Philly - info from wolves insider?

[shrink]

From an insider at Canis Hoopus

Sorry - some really bad news I heard today 1st off – we offered Jefferson for Brand and were immediately turned down. Phillie simply does not want Jefferson. (at least now)

But the bad news – Phillie has learned that Brand + #2 is not workable for what they want (expiring contact + young player + top 10 pick). Rather than lower the price for taking Brand off their hands – they are now offering Iguodala + #2 for the same high price.

And there are interested teams………with better packages than us.

I have always maintained that Philly would not be able to get a good package for the #2 if they attached Brand's loathsome contract to it, so that makes sense.

But move Iguodala AND the #2? I thought there were concerns those two wouldn't fit together?

[shrink]

I have be told there are about 6 scenarios being pursued. This is one. Detroit is another – which looks to be a 3 team. Houston is another team (especially since it does not look like they will get Bosh) that looks to be a good trade partner.

There will be a boat load of very surprised people if both Jefferson and Love are on the roster come July 1.

[ritt0093]

I have be told there are about 6 scenarios being pursued. This is one. Detroit is another – which looks to be a 3 team. Houston is another team (especially since it does not look like they will get Bosh) that looks to be a good trade partner.

There will be a boat load of very surprised people if both Jefferson and Love are on the roster come July 1.

I think we should have a board wide contest. See who can pre-create the trades mentioned above (Detroit 3 team and a Houston trade). Closest person wins (as judged by the group).

[prefuse73]

How about this then..

Min Trades - Al Jefferson and Corey Brewer
Min Receives - A.I. and #2 pick

Detroit Trades - Tayshaun Prince and #7 pick
Detroit Receives - Al Jefferson

Philadelphia Trades - A.I. and #2 Pick
Philadelphia Receives - Prince (Expiring), Brewer (young talent?), #7 pick (top 10 pick)

[prefuse73]

could increase value with Love instead of brewer
and/or #4 instead of #7 if needed

[Klomp]

Whats the bad news? I saw nothing in there that was bad. The worst was that we offered Jefferson for Brrand (but that has to be a typo, or incomplete info, right?)

I've soured on the Turner love. Lets move on.

[Krapinsky]

I'm sorry, I don't buy this. Moving Iggy and Turner makes zero sense. They wouldn't have hired a veteran coach like Collins if that was the direction they were going to go.

[princeofpalace]

So Pistsons are in play for Philis #2 pick ?

[shrink]

So Pistsons are in play for Philis #2 pick ?

slow down kimosabe. I doubt they have the ponies to get to #4, I think the #2 is out of the question.

[princeofpalace]

Im asking if thats what the rumor is about. And Nets fans think Pistons have enough to get to 3....

[Krapinsky]

Philli's insider says they are not in talks for the #2 pick/Brand, but are having minor talks to get the 10th pick from Indiana or the 13th with Toronto, using Williams and Thad as trade pieces. They are targeting a big man -- Aldrich? Orton?

Further, their ticket office is making phone calls and their sales pitch includes -- Iggy playing at his natural position, new coach, and having a traditional SG.

[moss_is_1]

We offered Jefferson for Brand and we're turned down? Brand and #2? I could see them turning it down since Al is better, but he's still expensive and a bad fit for there team.

[Tango21]

Im asking if thats what the rumor is about. And Nets fans think Pistons have enough to get to 3....

Like what

[Krapinsky]

Im asking if thats what the rumor is about. And Nets fans think Pistons have enough to get to 3....

Like what

Yeah, that surprises me too.

[Calinks]

What? I find it a little hard to believe that we offered Al for Brand and I find it really hard to believe that Philly instantly turned that down.

[Tango21]

What? I find it a little hard to believe that we offered Al for Brand and I find it really hard to believe that Philly instantly turned that down.

I dont. If i were them Id rather keep Turner and deal with Brand later. Plus if we did the Al/4 Brand/2 swap theyd want Cousins over Johnson but Al/Cousins wouldnt work well together imo. We'll see what happens

[Worm Guts]

What? I find it a little hard to believe that we offered Al for Brand and I find it really hard to believe that Philly instantly turned that down.

I think it's a given that the #2 was a part of that deal.

[Worm Guts]

What? I find it a little hard to believe that we offered Al for Brand and I find it really hard to believe that Philly instantly turned that down.

I think it's a given that the #2 was a part of that deal.

[Tango21]

Im asking if thats what the rumor is about. And Nets fans think Pistons have enough to get to 3....

Like what

Yeah, that surprises me too.

Why take Derrick Favors when Detroit offers them Charlie "The Beast" Villanueva

[revprodeji]

1.) I cannot speak for or against the "insider" I have very limited experience with him, but I asked a mutual friend about him.

2.) He said Jefferson for Brand+2nd. Not just Brand for Jefferson. Philly wants cap flexibility so Jefferson's contract would make no sense for them. We all knew that.

3.) I can confirm the multiple scenarios as well as the Randolph deal. We are talking to everyone right now.