'Short' time till the Draft

[Ripcity4life]

I looked at the Denver thing too and all i got out of it was a headache going through the pages. The only things i saw about Portland out of the Radio forum and the Minn GM forum was the following drivel ...

1) Maybe Roy is the BIG name cause according to some stupid MInn fan thinks the Blazers want to Blow things up since Oden was a bust and KP being fired soon.

2) Oden to Minn

3) Pritchard to have a job with the Wolves once fired i think only a line or 2 on it.

BUT not once did i see Melo to Portland

[GEE]

Here we go. KP Prichslaps the whole league

Trade 1:
PHI out: Brand + Iggy
PHI in: Pryzbilla + Aldridge + Freeland rights + #22

(PHI rebuilds around Aldridge+Turner. I don't think this is legal due to BYC status though..)

Trade 2:
CHI out: #17 + Hinrich
CHI in: Rudy + Miller + #44 + Claver/Koponen rights

(CHI cuts costs at the PG position with 1 year left on Millers deal and gets a coveted wing guard)

Trade 3:
TOR out: Bosh + Hedo
TOR in: Brand + Webster + Cunningham + #17 + POR's 2011 1st

(TOR knows they are losing Bosh. Perhaps they dislike Brands contract but they see a fit next to Bargnani and breath a sigh of relief over moving Hedo)

Final POR roster:
Hinrich - Bayless
Roy - Iggy
Batum - Hedo
Bosh - Pendergraph
Oden - Camby

BRAVO!!!



If Paul Allen wants to spend some money, this would be a creative way to do it. A championship may be the return. Multiple upgrades in this set of trades. This line-up would get it done in the west. Only thing I'd change is Bayless starting over Hinrich. Hope KP can get a big deal done.

[Fitz303]

I'd take Melo on this team in a heartbeat. Melo has seemed to have grown up, and is a monster of a player. There are only 2 SFs in the league better than him right now (LBJ and Durant), and hes only 25 years old.

I love Batum, and would absolutely hate to lose him. I will root for him wherever he goes, if he ever leaves Portland. But if there is a chance to get Melo, or Paul, I would reluctantly say goodbye, and good luck.

[jeffhardyfan52]

mellos a punk i could never cheer for him

[hondaaccord]

Melo would be the best player on this team by far. I would trade Roy for Melo in an instant.

[farzi]

mellos a punk i could never cheer for him

Guarantee if he became a Blazer and made a couple of game winners you wouldn't have such a tough time then

[jeffhardyfan52]

mellos a punk i could never cheer for him

Guarantee if he became a Blazer and made a couple of game winners you wouldn't have such a tough time then

Not true
Hes a punk i want nothing to do with him or his aresst recored

[Ripcity4life]

I get so tired of reading i would not cheer for so and so if he became a blazer ... BS

If Kobe became a Blazer i would guess most fans would embrace him cause besides his one REALLY REALLY bad judgement call and being a Laker there is no reason NOT to dislike Kobe.. and that pains me to say it

Same goes for Melo he has made a mistake but nothing real serious if i recall.

I realize we do not want thugs on the Blazers but name me the last team that WON a championship that did not have at least ONE payer will some kind of baggage. As long as you have a good core a team can usually handle a disruptive player within reason of course.

Getting back on topic of Trades .... Blazers might make a big splash but i highly doubt Melo is coming not because of the source of rumor ( sucks ) but fact NO WAY would the Nuggets trade him to division rival.

[EGame]

If Melo was on the team and helping us win a championship everyone would be cheering for him. Everyone...

[jeffhardyfan52]

I get so tired of reading i would not cheer for so and so if he became a blazer ... BS

If Kobe became a Blazer i would guess most fans would embrace him cause besides his one REALLY REALLY bad judgement call and being a Laker there is no reason NOT to dislike Kobe.. and that pains me to say it

Same goes for Melo he has made a mistake but nothing real serious if i recall.

I realize we do not want thugs on the Blazers but name me the last team that WON a championship that did not have at least ONE payer will some kind of baggage. As long as you have a good core a team can usually handle a disruptive player within reason of course.

Getting back on topic of Trades .... Blazers might make a big splash but i highly doubt Melo is coming not because of the source of rumor ( sucks ) but fact NO WAY would the Nuggets trade him to division rival.

Melo got a DUI whitch i find very serioues i could never cheer for a peace of trash like that
and kobe stands for what portlands agaisnt
i cant stand either of those guys and would not cheer either of them in a blazer jersey

[Village Idiot]

Chris Bosh would be amazing!

Atlanta trades:

Josh Smith $11,700,000

Atlanta receives:

LaMarcus Aldridge $10,744,000

I think Aldridge would be a better fit next to Horford than Smith.

Portland trades:

LaMarcus Aldridge - incoming salary value of $5,844,000
Joel Przybilla $ 7,405,000
Rudy Fernandez $ 1,246,680
$3 million
2011 1st top 3 protected
Rights to Joel Freeland

we can take back up to $18,221,009 in incoming salary

Portland receives:

Chris Bosh $17,149,000

We get an upgrade at PF in that he's much better at dribbling and drawing fouls than Aldridge.

Toronto trades:

Chris Bosh $17,149,000

Toronto can take back $21,536,250 in salaries

Toronto receives:

Josh Smith $11,700,000
Joel Przybilla $ 7,405,000
Rudy Fernandez $ 1,246,680
$3 million
2011 1st top 3 protected from Portland
Rights to Joel Freeland

incoming salaries of $20,351,980

Toronto gets a marketable player in Smith who fits better there than Aldridge. If Przybilla's injured all season he only costs them $1.5 million. If healthy he gives them a long needed inside presence on defense.

[DaVoiceMaster]

I could never cheer for Kobe, period!

[TBpup]

Atlanta receives:
LaMarcus Aldridge $10,744,000

Portland trades:
LaMarcus Aldridge - incoming salary value of $5,844,000
Joel Przybilla $ 7,405,000

Village Idiot...I see you made the adjustment for Lamarcus being a BYC1 player after July 1. Thank you! A number of people have just thrown his name out there as a trade piece without consideration of the cap. Until July 1, he has a 'Poison Pill' contract which makes him almost untradeable. After July 1, you can't trade him $$ for $$ because of his status. Good job.

That said, Joel can not be thrown into a trade yet either. While it is a formality, he has a player option and has to excersice that before he is a tradeable piece. No one doubts he will but he can't be included before that declaration. The rumor was that this could potentially be done before the draft but I don't see how unless it is just an 'agreed to in principal' trade.

It's not for lack of effort, but we may have to wait longer than earlier indicated to see if it can be pulled off.

[Billy]

Thanks for the info TBPup. Hopefully it won't have to be too much longer, but you never know with these kinds of things obviously.

[Walton'sBeard!]

Thanks for the info TBPup. Hopefully it won't have to be too much longer, but you never know with these kinds of things obviously.

I'd say that if KP is fired before any deal happens then the rumored deal is dead. It looks like KP could be fired any time. I doubt we have to wait very long for this to work itself out.

[TBpup]

If the Blazers don't hold a Draft Party, are there people interested in getting together at a Sports Bar somewhere?

[cucad8]

Melo got a DUI whitch i find very serioues i could never cheer for a peace of trash like that

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 895,380484

Yet you were considering getting a Juwan Howard jersey. He avoided officially getting a DUI by entering alcohol rehabilitation. People change. Juwan Howard was sometimes called a punk as well.

[Wizenheimer]

Here we go. KP Prichslaps the whole league

that whole "pritchslap" lexicon is misguided. For one thing, it's spread around further then just the internet and it may be one reason why KP has had difficulty making deals and why other GM's reportedly think KP is arrogant.

Besides, his "lopsided" deals all occurred in the 2006 draft, and they weren't as lopsided, (at least not two of them weren't) as they seemed at the time

Trade 1:
PHI out: Brand + Iggy
PHI in: Pryzbilla + Aldridge + Freeland rights + #22

(PHI rebuilds around Aldridge+Turner. I don't think this is legal due to BYC status though..)

it's not even legal if BYC is ignored. Trading 18 million in salary for over 28 million can't be done without cap-space or a massive TPE

Trade 2:
CHI out: #17 + Hinrich
CHI in: Rudy + Miller + #44 + Claver/Koponen rights

(CHI cuts costs at the PG position with 1 year left on Millers deal and gets a coveted wing guard)

I'd much rather have Miller then Hinrich. Hinrich is a step above Steve Blake defensively, but isn't any better offensively. I'd even give the edge to Blake. And I'm fine with Blake not being on the team

Trade 3:
TOR out: Bosh + Hedo
TOR in: Brand + Webster + Cunningham + #17 + POR's 2011 1st

(TOR knows they are losing Bosh. Perhaps they dislike Brands contract but they see a fit next to Bargnani and breath a sigh of relief over moving Hedo)

Final POR roster:
Hinrich - Bayless
Roy - Iggy
Batum - Hedo
Bosh - Pendergraph
Oden - Camby

let's look at your roster another way:

Hinrich: 9,500,000 - 9,000,000 - 8,000,000....26.5 nillion
Bayless: 2,292,600 - 3,042,280....5.33 million
Roy: 13,150,037 - 14,530,791 - 15,911,545 - 17,292,299 - 18,673,053.....80 million
Iggy: 12,345,250 - 13,531,750 - 14,718,250 - 15,904,750....56.5 million
Batum: 1,196,760 - 2,155,365....3.43 million
Hedo: 9,800,000 - 10,600,000 - 11,400,000 - 12,000,000....43.8 million
Bosh:16,000,0000-17,680,000-19,360,000-21,040,000-22,720,000-24,400,000...121million
Pendergraph: 880,000
Oden: 6,760,524 - 8,788,681....15.5 million
Camby: 10,663,250 - 11,676,500 ....23.34 million

then, the roster has to be filled out, and with the questionable nature of Blazer knees and shoulders, those bench players need to be a bit more then scrubs

so, add another 4 million in salary, minimum, for the remaining 5 slots

That puts Portland at around 88 million in salary next season, which would be about 20 million over the cap

And it doesn't get any better the following season...it gets much worse. The Blazers would be around 97 million in team salary, which would be about 30 million over the cap. And that's the cap under this CBA. That 30 million would be applied to the rules governing the new cap and it's likely to be even more punitive then the current one

And all this doesn't account for having to extend the contracts of Oden and Batum

if Paul Allen wasn't on his death bed yet, that team payroll would probably put him there

[crandnew]

Here we go. KP Prichslaps the whole league

that whole "pritchslap" lexicon is misguided. For one thing, it's spread around further then just the internet and it may be one reason why KP has had difficulty making deals and why other GM's reportedly think KP is arrogant.

Besides, his "lopsided" deals all occurred in the 2006 draft, and they weren't as lopsided, (at least not two of them weren't) as they seemed at the time

Trade 1:
PHI out: Brand + Iggy
PHI in: Pryzbilla + Aldridge + Freeland rights + #22

(PHI rebuilds around Aldridge+Turner. I don't think this is legal due to BYC status though..)

it's not even legal if BYC is ignored. Trading 18 million in salary for over 28 million can't be done without cap-space or a massive TPE

Trade 2:
CHI out: #17 + Hinrich
CHI in: Rudy + Miller + #44 + Claver/Koponen rights

(CHI cuts costs at the PG position with 1 year left on Millers deal and gets a coveted wing guard)

I'd much rather have Miller then Hinrich. Hinrich is a step above Steve Blake defensively, but isn't any better offensively. I'd even give the edge to Blake. And I'm fine with Blake not being on the team

Trade 3:
TOR out: Bosh + Hedo
TOR in: Brand + Webster + Cunningham + #17 + POR's 2011 1st

(TOR knows they are losing Bosh. Perhaps they dislike Brands contract but they see a fit next to Bargnani and breath a sigh of relief over moving Hedo)

Final POR roster:
Hinrich - Bayless
Roy - Iggy
Batum - Hedo
Bosh - Pendergraph
Oden - Camby

let's look at your roster another way:

Hinrich: 9,500,000 - 9,000,000 - 8,000,000....26.5 nillion
Bayless: 2,292,600 - 3,042,280....5.33 million
Roy: 13,150,037 - 14,530,791 - 15,911,545 - 17,292,299 - 18,673,053.....80 million
Iggy: 12,345,250 - 13,531,750 - 14,718,250 - 15,904,750....56.5 million
Batum: 1,196,760 - 2,155,365....3.43 million
Hedo: 9,800,000 - 10,600,000 - 11,400,000 - 12,000,000....43.8 million
Bosh:16,000,0000-17,680,000-19,360,000-21,040,000-22,720,000-24,400,000...121million
Pendergraph: 880,000
Oden: 6,760,524 - 8,788,681....15.5 million
Camby: 10,663,250 - 11,676,500 ....23.34 million

then, the roster has to be filled out, and with the questionable nature of Blazer knees and shoulders, those bench players need to be a bit more then scrubs

so, add another 4 million in salary, minimum, for the remaining 5 slots

That puts Portland at around 88 million in salary next season, which would be about 20 million over the cap

And it doesn't get any better the following season...it gets much worse. The Blazers would be around 97 million in team salary, which would be about 30 million over the cap. And that's the cap under this CBA. That 30 million would be applied to the rules governing the new cap and it's likely to be even more punitive then the current one

And all this doesn't account for having to extend the contracts of Oden and Batum

if Paul Allen wasn't on his death bed yet, that team payroll would probably put him there

That and the small fact we have an all star playing backup shooting guard.

[Jsun947]

I'd still really like to get together for a draft party. It's been fun the last couple of years. I have some family and friends that might want to go though that aren't quite 21 if we can hold it some place like buffalo wild wings