NBA's best/worst post-up defending Cs
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Ive always suspected Frye was a good post defender
I remember him doing a number on Al Jef who usually kills us and he's been great in the post on Aldridge
I remember him doing a number on Al Jef who usually kills us and he's been great in the post on Aldridge
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I am quite surprised Frye is up there. I'm more surprised by his shooting foul % since it seems every time he gets posted up, he goes for the foul. But at only 6.5%, that certainly ranks above better post defenders like Dwight and Horford.
Quite an interesting article.
Quite an interesting article.
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Their conclusions on Tolliver are idiotic. Tolliver sucks because he was a d leaguer playing out of position, not because of anything about his team's defense. GSW simply had no centers healthy for most of Tolly's minutes.
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Horford is a good post defender but in all honesty, Josh Smith has A LOT to do with his numbers.
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#s 33 through 35 are a fascinating combo.
33. Shaq
34. Chuck "My sister's taller than me" Hayes
35. Al Jefferson
Can that possibly be right? I know Jefferson's a weak defender. But dayum.
33. Shaq
34. Chuck "My sister's taller than me" Hayes
35. Al Jefferson
Can that possibly be right? I know Jefferson's a weak defender. But dayum.
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Looks like FG% is what really matters as a determinant of points given up.
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#1 pick wrote:Horford is a good post defender but in all honesty, Josh Smith has A LOT to do with his numbers.
Smith affects Horford less than any other Hawk. He's the one player that Josh doesn't rush over to help. Horford is a really smart defender and still has upside defensively IMO.
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Love Hortford's game. Top five center.
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Somehow, I think something is wrong with the stat... a top 5 defensive C, Bogut (IMO) is simply too low, while a poor defender like Okur is too high.
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Really shocked Frye's up there.
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Well, one important factor is missing here (simply because it can not really be measured) and that's team defense and how a team defends.
For instance:
The Suns love to swarm the ball and when the opponent drops the ball into the post they usually have at least one wingplayer running in to help/double. This leaves the wing open and it's no surprise that they are 6th in 3pters allowed (link: http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/10/1/fga3/1-1)
Frye isn't a great post defender. Posters in this thread are surprised that he's this high on the OP's list, but that's simply because the Suns leave shooters open to help their bigs when they are getting posted up.
It's hard to tell who are great post up defenders by just using stats. Watching games is the only way to tell.
For instance:
The Suns love to swarm the ball and when the opponent drops the ball into the post they usually have at least one wingplayer running in to help/double. This leaves the wing open and it's no surprise that they are 6th in 3pters allowed (link: http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/10/1/fga3/1-1)
Frye isn't a great post defender. Posters in this thread are surprised that he's this high on the OP's list, but that's simply because the Suns leave shooters open to help their bigs when they are getting posted up.
It's hard to tell who are great post up defenders by just using stats. Watching games is the only way to tell.
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Portland with 3 of the top 20
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DaVoiceMaster wrote:Portland with 3 of the top 20
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Vinsanity420 wrote:Somehow, I think something is wrong with the stat... a top 5 defensive C, Bogut (IMO) is simply too low, while a poor defender like Okur is too high.
I second this. There has to be some other variable in there. In any combination of blocks, rebounds, steals, and charges drawn this season, the three recurring names are Dwight Howard, Josh Smith, and Andrew Bogut.
Obviously that doesn't affect one-on-one field goal percentage, but like the Bucks don't have a really good post-defending PF (well, an out-of-position Mbah a Moute), but the Jazz at least have Boozer and Millsap to take up space and take pressure off of Okur.
It is an interesting article, though.
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