Biggest story in the finals is the refereeing MERGE

RealTalkLAL · Post #181 » by **RealTalkLAL** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:19 am

chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

chakdaddy · Post #182 » by **chakdaddy** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:28 am

RealTalkLAL wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

So how did it bounce parallel to the backboard?

The previous play, giving Kobe 3 FTs because Ray Allen was guarding him - that almost changed the game.

CeltsfaninDC · Post #183 » by **CeltsfaninDC** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:53 am

RealTalkLAL wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

It most certainly did!
The funny thing was listening to Breen say "That shot was no where near the rim.", they show the replay.... Breen then says, "that was a bad shot" Nice job there being the impartial play by play guy once again. Can they just put him on the train to NY and get someone else for the rest of the series.

Lewis35 · Post #184 » by **Lewis35** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:33 pm

This is going 7 games guys. What you saw in the 4th quarter (BS foul on Allen when Kobe was shooting a 3) is what we are going to see all next game. If the gams is not tightly called this favors the Celtics. Obviously Sten cannot let that happen because if there is no game 7 the NBA loses a bunch of money. Next game will be tightly called. Also Bennett Salvatore is a lock to be one of the refs next game.

MasterRyu · Post #185 » by **MasterRyu** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:47 pm

Ensoul wrote:This is going 7 games guys. What you saw in the 4th quarter (BS foul on Allen when Kobe was shooting a 3) is what we are going to see all next game. If the gams is not tightly called this favors the Celtics. Obviously Sten cannot let that happen because if there is no game 7 the NBA loses a bunch of money. Next game will be tightly called. Also Bennett Salvatore is a lock to be one of the refs next game.

Actually that was certainly not a BS foul on Allen. It was the correct call. Watch the replay. Kobe went up for the shot and Allen CLEARLY had his hand on Kobe's left forearm/elbow area. I'm sorry, but that type of contact does affect shots.

As for the AIRBALL, one angle it hit the rim; in another, it didn't. It probably hit the rim since all three officials made the call for it. But the foul on the Kobe 3 was definitely much more obvious than the "near-Airball".

Lewis35 · Post #186 » by **Lewis35** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:57 pm

Ryu I disagree. What I saw was Allen jumping straight up and Kobe hit Allens hands first on the follow through.

What I am glad about however is the refs stopping falling for Fishers flops after the awful one they fell for at the start of the game. I hate how Fisher flails his legs out like he was shot every time a defender jumps toward him.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #187 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:41 pm

RealTalkLAL wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

It absolutely hit the rim...it went from going straight down to out at a 90 degree angle...I dunno what bull ****' Breen and them were talking about...the straight on footage made it VERY obvious...

chakdaddy · Post #188 » by **chakdaddy** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:50 pm

Ensoul wrote:Ryu I disagree. What I saw was Allen jumping straight up and Kobe hit Allens hands first on the follow through.

I thought what they called was the body before the shot. You could maybe argue that in the regular season, but that was lunacy in a playoff game.

Presumably they'll force a game 7; but what is the league's view about the outcome of the series overall?

I think a Celtics victory would be much better marketing wise. It sets up a mission for the Lakers next year to reclaim the title.

If the Lakers win, they probably just sleepwalk to a 3 or 4 peat and the league is boring next year. Of course, the league loved to promote its invincible Bulls/Lakers dynasties, so maybe that's what they want. But the NBA was awful at that time.

Generally speaking, the league always favors the Lakers and hates the Celtics anyway, so I'm not optimistic. Hopefully Donaghy stirs the pot and scares them straight for the last couple.

FAB0L0US · Post #189 » by **FAB0L0US** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:18 pm

chakdaddy wrote:Generally speaking, the league always favors the Lakers and hates the Celtics anyway, so I'm not optimistic. Hopefully Donaghy stirs the pot and scares them straight for the last couple.

TonyMontana · Post #190 » by **TonyMontana** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:28 pm

Lewis35 · Post #191 » by **Lewis35** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:41 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
Ensoul wrote:This is going 7 games guys. What you saw in the 4th quarter (BS foul on Allen when Kobe was shooting a 3) is what we are going to see all next game. If the gams is not tightly called this favors the Celtics. Obviously Sten cannot let that happen because if there is no game 7 the NBA loses a bunch of money. Next game will be tightly called. Also Bennett Salvatore is a lock to be one of the refs next game.

You didnt have a problem when Sterns whistles was helping your Lebron out year after year, did you?

See I dispise people like you cause guys like you LOVE TO JUMP SHIP. All through out the year your on your Cavs board talkin ish on every team including the Cs and now your on here riding their jock and pouring fuel to the fire with your garbage and posting all these nonsense.

What happened, Lebron failed YET AGAIN and your riding the green wagon until he finds his new team??

I am not a cavs fan nor have I ever posted on the cavs board so I have no idea what you're talking about. Get a clue and get your facts straight before you make yourself look like more of an ass. Thanks.

TonyMontana · Post #192 » by **TonyMontana** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:51 pm

Ensoul wrote: Thanks.

My bad, I apologize I thought you were Exile23. ill edit my post. My bad, but anyways stop crying you guys won...... :lol:

Lewis35 · Post #193 » by **Lewis35** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:57 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
Ensoul wrote: Thanks.

My bad, I apologize I thought you were Exile23. ill edit my post. My bad, but anyways stop crying you guys won......

Well gee thanks for the advice about not crying but it is not like I am going on the NBA general board and the Lakers board and posting this.

DRose4MVP · Post #194 » by **DRose4MVP** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:00 am

RealTalkLAL wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

REALLY?

Take another look. This video clearly shows the ball changing rotation after it passes the rim. 99% of the comments on the video are people saying the ball hit the rim. The other 1% are delusional Laker fans that want to place the blame on the refs, rather than their team.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF4dRipXg7I[/youtube]

DRose4MVP · Post #195 » by **DRose4MVP** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:05 am

MyInsatiableOne wrote:
RealTalkLAL wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:But then they make the right call on the Ray near-airball (boo to the announcers for replaying the least conclusive angle and saying it was an airball, when the other angles clearly showed it change direction before hitting the backboard.) Weird.

It didn't hit the rim. That right there changed the entire game.

It absolutely hit the rim...it went from going straight down to out at a 90 degree angle...I dunno what bull ****' Breen and them were talking about...the straight on footage made it VERY obvious...

Breen, Jackson, and Van Gundy are part of the NBA's agenda. They have announcing Lakers games down to a science. If you have ever noticed, they announce EVERY LAKER HOME GAME ON ABC. Jackson s's Kobe's c because he is madly in love with him, Breen tries to make it seem like the Lakers aren't getting every call but always finds a way to show his affection for the Lakers, and Van Gundy deverts everyone's attention away from what is actually going on by telling old stories from his coaching days. It is pathetic and no one enjoys listening to them besides Laker fans.

aboubata · Post #196 » by **aboubata** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:16 pm

DRose4MVP wrote:
Breen, Jackson, and Van Gundy are part of the NBA's agenda. They have announcing Lakers games down to a science. If you have ever noticed, they announce EVERY LAKER HOME GAME ON ABC. Jackson s's Kobe's c because he is madly in love with him, Breen tries to make it seem like the Lakers aren't getting every call but always finds a way to show his affection for the Lakers, and Van Gundy deverts everyone's attention away from what is actually going on by telling old stories from his coaching days. It is pathetic and no one enjoys listening to them besides Laker fans.

My favorite moment is in game 4 when the bench took the lead in the 4th quarter and one of them goes, the Lakers lost the lead.

Tommy wouldn't even say that.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #197 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:23 pm

Yup...

or they were orgasming over every Kobe shot in Q3 of G5 (some of them were amazing) while the Celtics amazing plays were "meh" (apart from Rondo's tip-in and the crazy inbounds/layup)

I AM LEGEND · Post #198 » by **I AM LEGEND** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:28 am

Okay we aren't boxing out...but when we finally DO...those linky giants on the lakers aren't being called for over the back...

The scariest part of tonight was the fact that when Boston tried to make a run from 20 down...they always went to Kobe in the post...who then would drive to the basket...do his triple clutch shot...and almost always got the foul call tonight..

The last thing we need is the best player in the game realizing he can drive whenever he wants cause the refs will bail him out..that's scary!

Besides that it was all on the C's tonight...blown layups,not rebounding, turnovers.

Celticfan_N_FL · Post #199 » by **Celticfan_N_FL** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:07 am

Interesting stat. Not counting the meaningless FT to end Game 5 the Celtics have 17 FTA over the last 7 quarters combined.

Do with that what you will.

jsimon · Post #200 » by **jsimon** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:20 am

Before anyone makes the obvious point that we played poorly tonight, I acknowledge that we played poorly tonight. But it doesn't help your cause when the Lakers are allowed to manhandle you on every possession and rebound and there are no whistles in sight, but on the other end they are getting the usual flops and touch calls every time they go near the lane.

Honestly, I've lost all respect for the NBA during these Finals. Win or lose game seven, doesn't matter. I don't believe what I'm seeing is legitimate anymore. I feel there are other forces at work besides athletes competing. Call it a conspiracy, call it the NBA wanting a game seven, call it incompetence, call it whatever you want. I feel as though what I'm watching isn't real. I try to convince myself it's not happening, I try to convince myself it's just a hard game to call, I try and I try, but I just can't shake it.

Something just isn't right.