Dalambert trade to Kings--effect on Jazz?

HolyToledo · Post #1 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:02 pm

Dalambert traded to the Kings for Niconi and Hawes. It gives the Sixers an overload at the SF and Wing positions, especially if they are going to draft Turner. Could this trade encourage the sixers to trade for AK-47 (as a PF) by sending either Iggy or Nicioni/(draft pick-Turner) to the Jazz? The Jazz would have to throw them the 9th pick at the very least as well.

As for the Trade itself, seems like a great deal for the Kings as they get a defensive center with only one year left on his contract in exchange for Nicioni (bad contract-chucker-malcontent) and Hawes (malcontent-short center).

carrottop12 · Post #2 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:31 pm

Dalembert sucks.

Though I don't understand why the Sixers wanted to take back Nocioni with AI and most likely Turner coming in the draft.

gonzo · Post #3 » by **gonzo** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:53 pm

Does it give the Turner + Brand for (exp?) + Cousins/Aldrich scenario some wheels? They need a center more than a wing. I'm surprised you're not all over this one, Bat. Maybe gives your "watch the philly pick" thread a new look.

CAE15 · Post #4 » by **CAE15** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:44 am

Am i the only one who thinks it makes it more likely that the kings are the ones who make a move and not the sixers? Dally,thompson,landry. They could afford to move down and still get a big(if they wanted one) and acquire some other assets.

carrottop12 · Post #5 » by **carrottop12** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:17 am

I'm not really sure what this trade means. Draftexpress is reporting that this trade has been in the works since January. So maybe the teams did want to wait until they got some work outs under their belt to see if they could make a clear cut decision on who they wanted to draft.

Maybe the Kings don't love anyone at 5 and are ready to move back in the draft to get a win player to replace K-Mart and to go along side Reke, or maybe they really like someone like Whiteside and think they can move back and get him.

:dontknow:

QuantumMacgyver · Post #6 » by **QuantumMacgyver** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:27 am

I don't get where this "chucker" status comes from. Nocioni has career averages of 11.3 ppg, shooting at .433%. That's actually not bad at all. It's not great, but it definitely doesn't qualify him as a "chucker".

HolyToledo · Post #7 » by **HolyToledo** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:37 pm

Nocioni can be right fit for a run and gun system like the Suns, but in structured offense like the Jazz, Nocioni would help the outside shooting but break away from the offense so much that Sloan could bench him.

David Ginola 14 · Post #8 » by **David Ginola 14** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:36 pm

I think that this trade is good for one reason...
Kings will select Monroe...
Maybe we can select Aldrich...

Post #9 » by **loserX** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:56 pm

HolyToledo wrote:Dalambert traded to the Kings for Niconi and Hawes. It gives the Sixers an overload at the SF and Wing positions, especially if they are going to draft Turner. Could this trade encourage the sixers to trade for AK-47 (as a PF) by sending either Iggy or Nicioni/(draft pick-Turner) to the Jazz? The Jazz would have to throw them the 9th pick at the very least as well.

The Sixers have Elton Brand at PF, this trade doesn't change that. If they want Kirilenko it would purely be to get out of contracts. Kirilenko and the #9 for Iggy has some logic but I suspect the Jazz just keep the cheaper player (the #9).

HolyToledo wrote:As for the Trade itself, seems like a great deal for the Kings as they get a defensive center with only one year left on his contract in exchange for Nicioni (bad contract-chucker-malcontent) and Hawes (malcontent-short center).

Dalembert himself is more of a malcontent than Hawes ever was. That said I think both sides got what they wanted.

Jazzfan12 · Post #10 » by **Jazzfan12** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:56 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:I don't get where this "chucker" status comes from. Nocioni has career averages of 11.3 ppg, shooting at .433%. That's actually not bad at all. It's not great, but it definitely doesn't qualify him as a "chucker".

True shooting percentage of 50% and a usage above 20%. Most stars players have similar usage to him, but have a true shooting percentage that's seven points higher.