Trade Ideas

[crazybranman360]

Mo Williams + Cash for 10th pick + TJ Ford

Delonte West + JJ Hickson + Leon Powe for 12th pick + Darell Arthur + Demarre Carrol

Draft: Gordan Hayword + Cole Aldrich

PG: Daniel GIbson
SG: Gordan Hayword
SF: Lebron James
PF: Antwan Jamison
C: Cole Aldrich

G/F: Jamario Moon
F/C: Anderson Varejo
G: Sebastion Telfair
G: TJ Ford

[Furrski]

Crazy, branman... LeBron wouldn't stay with a roster like that. I like Hayword a lot, though.

[Triumph36]

Mo Williams + Cash for 10th pick + TJ Ford

Delonte West + JJ Hickson + Leon Powe for 12th pick + Darell Arthur + Demarre Carrol

Draft: Gordan Hayword + Cole Aldrich

PG: Daniel GIbson
SG: Gordan Hayword
SF: Lebron James
PF: Antwan Jamison
C: Cole Aldrich

G/F: Jamario Moon
F/C: Anderson Varejo
G: Sebastion Telfair
G: TJ Ford

That trade is awful for us and like Furrski said I don't think that makes LeBron stay. Probably the opposite, actually.

[AlriteWOLF]

Calderon for Mo as per Rumor.

[heathmalc]

Here is a three way trade I put together, using next season's salaries. The three-way is between the Cavaliers, Sacramento, and Toronto.

Cavaliers Out:Antawn Jamison, JJ Hickson, Mo Williams, Delonte West, Jamario Moon, the rights to Eyenga, and two future 1st round draft picks; Cash.

Cavaliers IN: Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu, Jose Calderon, Francisco Garcia

Toronto Out:Chris Bosh, Hedo Turkoglu, Jose Calderon

Toronto IN Spencer Hawes, Andre Nocioni, Antawn Jamison, Beno Udrih, JJ Hickson, 2010 #5 pick, 2011 & 2013 1st rounders from CLE & Cash

Sacramento Out: Beno Udrih, Spencer Hawes, Francisco Garcia, Andre Nocioni, 2010 1st round pick (#5 overall).

Sacramento IN: Mo Williams, Delonte West, Jamario Moon.

Why each team does it:

Cleveland: The Cavaliers are trying to re-make their team on the fly, and convince LeBron to stay; that he can win multiple championships with them. The Cavs bring in a co-superstar in Chris Bosh; Hedo Turkoglu, who when he is motivated, is one of the hardest covers in the league; Jose Calderon - He has defensive problems...just not as bad as Mo's. He isn't quite the scorer that Mo is, but he is a better pure point, and has a nice mid-range game. Francisco Gargia - Garcia is what many people would call Anthony Parker, if he were 5 years younger, and hand a quick release. The Cavaliers take on a bunch of long (bad?) contracts, but the main purpose was to get Bosh...and they do that here, and pick up a 2010 lottery pick in the process. They do lose fan-favorite Mo Williams, and young stud JJ Hickson; but the price & the time are both right.

Sacramento: The Kings get rid of every bad contract they have - Garcia, Udrih, and Nocioni. They'd have liked to keep Hawes, even though he took a step back last season, but it is well worth it to them to lose Hawes, who lost his starting position, and didn't play well with Thompson, to get rid of those horrible contracts. In addition, the Kings pick up Mo Williams, who they think will play similarly with Evans as he did with LeBron, as many call Evans "Lebron lite". The Kings also lose the #5 pick, but there was no player in the draft that they think can crack the rotation for them right now, with the exception of players who are likely to be gone by the 5th pick. Sacramento saves an additional 8 million this season, and over 60 million altogether.

Toronto: In one swift move, the Raptors get rid of Calderon and Turkoglu; two players that are signed to long, high contracts, that were weighing-down the team. The Raptors take back Beno Udrih and his contract, but it is shorter, and for less money than Calderon's, and Beno is a much better shooter, and no worse defensively. Nocioni is another player who seemingly has a bad contract, but it is not as bad as it looks, and the contract declines in salary & the last year is a team option... he will save the team no less than 22 million dollars, and he is a very good defender, who is unafraid to play anyone in the league - he will make the Raptors a much tougher team. The team also loses Chris Bosh, which was going to happen anyway, but they do receive the #5 pick in this year's draft (plus they have their own), Antawn Jamison, who will bring a great leadership to the team, and play at a high level...plus he becomes an expiring contract after the upcoming season... so the Raptors may trade him next summer to a team looking to cut costs. The Raptors also receive young PF JJ Hickson from the Cavs, who is a player that many teams have tried to get from Cleveland over the past year. The Raptors also receive two future 1st round draft picks from the Cavaliers (either 2011 & 2013 or 2012 & 2014, depending upon whether the Cavaliers purchase a pick in this draft. If they do, they Toronto takes the 11 & 13 picks, if the Cavs do not buy/trade for a 1st in the upcoming draft, the the picks would come in 2012 & 2014). Toronto saves 12.5 million this season, and over 120 million over the life of the contracts moved.

[TheOUTLAW]

Sacramento wouldn't give up a first for that package. Sure they get rid of some bad deals but I still don't think it'd be worth a mid to high first for them.

[heathmalc]

Sacramento would make this deal.... and I believe that this is similar to what will eventually happen.

Kings subtract an additional 9 million (8.7) from this season's cap... giving them almost 30 million to spend. Do you think they'd rather have another player in the trade...or the extra cash to go find their own?

Also.. you must keep in-mind... the Kings apparently don't want the #5 pick. Go read some Sacramento newspapers... you may see real quick why I am thinking along these lines.

[klemen4]

Mo,Jamison
FOR
Jose,Turkoglu

Calderon
Turkoglu
James
Varejao
Oneil

[TheOUTLAW]

Now that's just silly. I wouldn't give up either Mo or Jamison to get both Calderon and Turkoglu. Can't see the motivation at all for the Cavs.

[heathmalc]

Now that's just silly. I wouldn't give up either Mo or Jamison to get both Calderon and Turkoglu. Can't see the motivation at all for the Cavs.

Say that again; I want to make sure he heard you!

[heathmalc]

Another three-way deal I came up with.

Cavaliers get: Chris Kaman, Chris Bosh, Baron Davis

Toronto gets: Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, Antawn Jamison, rights to Eyenga, #8 pick (via Clippers), 2012 1st round pick from Cavs.

Clippers get: Jose Calderon, Hedo Turkoglu, Delonte West, JJ Hickson, Cash.

Why each team does it:

Clippers: The Clippers need a SF to make their team complete. Hedo turkoglu was a guy they tried to trade for a couple times before - so he is an easy fit. Jose Calderon is a younger point guard than Baron, without the need to heave shots whenever he has the ball. He also makes 4.5 million less than Baron, is a better FT shooter, and can make mid-range shots consistently. JJ Hickson is a perfect fit for the Clippers as the main back-up PF. He is young, cheap, and talented. The Clippers save an additional 6 million off this year's salary cap, pick up younger talent, pick up the SF they need badly, get a highly desirable young big in JJ hickson.

Toronto: Toronto gets the upgrade at PG that they really need & want, while also getting rid of Hedo & Jose; The pick up Anderson Vaejao - who they have coveted for years-, who will play center, and allow Bargs to move to PF; They pick up Antawn Jamison, who will be a leader on & off the court, and will be their super sixth-man (and his contract will be an expiring after the upcoming season), and they pick-up the #8 lotto pick in this month's draft, in-addition to an extra 1st round pick in 2012 from the Cavs & a prospect, who they like, in Christian Eyenga.

Cavaliers: The main "get" here is Chris Bosh, obviously. But, in addition to Bosh, the Cavaliers improve at the PG position With Baron Davis. Baron isn't a better shooter than Mo, and he is 2 and a half years older, and makes 4 million more per year... but... Baron is playoff tested, and has continuously upped his play during the post-season. The fact that he also can play some defense, is an added bonus. Cris Kaman becomes the new starting center for the Cavs, and although he has had his issues in the past, he is a guy who can really shoot the ball. On the offensive end of the floor, the Cavaliers will have a front-court of Kaman, Bosh and LeBron... one that could go down in history as one of the best ever. Kaman isn't great at defense... but he does have a "Varejao-like" mentality, and will not back down to anyone.

[Pula_86]

PH-CLE Trade #1:
Sixers Get:
Delonte West
Antawn Jamison
Jamario Moon
Sebastian Telfair
JJ Hickson
Cash Considerations

Cavs Get:
Elton Brand
Samuel Dalembert
#2 pick (Evan Turner)

Why Sixers--Clears a considerable amount of cap room saving money and allowing for more future cap flexibility. Get a young player in Hickson to build around in is what is already an exciting young crop of players. The Sixers have stated they would entertain trading the #2 pick to clear Brand's contract. If they cleared both Brand and Dalembert's contract, the opportunity would be too good to pass up.

Why Cavs?--The Cavs take on a lot of bad contracts that hinder their cap flexibility, but the Cavs do get the coveted #1 pick and Elton Brand gives them a big man in the post who can step out and hit shots.

NO-CLE Trade #2:
NO Gets:
Christian Eyenga
Maurice Williams
Cash Considerations
Future 1st round pick
Anthony Parker (expiring_


Cavs Get:
Darren Collison
Peja Stojakovic

Why NO? It is no secret that the Hornets ownership does not want to pay the luxury tax (currently about 8 million over). This would allow the Hornets to slash their cap by dumping Peja's contract, get a solid guard in Delonte West, a future 1st round pick from the Cavs, and a young prospect in Christian Eyenga. The Hornets also know that Collison and Paul do not fit and when Collison's contract is up they won't be looking to resign him. Mo Williams will be a good shooting option for Paul.

Why Cle--The Cavs take on a bad contract, but get an exciting young player in Collison. The Cavs then have a nucleus of Collision, Turner, and possibly James to build for the future. In any case, the Cavs even without LBJ would be in a much better position.

PG Darren Collison/Daniel Gibson
SG Evan Turner/Peja Stojakovic
SF LeBron James/Danny Green
PF Elton Brand/Leon Powe
C Anderson Varejao/Samuel Dalembert

[Triumph36]

That would push LeBron out the door....I'd rather not have that happen.

ETA: And that deal is awful for the Hornets and I still don't buy the crap about Philly trading #2/Brand.

[heathmalc]

That would push LeBron out the door....I'd rather not have that happen.

ETA: And that deal is awful for the Hornets and I still don't buy the crap about Philly trading #2/Brand.

BOTH of those trades suck big-time for the Cavs! I know everyone is high on Collison because the media played him up a lot...

Collison is a horrid defender...which we already have in Mo.... and amazingly, he is even smaller than Mo! Collison also has a very small sample size to judge him by, whereas Mo has been doing the same things for 7 straight years. Nothing against Collison, but since all he is going to bring is scoring, with a worse handle... and a decent chance at having a sophomore slump... then I'd just assume hold onto Mo, and keep the pick, and not have to woorry about Peja... yet another old player, that "used" to be good!

As for the Philly trade - ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

There is no guarantees with Turner! I'd be more inclined to take on Brand if it was for John Wall. But Dalembert AND Brand???????????????????????????? AND we give up Hickson?????? NO thank you!!!!!!

[heathmalc]

Phoenix/ Cleveland trade idea:

Cavaliers send: Delonte West, Antawn Jamison, Anderson Varejao, Parker & 1st round pick/cash

Phoenix sends: Amare S&T; Barbosa.

Why: The Cavs could use Barbosa as their 6th man, and Amare would play the 5 for now. Phoenix has been trying to dump Barbosa's contract for a year...but nobody will take him. If Amare decides not to re-sign with Phoenix, this would be a good situation for both teams. Andy would immediately start, while Jamison would go back to his 6th man role...and be much better than what Barbosa gave. Phoenix would have the option of keeping West for their bench, or dumping his salary to save money and stay under the luxury tax threshold.

[Triumph36]

AV would be redundant in Phoenix because they have Lopez.

I could see Jamison, Hickson, West, & 1st for Amare & Barbosa though.

[mcfly1204]

AV would be redundant in Phoenix because they have Lopez.

I could see Jamison, Hickson, West, & 1st for Amare & Barbosa though.

I would be for such a move. We could start Varejao next to Amare, and probably sign Z to play spot minutes at the 5.

Williams/Gibson/Telfair
Parker/Barbosa/Green
James/Moon/J.Williams
Amare/Powe
Varejao/Ilgauskas

Plus we would still have the MLE to spend on a 4th or 5th big.

[radtech]

GSW trade Corey Maggette and the 34th pick for Delonte West and Jamario Moon.

Why for Cavs, another experienced player who averaged over 19 points per game this past season. Yes he plays the same position as LeBron but of course LeBron can play any position of the court so that takes care of that. He adds size to the backcourt at 6'6 and gets a majority of his points in the paint, either driving hard to the basket or getting fouled. The draft is pretty decent in depth so the 34th pick will yield a solid player.

Why for GSW, West can slide between both guard positions. The GSWs need a backup with CJ Watson a free agent. Moon is a good defender and hits some threes to keep defenses honest. The GSWs are always getting hit with injuries so adding depth at every position is important.

[Grime_Wizard]

Didnt really watch GSW, but does Maggette have anything left in the tank to invest in?

[tidho]

I could see Jamison, Hickson, West, & 1st for Amare & Barbosa though.

Love that deal. What a fun team to watch.

Here's my swing at Bosh...
Bosh, Calderon, Evans, Banks...for...Mo, Jamison, West, Hickson, Powe

Toronto gives $36.7M in salary to receive $29.7M - right at the 20% rule.
Waiving Delonte increases their savings to about $11M.

From a production standpoint...
Mo for Calderon is already being discussed so I'm calling that about even.
Evans and Powe are the same guy.
Banks is a waste.

That boils this trade down to...
Bosh...for...Jamison, Hickson, and $11M.
Not bad value if Bosh should decide that Cleveland is a destination of choice.