Cavs offer Tom Izzo coaching Job.

[507Mack]

A LeBron James team is never desperate.

[TheOUTLAW]

that might actually be true because if we knew we were a LeBron James team we wouldn't be desperate at all

[INKtastic]

that might actually be true because if we knew we were a LeBron James team we wouldn't be desperate at all

that's certainly true. Gilbert is pulling out the stops to keep LeBron, the thing that has me worried is we are counting on LeBron's loyalty to the cavs, but we aren't showing a lot of loyalty to the rest of the cavs

Mike Bron and Danny Ferry are gone. Shaz and Z may be as well. Mo and Delonte are being shopped. That's not really helping the loyalty argument. We need a big name coach and a big name player before July 1, and need to do it without our GM.

[hype_2004]

I don't think there is any question in Izzo's coaching ability. My concern is the power structure of the Cavs. Team discipline has played a huge role in Izzo's success as Michigan St. His system could certainly work, but I question whether the organization will allow him to enforce his brand of basketball. He needs to be able to against all players, including LeBron James if he stays. The problem with the Cavs organization has been that LeBron has influenced too many decisions. He could take a lesson from Kobe Bryant and let the professionals in the front office do their job.

All college coaches to some extent are control freaks some more than others, Izzo and Bobby Knight are prime examples. This kind of attitude will never suffice in the NBA where grown men are paid millions in guaranteed money and are pampered to the core. The coaches get tuned out and they fail due to their inability to adapt. These coaches demand total freedom and control of basketball operations that's what they do on campus they recruit, they scout, they manage and they coach, this won't happen in the NBA, in fact even prominent players have certain power over a team's direction and these college coaches despise that and that attitude almost always leads to failure.

[hype_2004]

Tom Izzo is an excellent college coach but he is a screamer and get in your face'r. Does anyone really think that method of coaching and motivation is going to work AT ALL at the NBA level when the people the coach is yelling at make two to four times MORE money than he does? I don't. It'll be an abysmal failure. I hope Gilbert doesn't f*** this up and hire Izzo.

I am guessing that you have no clue as to who Stan Van Gundy is.

Van Gundy is more of whiner, rarely gets in his players faces certainly doesn't single out anyone that makes a mistake. Izzo is a total control freak, he'll grab a kid, embarass him and tell him he f#cked up in front of everyone, that'll never work with millionaire athletes, it's a disaster waiting to happen and will lead to clashes and Izzo being tuned out.

[gflem]

Well, I understand where you are coming from in regards to college coaches in general, and Izzo is definitely a type A, but I dont have a crystal ball to say what he will do in any situation, and how he will or wont adapt to coaching a pro team if in fact he accepts this offer.
However, I am sure he is wall aware of the differences in the type of players and attitudes he would have to deal with, and how he would need to alter his approach. I would think that is what he is contemplating at this point, especially how he would interact with Lebron if he re-signs. I know a leopard cant change his spots, but in this situation, he has the chance to conquer the biggest challenge any coach can take on, with arguably the best player in the world.
Add in the fact that he would essentially double his salary, and come into a situation where he is a friend of ownership, and he knows that he isnt coming into a frugal organization. He will get every opportunity to succeed without any hinderances as far as salary. He also must be pondering the relationship that he would need to have in regards to organizational structure.
In his present position, he deals with an AD, who presumably doesnt have the power to fire him (neither would Chris Grant) unless he F's up royally like getting his Univ on probation or sleeping with a co-ed, and a President who has to cowtow to him as long as he wins and glad hands the boosters and Alums who contribute to the University. He essentially writes his own ticket.
But, knowing you have a lifetime contract is nice, conquering the world so to speak and doubling your compensation is a tempting offer.
I dont know what Izzo will do, but if Gilbert ends up hiring him, he wont be F'ing things up. He will be taking a calculated risk on a proven winner. I guess you would rather ride the retread bus, but at least we have an owner who is willing to roll the dice and take a chance on winning it all.

[Cookin Baskets]

You guys should hire Byron Scott he has finals experience as a head coach. or wait to a hire coach after finals hope lakers are cheap with Phil Jackson and try to sign him.That could help Lebron stay in Cleveland.

They also need to make a big trade most likely a sign-n-trade for a free agent. Lebron wants to be a contender, that is the biggest issue for Lebron heading into free agency. I think he wants to play with either Bosh, or Wade. Why not, that is a huge chance at multiple titles with the right roster around a potential superstar core. Make that happen Cleveland,Chicago,Miami,New York,New Jersey and Lebron will help you win a title.

[heathmalc]

Here are a few things that's being talked about... links included:

These are excerpts only. Please follow link to read entire stories.

Former MSU head coach gives his view on Izzo/Cavaliers in an interview:

"I honestly think he'll look at this," Heathcote said. "But unless he can get some commitment from LeBron James, the job isn't that good. I think a lot hinges on what (Izzo) feels about LeBron's future. I think he's seriously considering it. He's going to look at it like he does on all things but he's got an awfully good situation at Michigan State, too."

Heathcote believes Izzo would turn down an offer from the Cavs if he's under the impression James will sign with another team.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100609 ... z0qNIGFH1b

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100609 ... Bron-James

Phil Jackson & Doc Rivers give their opinions:

........Someone asked Lakers coach Phil Jackson what he thought of a college coach potentially getting a $6 million contract to work in the NBA.
"Good for him," the Zen Master answered with a smile. "Way to go."......
......."It's not an easy job," the Lakers coach said. "It's 200-something days, depending on how far you go in the playoffs. It's a pretty arduous task, as far as dealing with stars of all ranges coming to the NBA, and that has to go on for 82 games. It's a long march, and that gets difficult. Eighty-two games is a big difference from 30 or whatever you coach in college. It's an arduous task."

.....Jackson's counterpart in these NBA Finals, Boston's Doc Rivers, saw things a little differently. In his eyes, it all depends on the personnel surrounding the head coach.
"I don't think it's tough for college coaches to coach in the NBA," Rivers said. "If you look at it historically, they've all had bad jobs. They've all had bad talent on their teams. I think the first one that gets good players will be a good coach in this league.".....
......"It's usually because a team hasn't done well," Rivers explained. "Usually they don't have a lot of players, and those are the jobs that a lot of the college coaches have gotten. I think it's more that than anything else. There are a lot of college coaches that would be very good NBA coaches."

http://www.nesn.com/2010/06/phil-jackso ... r-him.html

Dick Vitale also believes that Both Tom Izzo & LeBron James will stay with their current teams. Here is an extra link for other stories on the subject:

http://blog.mlive.com/ganggreen/2010/06 ... ive.com%29

[BLACK MAMBA 24]

Dosent matter who the Cavs bring in to coach the Cavs are so scared of Lebron they ll let him do what ever he wants..Mike Brown was a good coach he just coached out of fear of his job and of Lebron leaving **** it if he wants to go let him go..hes been there 7 seasons and the teams in the same spot they were in before he came still no title..

[TheOUTLAW]

That was just dumb

[heathmalc]

Dosent matter who the Cavs bring in to coach the Cavs are so scared of Lebron they ll let him do what ever he wants..Mike Brown was a good coach he just coached out of fear of his job and of Lebron leaving **** it if he wants to go let him go..hes been there 7 seasons and the teams in the same spot they were in before he came still no title..

Nope... not the same spot... if we were, then John Wall would be coming to Cleveland in a couple weeks.

Oh... and the little matter of 270+ wins over the last 5 years, 5 straight playoff appearances, 2 conference finals, NBA finals, division championships,etc.... that is much, much more than we did before LeBron came.

[BLACK MAMBA 24]

Dosent matter who the Cavs bring in to coach the Cavs are so scared of Lebron they ll let him do what ever he wants..Mike Brown was a good coach he just coached out of fear of his job and of Lebron leaving **** it if he wants to go let him go..hes been there 7 seasons and the teams in the same spot they were in before he came still no title..

Nope... not the same spot... if we were, then John Wall would be coming to Cleveland in a couple weeks.

Oh... and the little matter of 270+ wins over the last 5 years, 5 straight playoff appearances, 2 conference finals, NBA finals, division championships,etc.... that is much, much more than we did before LeBron came.

ALL THAT MEANS NOYHING WITHOUT A TITLE.!

[Rise Against]

I think it's time for you to go to bed.