Answer to PG problems: Tommy Mason-Griffin

[nycefnl]

Atlanta should do whatever they can to move up to get this guy. To me he's more of a problem to defenses the John Wall will be. The dude is like Westbrook...He's unguardable! Coach Avery is the perfect guy to groom this kid. He's a bit small but so is Nelson and Orlando isn't complaining.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDS9MEA4ytg&feature=related[/youtube]

I'll be back in a few years to say I told u so.

[evildallas]

Like Westbrook? Not at 5'10". I got to say I wasn't that impressed with that highlight reel. He didn't look unguardably quick to me. Put me in the camp with DraftExpress and Nbadraft.net as I don't think he gets drafted until late 2nd if at all.

[nycefnl]

these PG will always look human because of the lack of illegal defense calls in college. In the pros, he'll be the best PG from the draft. Mark my words...I think the John Wall hype is a product of a weak draft.

[HoopsGuru25]

Off topic...but Ryan Harrow(NC State commit from Marietta)is going to be a stud. He won't get drafted in the top 3 because of his size...but I believe he's going to be a very good NBA player down the line. He's very similar to Rondo when he was at Oak Hill with Josh Smith.

[HoopsGuru25]

Atlanta should do whatever they can to move up to get this guy. To me he's more of a problem to defenses the John Wall will be. The dude is like Westbrook...He's unguardable! Coach Avery is the perfect guy to groom this kid. He's a bit small but so is Nelson and Orlando isn't complaining.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDS9MEA4ytg&feature=related[/youtube]

I'll be back in a few years to say I told u so.

Good ball handler with a smooth jumper. He definitely has a nice pull up shot....but it's a little troubling that a 5'11 point guard can't seem to get past random white guys(no offense) in the Big 12. The only play where he looked quick was the sequence from 3:40 to 3:53.His 1st step is extremely slow for an NBA point guard which is probably why he shot a higher percentage on 3s than 2s and why isn't a 1st round pick on any mock. He's no where near the kind of athlete Westbrook was in college.

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[nycefnl]

Good ball handler with a smooth jumper. He definitely has a nice pull up shot....but it's a little troubling that a 5'11 point guard can't seem to get past random white guys(no offense) in the Big 12. The only play where he looked quick was the sequence from 3:40 to 3:53.His 1st step is extremely slow for an NBA point guard which is probably why he shot a higher percentage on 3s than 2s and why isn't a 1st round pick on any mock. He's no where near the kind of athlete Westbrook was in college.

Part of my point is that Teague is not the answer. Secondly, Atlanta is drafting low 1st round.... I think maybe if you draft this guy...you can than trade Teague & Marvin for 76ers' 2nd pick overall and take on Brand and bring him off the bench. (I know his contract is huge but if you want to win you gotta spend) Draft Turner and there's your replacement for Johnson with a PF that is as good as they come when healthy.

Then try to get a Milic to sign here or trade Horford for a legit center like the Clippers' DeAndre Jordan.

PG Mason/Bibby
SG Crawford/Evans
SF Turner/Evans
PF Josh/Brand
C Milic/DeAndre

[azuresou1]

LOL? 76ers are not trading us the 2nd pick for Marvin/Teague even if we take Brand, and then you want us to trade Al Horford for DeAndre Jordan? What?

[parson]

I like DeAndre Jordan but he's not yet a "legit center."

But I do believe PHI would trade Brand/#2 for Marvelous/Bibby. I also believe Brand is finished.

Reason with me: if the 6ers are willing to give up the 2nd pick OVERALL in the draft in order to get rid of Elton Brand, what does that tell you about him? The guy has great length, muscle and skills, all of which would still make him a great player if he were healthy.

[HoopsGuru25]

Reason with me: if the 6ers are willing to give up the 2nd pick OVERALL in the draft in order to get rid of Elton Brand, what does that tell you about him?

That Chad Ford is the least accurate "insider" on ESPN?

[nycefnl]

I like DeAndre Jordan but he's not yet a "legit center."

But I do believe PHI would trade Brand/#2 for Marvelous/Bibby. I also believe Brand is finished.

Reason with me: if the 6ers are willing to give up the 2nd pick OVERALL in the draft in order to get rid of Elton Brand, what does that tell you about him? The guy has great length, muscle and skills, all of which would still make him a great player if he were healthy.

It's either you want to win a title or you don't....Joe Johnson is not resigning and even with the Hawks weren't gonna win a championship. The Hawks failures are because Horford is not a legit center....and Bibby isn't a legit PG.... Mason & DeAndre fit that mold. Horford at center will never get the Hawks a championship. He's a PF but the Hawks have Josh their...so trade some chips for the right ones. To add Mason, DeAndre, Brand (off the bench) Turner and Milic (for size) to the starting lineup would give you a balanced starting five with a good bench.

[nycefnl]

LOL? 76ers are not trading us the 2nd pick for Marvin/Teague even if we take Brand, and then you want us to trade Al Horford for DeAndre Jordan? What?

Trading a 6'9" center who can't guard the bigs in this league for a 6'11" center doesn't make sense to you?


23 pts 12 rebounds against Lakers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUEgAFHAmk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpEZ5T7 ... re=related

[theatlfan]

Reason with me: if the 6ers are willing to give up the 2nd pick OVERALL in the draft in order to get rid of Elton Brand, what does that tell you about him?

That Chad Ford is the least accurate "insider" on ESPN?

I've seen this rumor from several sources - not just Ford. It's either other sources are confident enough to run with Ford (in which case, his overall accuracy shouldn't be *that* discounted) or it's really something that PHI is considering. Either way though, there's no way that PHI would package the #2 and Brand for anything less than a collection of young players and/or prospects. No, a mediocre SF on a lengthy contract and a prospect who's older and plays the same position as the guy who represented them @ the lottery isn't going to get it done. Without adding Smith or Horford, we don't have the ammo to get it done.

[HoopsGuru25]

I think the idea that all you would have to do to get Turner is take on Brand's contract is absurd and that's exactly what Chad Ford said. They might trade the pick If they aren't sold on Turner and they're going to get a really good player(such as Kevin Love or another high draft pick)back.

Philly would just trade Iguodala if they were really that desperate.

[theatlfan]

I think the idea that all you would have to do to get Turner is take on Brand's contract is absurd and that's exactly what Chad Ford said. They might trade the pick If they aren't sold on Turner and they're going to get a really good player(such as Kevin Love or another high draft pick)back.

Philly would just trade Iguodala if they were really that desperate.

I've read what he's said, and all he said was that the #2 pick was in play and the acquiring team would have to take Brand's contract. He never really put a price on that package, but I haven't seen anything that implied that the acquiring team could have the package for just pure cap space either. Honetly, it looks more like a floater that PHI would have put out there than anything to see if anyone would offer something that they could live with. I don't think they're desperate, but I do think they're looking for some cap flexibility.

BTW, it was widely rumored that PHI was shopping Iguodala hard @ the trading deadline last year and didn't get an offer that they like enough to pull the trigger. It wouldn't surprise me if he could be had for a decent offer.

[azuresou1]

LOL? 76ers are not trading us the 2nd pick for Marvin/Teague even if we take Brand, and then you want us to trade Al Horford for DeAndre Jordan? What?

Trading a 6'9" center who can't guard the bigs in this league for a 6'11" center doesn't make sense to you?


23 pts 12 rebounds against Lakers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCUEgAFHAmk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpEZ5T7 ... re=related

What, do you want me to post the Kwame highlights too? Trading a 3rd year All-Star averaging 14/10 for a project averaging 5/5 makes no sense for me.

[niffoc4]

While Deandre Jordan is taller than Horford I've never heard anyone accuse him of being able to play defense, especially not against "NBA centers."

On a different note, how many centers really give Horford problems? Dwight Howard is the main one that I can think of... and I don't think Deandre Jordan is going to step in and shut down Dwight. If he could do that he'd be starting over Kaman.

[SAUCERY_SWEET]

I was halfway with him until i noticed the Horford proposal. Just terrible.