrote:Well since next season is his last guaranteed year salary wise If i were PETRIE I would take BEASLEY for NOC straight up worst case scenerio we cut him at some point next year with no obligation to him there after . However if he works out then great for us !

I would do that as well. However, it takes two to tangle and the Heat are looking for FINANCIALLY favorable deals. Which we COULD provide in a straight salary absorption type deal this summer with our cap space? If we still had Martin and not Landry on the roster I'd be more prone to doing that type of the deal. But we don't. So I wouldn't blow our new found cap space on Michael Beasley of all people. Especially when we have Carl Landry who's similar but better.

Photo Guy · Post #14 » by **Photo Guy** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:17 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:There is just no way something like that would get it done. Beasley and a 1st!? NO WAY. The story is BS, if that's what we offered and the Heat were willing to do it there'd be 28 other teams in line ready to smash that offer to smithereens.

I actually think that's more likely than any Beasley for Noc type deals.

The heat lose out on roughly 7 million in committed dollars by doing that deal. Beasley + guaranteed cap dollars.

If they drafted for us at #18 and did a Beasley + Rights to #18 type deal for a future 2nd round pick sometime in early July. They could set themselves up to add yet another big time Free Agent to go with a re-signed Wade, and a likely signed Boozer(I think he goes to Miami).

OhioKingsFan · Post #15 » by **OhioKingsFan** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:31 pm

Look, if the Kings can get Beasley for basically nothing other than cap space, I don't see how you can turn it down. He's too young to be a "bust", but I will agree that he has not lived up to his considerable hype, and I doubt that ever will. He's too short and doesn't defend.

That being said, with all of our cap space I'd take him and Cook for nothing, I don't see a need to ask for their #18 as well. We won't be signing any Max FA's anyway.

You don't have to make him a starter, but I'd take a flier on him without losing any sleep.

dozencousins · Post #16 » by **dozencousins** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:56 pm

Guys I am not saying a BEASLEY for NOC deal would happen but it easily could .

Lets be real though though Miami would yes like to have as much cap as they can to resign WADE but the fact is they already do so this trade i proposed would have no bearing on weather they resign him or not !

Miami easily could use a small forward especially a good veteran one like NOC reguardless if WADE resigned or not wich i believe he will .
I also believe the WADE wants no part of Beasley on Miami's team and that will be a major factor in his decision to resign or not so Miami trying to dump Beasley has more to do with trying to keep D.WADE happy rather than the $$$$$$$$$$ the only difference between Beasley & NOC'S contract are not that much next year & as far as the KINGS are concerned if Beasley didnt work out we can cut him therefor we would not have to pay him pass this season !

I dont see Beasley as a huge risk because his contract could be done with after this season if he does not work out , He is a power forward that possibly could help and if he is or becomes a cancer to the r=team we can just release him or maybe buy him out and be done with him !

wiltchamberlain · Post #17 » by **wiltchamberlain** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 4:37 pm

bdgking wrote:Guys I am not saying a BEASLEY for NOC deal would happen but it easily could .

Lets be real though though Miami would yes like to have as much cap as they can to resign WADE but the fact is they already do so this trade i proposed would have no bearing on weather they resign him or not !

Miami easily could use a small forward especially a good veteran one like NOC reguardless if WADE resigned or not wich i believe he will .
I also believe the WADE wants no part of Beasley on Miami's team and that will be a major factor in his decision to resign or not so Miami trying to dump Beasley has more to do with trying to keep D.WADE happy rather than the $$$$$$$$$$ the only difference between Beasley & NOC'S contract are not that much next year & as far as the KINGS are concerned if Beasley didnt work out we can cut him therefor we would not have to pay him pass this season !

I dont see Beasley as a huge risk because his contract could be done with after this season if he does not work out , He is a power forward that possibly could help and if he is or becomes a cancer to the r=team we can just release him or maybe buy him out and be done with him !

Agreed. What's the worst that could happen? If he turns out to be uncoachable or cancerous you just release him. I don't know if the Heat will be interested in what we have to give but we might as well give it a shot.

Post #18 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:11 pm

Booz wrote:Being a fan of both Miami and Sacto....

Those reports are BS. The reason why NJ declined is because Riley ALSO wanted #3. Thorn rejected ASAP.

Riley aint no foo and I def think he can get much better. I doubt he'd also go for such deal unless Miami gets a wink wink from Bron, Wade and Bosh/Amare that they're gonna team up in Miami. So either way, this may end up good for Miami.

At this point, I just hope the kid gets traded away to another team. I want him to succeed since it's obviously not happening in Miami as long as Spo's there. Best way for both parties is to part ways. I hate this guy who spread the invalid rumor though...he once again damaged Beasley's already damaged value. Beas isnt THAT bad, lazy or anything some people are claiming him to be. His work ethic/D has definitely improved this year. He isnt a serial killer or a top 10 most wanted convict like what they're saying. The dude's only 21 and despite playing under a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) coach, and the wrong system...he still put up 15/6. I cant wait to see him in a run n gun type of system or any other as long as his coach lets him play freely. I wouldn't call him a bust. That's just ridiculous. His value isnt that bad.

Would be sick seeing him in Sacto, though.

Good insight.

I just don't see how Mia is going to unload Beasley for nothing. I think it would cost us AT LEAST Casspi and a 2nd. I'm thinking this is about fair ATM. I haven't really watched Beasley enough to say what his true potential is. The few times I saw him he looked like he had all the talent in the world but no drive to actually be good. That's just not a formula that will be successful.

Post #19 » by **ICMTM** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:12 pm

Beasley for Nocioni is just a bad deal for Mia period! They could just waive Beasley and that makes more sense.

Sacramento_King · Post #20 » by **Sacramento_King** » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:14 pm

There is absolutely no way the Heat take Nocioni for Beasley. I believe there goal is to cut salary as much as possible. To get Beasley, I would assume that it would be Jones, Beas, Cook and their first for our second or future picks. I think that would be a good move for the Kings. Use there cap space to pick up a higher pick, we could buyout Jones (any idea what his buyout involves) and see what Cook and Beasley brings to the Kings.