Iggy for the 4th pick, Cap Space

[eitanr]

Look, everyone is trying to find a way to make these Elton Brand deals happen. They will not happen. Instead a better route maybe to get Philly pure cap relief to ease some of that luxury tax pain. The Sixers have Evan Turner available at 2. Thad Young is also embedded as a starter as well, most likely at the 3 position. So I will ask the obvious question, will they really need Iggy?

I think if Philly can land both Turner and Cousins in the draft and feature a nice energetic young team with some more flexibility come 2011, wouldn't that be a nice route for them? Also Cousins would allow Dally to simply walk at season's end without Philly feeling they need a replacement badly.

PF M. Speights/ E. Brand
SF T. Young/ R. Carney/ J. Kapono
C D. Cousins/ S. Dalembert/ J. Smith
SG E. Turner/ W. Green
PG J. Holiday/ L. Williams

For Minny, it seems they may go with Wes Johnson at 4. Why not get a legit all around great player instead for that pick, that plays the same slot, and is only 25 in Iggy? Also, Minny fans will snarl at the contract of Andre (Shrink, I am looking at you). But I don't think Rudy Gay is coming to the Timberwolves. Think about it. Even if the Bulls, Knicks and Heat all take the big names in free agency (James, Wade, Bosh, Boozer, Stoudemire, Joe Johnson) that still leaves the Clippers and Nets as players for a then available Rudy Gay. I just can't see Minny breaking the bank yet for Gay when his cost may end up being more than that Iggy deal. Minny here gets a major step closer, gets someone who will be under contract for them for years to come and further solidifies a solid roster for the future.

PF A. Jefferson/ K. Love
SF P. George/ R. Gomes
C D. Milicic/ R. Hollins
SG A. Igoudala/ C. Brewer/ W. Ellington
PG J. Flynn/ R. Sessions (R. Rubio)

[BringBackKorver]

That's too much to give up for Iguodala IMO. We at least need to take back unwanted contracts, but the problem is that Minnesota is reasonably responsible and doesn't have any bad ones (some may consider Jefferson a bad deal but I think it's reasonable).

[KiDdFrESh]

I think its a great idea. Minny doesn't need to get any younger than they already are.

[shrink]

Iggy is not worth much more than his contract. As Philly fans will tell you, he's a talented player that can't be a team's #1 guy, nor should he be paid as such.

Raw cap space is more valuable right now than at any time I can remember since I started following NBA economics. I would not give up raw cap space to add Iguodala's contract to my rebuilding team, and I especially would not include the #4.

[CDM88]

I agree this is a 4 player draft ..u dont want to trade one of those picks unless its for a franchise player.

[DBreezy11]

Look, everyone is trying to find a way to make these Elton Brand deals happen. They will not happen. Instead a better route maybe to get Philly pure cap relief to ease some of that luxury tax pain. The Sixers have Evan Turner available at 2. Thad Young is also embedded as a starter as well, most likely at the 3 position. So I will ask the obvious question, will they really need Iggy?

I think if Philly can land both Turner and Cousins in the draft and feature a nice energetic young team with some more flexibility come 2011, wouldn't that be a nice route for them? Also Cousins would allow Dally to simply walk at season's end without Philly feeling they need a replacement badly.

PF M. Speights/ E. Brand
SF T. Young/ R. Carney/ J. Kapono
C D. Cousins/ S. Dalembert/ J. Smith
SG E. Turner/ W. Green
PG J. Holiday/ L. Williams

For Minny, it seems they may go with Wes Johnson at 4. Why not get a legit all around great player instead for that pick, that plays the same slot, and is only 25 in Iggy? Also, Minny fans will snarl at the contract of Andre (Shrink, I am looking at you). But I don't think Rudy Gay is coming to the Timberwolves. Think about it. Even if the Bulls, Knicks and Heat all take the big names in free agency (James, Wade, Bosh, Boozer, Stoudemire, Joe Johnson) that still leaves the Clippers and Nets as players for a then available Rudy Gay. I just can't see Minny breaking the bank yet for Gay when his cost may end up being more than that Iggy deal. Minny here gets a major step closer, gets someone who will be under contract for them for years to come and further solidifies a solid roster for the future.

PF A. Jefferson/ K. Love
SF P. George/ R. Gomes
C D. Milicic/ R. Hollins
SG A. Igoudala/ C. Brewer/ W. Ellington
PG J. Flynn/ R. Sessions (R. Rubio)

Thad is FAR from being embedded as the starting 3. The starting 3 will be Iggy. And he might be worth a #4 pick but his contract and lack of #1 player potential lowers his value

[eitanr]

What if the Sixers threw in Thad Young and got Gomes in addition in return?

[[RCG]]

Wow. No.

Taking on Iggy for the #4 eliminates the possibility of getting a franchise/#1-type player while reducing the Wolves financial flexibility to zero...why? so the sixers can unload Iguodola because Turner is a younger, cheaper option who does the same thing AND pick up the #4?

[sixerswillrule]

I agree this is a 4 player draft ..u dont want to trade one of those picks unless its for a franchise player.

But word is that Minny isn't even drafting Cousins.

[shrink]

I agree this is a 4 player draft ..u dont want to trade one of those picks unless its for a franchise player.

But word is that Minny isn't even drafting Cousins.

Just an FYI .. that was the opinion of Cousins AGENT. Kahn has said that's not the case, and is trying to change the agent's mind. This is from the local MSP beat-writer:

Cousins' agent balked at sending his client here because the Wolves frontcourt already is filled with young bigs. There was a bit of a media to-do on Monday over that decision, but such decisions happen like this every year at this time. On Monday, the guy isn't coming in. By the weekend, he shows.

That doesn't guarantee Cousins will change his mind, but Kahn said Cousins' agent has been made aware the team's roster might not look the same next Thursday night as it does today. Kahn said the agent has been "counting bodies" on a team that now includes Al Jefferson, Kevin Love and could include Darko Milicic and Nikola Pekovic once the free agency period commences in July.

Kahn called the team's situation "fluid."

Translated that means expect either Jefferson or Love to be traded in the coming days, the fourth of five "windows of opportunity" to remake the team in a 17-month period as Kahn called them when he was hired in May 2009.

[Trader_Joe]

TPE + Mid 1st round pick seem right for Iggy
Expirers + #7 - #11 seems fair as well.

[corwin]

There's also plenty of people who consider this a 2 player draft with Favors looking like a possible 3rd player.

[CDM88]

There's also plenty of people who consider this a 2 player draft with Favors looking like a possible 3rd player.

I personally would say theres 4 franchise players in this draft

Wall
Turner
Favors
Cousisns

[[RCG]]

There's also plenty of people who consider this a 2 player draft with Favors looking like a possible 3rd player.

It doesn't matter what those people think, it only matters what the GMs think and I doubt Kahn has said he might try to move up, I doubt he does this, especially when he has done an admirable job of shedding salary

[celtics_suck]

This is a 2-player draft..PERIOD!! Anyone putting Favors or Cousins in the same catigory as Turner or Wall are off their rocker! And Minny may not want Iggy's salary outright without removing some salary, but Iggy is a 26 year old multi-talented player. No one with a IQ above 50 would ever try to say that Wes Johnson is anything close to Iggy. If a team who is under the cap right now feels they can't sign a Marquee free agent, then maybe they might take Jefferson in a deal, Iggy to Minny, and the 4th to Philly. That way Minny has a pure open position for Love, and a better talent in Iggy then they will ever have in the draft. A team with Cap space gets a PF who can get stats, and is still young. And Philly would get # 4. But to say the 4th pick in THIS draft is more valuable than Iggy is just plain stupid!!

[youngcrev]

This is they type of return it would take for the Sixers to move Iguodala IMO. It may be higher than his perceived value, but the team doesn't have interest in moving him, so it would take a lot.

If I'm the T'Wolves I think I'd just draft Wes Johnson or Cousins and go after someone in FA.

[Bentley1225]

What about for #16 and #23?

[youngcrev]

What about for #16 and #23?

Absolutely not from Philly

[corwin]

I've never been high on this draft. I agree with celtics_suck that it looks like a 2 player draft with a range of other prospects. Some could be very good but others are a crap shoot. Wes Johnson is a perfect example. The guy could go 4th or 5th but no one has any idea of he can play a lick of defense since he played in that Syracuse zone last year. I'm sure he can shoot & his pre-draft measurements were reportedly pretty good, but one skill does not a star or even a starter make.

[Bentley1225]

What about for #16 and #23?

Absolutely not from Philly

Ok, what about this 3 way then?

To Minnesota
-Iguodala
-Kirlenko

To Utah
-Al Jefferson

To Philly
-#9
-#23