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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#201 » by Bulls69 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:37 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:Eh, nothing really to dislike. It's typical idiotic "New York speak". It really has no basis other than to say "everyone wants to play here". Heck if that were actually true, they would have had some darned good teams in that last 30 yrs.


Come on Outlaw, all the stars wants to play in the NYC like Kobe, Bron, MJ, and etc etc the Knicks posters are so funny.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#202 » by CP4LBJNYC » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:32 am

I know you hate to hear this, but LBJ is coming to NYC and he is bringing his boy Bosh with him. Dolan is going to give LBJ his own TV show and LBJ is going to make major coin in NYC with other special deals. LBJ wants to be the first Billionaire athlete and NYC can make him that. NYC is the only team that can bring in Bosh as well as LBJ.

Just saw this on a Knicks blog.
http://www.free-press-release.com/news- ... 60521.html

NYC company is giving away free service to folks in Akron. They are also giving it away to Cleveland residents because they want no hard feelings when LBJ signs with the Knicks!

Sorry Cavs Fans. It doesn't look good for you guys, but hey, you've had a great run.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#203 » by TheOUTLAW » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:02 am

I'm almost positive that giving LeBron a show would on the Knicks cable station would be considered circumventing the cap. But what makes you think that LeBron even wants a show? There really is nothing that you've said other than the normal NYC self important rhetoric.

LeBron wants to win a championship which is against NY
LeBron wants to be viewed as loyal which is against NY
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#204 » by gflem » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:26 am

CP4LBJNYC wrote:I know you hate to hear this, but LBJ is coming to NYC and he is bringing his boy Bosh with him. Dolan is going to give LBJ his own TV show and LBJ is going to make major coin in NYC with other special deals. LBJ wants to be the first Billionaire athlete and NYC can make him that. NYC is the only team that can bring in Bosh as well as LBJ.

Just saw this on a Knicks blog.
http://www.free-press-release.com/news- ... 60521.html

NYC company is giving away free service to folks in Akron. They are also giving it away to Cleveland residents because they want no hard feelings when LBJ signs with the Knicks!

Sorry Cavs Fans. It doesn't look good for you guys, but hey, you've had a great run.


Great first post. I hope it was worth the effort to sign up and all. Oh, btw you might just want to hide all the sharp objects come July 1st. And take down your shower rod as well. We here are prepared for whatever happens, but you seem to be so sure Lebron is going there I think you might take it a little too hard if he doesnt. Dont take this personally, I am just looking out for your personal welfare.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#205 » by Jordan45822 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:48 am

http://lebron-james-watch.si.com/2010/0 ... d=FanHouse

Oakley warns Lebron to stay away from New York
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#206 » by monopoman » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:42 am

ropjhk wrote:The conspiracy theorist in me thinks he's going to re-up with the Cavs, and here's why:

It seems that Lebron values fame and wealth over winning. I know that makes it look like he'll sign with the Knicks, but there's another component.

In sports, fame and wealth are by products of winning, and to a smaller extent loyalty. Lebron probably knows that the chances of him winning a ring any time soon in NY are slim even if they get Bosh. He needs to capitalize on all the attention being placed on him now and win a ring as soon as next season and his best chance is with Cleveland.

So why didn't he just win this year? Maybe he and the Cavs really weren't good enough, but here's my conspiracy theory: He lost on purpose.

Wait a moment... am I contradicting myself? I said earlier that winning leads to more fame, and with Lebron's emphasis on fame, wouldn't he want to win this year? Maybe Lebron and "his team" planned on losing all along so that he would have an expectation that he would go on his free agency tour. Lebron is going to go to at least four different major cities this summer and sell alot of merchandise related to the hope that he may sign with another team. If he went on such a tour after winning the championship this year, people would question his loyalty (more than they do now). The free agency tour is something his "team" has been planning for a long time and I expect it to be the craziest summer marketing tour in the history of the NBA.

When all is said an done, Lebron will return to Cleveland and sign a new contract. He'll expect to be praised for his loyalty in the face of alluring temptations to sign elsewhere. Then he'll do his best to win a championship (and no mysterious injuries) with the Cavs and begin to build up his reputation as a winner.

So that's my theory. I know it's crazy, but it's fun to come up with this stuff. If this summer turns into an all out Lebron marketing blitz and he resigns with the Cavs in the end and wins a championship next season, then maybe my theory will actually have merit. I don't think my theory will make fans of any team particularly happy, and maybe that makes it credible.


You sound like the anti-government conspiracy theorists dude. Maybe LBJ is really an alien and he will use this tour to overtake many high powered execs in each franchise and replace them with alien clones.

This will give LBJ and his alien overlords one more step towards his plan of ruling the world! I mean he plays like no human I've ever seen coincidence?!!? I think not!
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#207 » by Icness » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:24 am

Man this thread has taken some interesting twists and turns.

I've said it before, I'll say it again:
Anyone other than Lebron who says they know anything about what he's going to do is lying, period. The world will be a much happier place if all those making such claims would shut the heck up.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#208 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:26 am

True but...

Coach is fired.

GM resigns

IZZO stays put..

Both Centers are Free Agents, Shaq is likely to leave.

Not good signs. God forbid if the Delonte rumors are true.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#209 » by TheOUTLAW » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:18 pm

The Cavs actually got very little from either center last year
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#210 » by tidho » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:52 pm

RHODEY wrote:True but...

Coach is fired.

GM resigns

IZZO stays put..

Both Centers are Free Agents, Shaq is likely to leave.

Not good signs. God forbid if the Delonte rumors are true.


What about it?

The coach deserved to be fired just for the matchups he missed in the playoffs.

I'm sorry to see Ferry go, but that was more about Gilbert than LeBron and the team made a completely seemless transition.

Izzo dissapoint is more because Gilbert wanted him so badly than missing out on him being the coach.

Both Centers were free agents for about a year, lol, why is that bad now? Shaq is likely to stay if LeBron resigns, and to go if he doesn't - which is exactly what we'd want to happen in each case.

Delonte's contract makes him a very valuable trade chip. Its highly unlikely he would still be here with or without the off court rumors.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#211 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:40 pm

tidho wrote:
RHODEY wrote:True but...

Coach is fired.

GM resigns

IZZO stays put..

Both Centers are Free Agents, Shaq is likely to leave.

Not good signs. God forbid if the Delonte rumors are true.


What about it?

The coach deserved to be fired just for the matchups he missed in the playoffs.

I'm sorry to see Ferry go, but that was more about Gilbert than LeBron and the team made a completely seemless transition.

Izzo dissapoint is more because Gilbert wanted him so badly than missing out on him being the coach.

Both Centers were free agents for about a year, lol, why is that bad now? Shaq is likely to stay if LeBron resigns, and to go if he doesn't - which is exactly what we'd want to happen in each case.

Delonte's contract makes him a very valuable trade chip. Its highly unlikely he would still be here with or without the off court rumors.


and now this:

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... nt_office/
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#212 » by gflem » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:13 pm

Again, as has been reported the Cavs are looking into trades and acquiring draft choices. Lebron is under no obligation to speak with the FO. Lebron and the Cavs know how much and for how long of a contract they can offer. It is up to Lebron and his agent/team to decide the terms that best fit for him/them. Or the team that fits best for him/them.
Are the Cavs supposed to be begging Lebron to stay? That would be foolish. They are going about their business regardless of his decision.
Now, I have held firm on the FO not being in a state of chaos and have debated a few posters about that point, but now with Izzo staying at MSU, it looks like Gilbert has put the team into a spot where they look like they will have to scramble for a coach. But in looking at the facts, what coach is going to commit to this team without knowing Lebron's decision.
That would be like buying a house and not knowing if it comes with a roof and walls or not. Only an assistant looking for a chance or a relatively unknown college coach (ala Tim Floyd a few years back) would jump at this job as is.
So, while Lebron isnt making the decision as to who the Cavs hire, his decision or lack thereof is dictation the terms of the Cavs coaching search. This shouldnt necessarily put the FO in a bad light, but some will see this as chaos or desperation anyways without regard of the situation that Lebron has ultimately (not purposefully) caused.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#213 » by tidho » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:40 pm


Why would he be in communicaton with the front office?

He's said he isn't going to be involved in swaying decisions right now because he's not sure of what he's going to do. Given that there's no longer reason to artificially keep up appearances that he may stay in Cleveland (that ended with the playoffs), it seems reasonable that what he's been saying for weeks is true - he's going to be a free agent and he hasn't decided what he wants to do yet.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#214 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:03 pm

tidho wrote:

Why would he be in communicaton with the front office?

He's said he isn't going to be involved in swaying decisions right now because he's not sure of what he's going to do. Given that there's no longer reason to artificially keep up appearances that he may stay in Cleveland (that ended with the playoffs), it seems reasonable that what he's been saying for weeks is true - he's going to be a free agent and he hasn't decided what he wants to do yet.


Well what do you think the chances are that he decides to stay?
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#215 » by TheOUTLAW » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:06 pm

Better than 50%.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#216 » by tidho » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:41 pm

I think he'll sign for another 3 years, or a longer deal with a player option after 3.

If he wants to win New York isn't the answer.
If he wants to play with the ball in his hands Chicago isn't the answer.

I think he saves a little face with 3 more years and he'd still only be 28/29 if he left then. A new coach can do wonders with the current roster and there is just enough flexibility to make it even better than last year.

...but who knows?
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#217 » by gflem » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:17 pm

Cant say for sure what he will do, but if he were to re-up for three years with player options he will have spent a decade here. Nobody could say after 10 years that he wasnt loyal to the team and area if he doesnt win a title by then.
With player options he can get the max for the most amount of time and, if after the first three years he isnt happy he can demand a trade or opt out. Either way he chooses where he ends up. This would seem to be a good option unless he has already made up his mind. But, up to this point he and his camp say they dont really know where he will end up.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#218 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:17 pm

tidho wrote:I think he'll sign for another 3 years, or a longer deal with a player option after 3.

If he wants to win New York isn't the answer.
If he wants to play with the ball in his hands Chicago isn't the answer.

I think he saves a little face with 3 more years and he'd still only be 28/29 if he left then. A new coach can do wonders with the current roster and there is just enough flexibility to make it even better than last year.

...but who knows?


Hmmm well good luck with that.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#219 » by panthermark » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:25 pm

tidho wrote:I think he'll sign for another 3 years, or a longer deal with a player option after 3.

If he wants to win New York isn't the answer.
If he wants to play with the ball in his hands Chicago isn't the answer.

I think he saves a little face with 3 more years and he'd still only be 28/29 if he left then. A new coach can do wonders with the current roster and there is just enough flexibility to make it even better than last year.

...but who knows?


That isn't really a good reason to not go to Chicago...that is actually worse than the dreaded shadow of MJ.

Lack of outside shooting, or lack having two SF's and no PF would make more sense.
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Re: LeBron Free Agency 2010 

Post#220 » by JustAwesome » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:47 am

At this stage in his career, James might be looking for a big long term deal. I can't see him signing a 3 year deal.

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