Question to Wiz fans about Randy Foye

[LakersMoscow]

I haven't seen a lot of Randy Foye. Obviously Lakers need a point guard who can take over the PG position from Fish(at least split minutes with him).
I think Foye is what we need.
Is Randy a good defender? Does he have a potential to be a good defender?What about his basketball IQ?
All I know he can shoot 3 and his PG skills(passing) are limited(doesn't matter in the triangle anyway).

[keynote]

Hmm. Foye actually might be a good replacement. He's not nearly as physical a defender as Fisher - but neither was Fisher, early on in his career. Rick Fox wasn't a physical defender at the SF slot in his Boston days, either, but he became a fairly physical guy in LA. Phil and his staff seem to be able to instill the importance of physical perimeter defense. In any event, Foye appears to have the strength and heft to pull it off.

His basketball IQ is eh. He's not a great decision-maker. But, as you said, he might find new life in the structure of the triangle. He's shown some semblance of mental toughness, seeing as he played the role of "4Q closer" for MIN. Granted, they didn't win many games, but he has the potential to be clutch under the right circumstances. Although, his performance was all over the place last year in DC, so who knows where his confidence level is these days.

Foye isn't a great fit for the Wizards, but I think he has the tools to develop into a fairly decent Fish 2.0. Good call.

[Wizards2Lottery]

He wouldn't be a bad option for the Lakers. But he sucked last year. Shot us out of many games He's painful to watch when he goes cold. He can't finish at the rim to save his life.

[Dat2U]

Foye's whole game is basically coming off a pick or screen a knocking down jumpers. I've long thought the Derek Fisher role is a good fit for him. He's not a PG or an SG. He's incapable of running an offense but he wouldn't have to in the triangle. And he really can't defend either position. But neither can Fisher at this stage of his career. Foye definitely is capable of stepping up and making big fourth quarter shots. I think he'd do okay with Kobe.

[GhostsOfGil]

foye gets absolutely abused by bigger more physical guards but he has fairly good lateral quickness and seems like a player who could be committed to defense if coached rite.. for his size, he is a pretty good finisher around the rim and can get his shot over much taller defenders. the most irritating thing about foye is his shot selection. he doesnt really take many mid range jumpers, and doesnt settle for too many 3s. instead he takes the low % long range 2point shot...

someone said foye shot the wizaards out of a few games but there were also a few games that foye just went off in the 4th. there were games i hated him and games i loved him. since being drafted he has always struggled with his consistency and can be very streaky. o ya... his pg skills are turrible. not really a great passer, and is either in attack mode, or spread the ball mode. never really showed any true pg skills.

[nate33]

Offensively, he is ideal for the Triangle. He's a very good shooter and he takes care of the ball without turning it over. Defensively, he just isn't very good at defending either the PG position or the SG position.

[miller31time]

Talent and technical fit aside, I don't think Foye has the mindset of a winner. I don't think he'd be able to handle point guard duties in Los Angeles.

[Kanyewest]

Foye's problem in DC stemmed from Washington running a pure point guard offense. I actually don't think his defense was that bad. Yes, he took some shots but when Arenas went out, Jamison and Butler left, and Josh Howard left, someone was going to have to put up more shots than normal especially since Mike Miller is afraid to shoot.

You could just tell that Foye was thinking too much out there and the lack of ball movement hurt his game> I think Foye would do much better in a 2 guard offense that the Wizards were running at the end of the year.

But yeah, he could fit in with the Lakers given that he won't have to do as much in a triangle offense. Although Fisher certainly has Foye beat on being gritty on defense and flopping. Foye doesn't seem to have that ability to attack the basket anymore.

[verbal8]

I could see doing a S&T of Foye with the Lakers for Vujiac, the Memphis second and a heavily protected future 1st.

[Kanyewest]

Just to add:

I also think Flip has been misusing Foye a bit. I see him as more as catch and shoot player than Caron Butler or Nick Young, yet Saunders didn't seem to play him at shooting guard alongside Arenas. I think Nate posted something last offseason that showed that Foye's PER was significantly higher as a shooting guard than as a point guard. Could he guard shooting guards? Meh but it's not like an Arenas/Boykins was that great defensively.

To be fair to Flip, I don't think Butler was happy with a role of taking 28-32 mpg. This could have been ideal to allow for Miller to play some minutes at small forward and open up some minutes on a consistent basis for either Foye or Young. There were several games where Flip shortened his rotation too much in the regular season and didn't give Foye or for that matter guys like Blatche (pre trade deadline) and Young consistent minutes on a night to night basis.

Again, I think Foye would have done much better in a 2 guard offense that the Wizards ran at the end of the season. The Wizards did lack ball movement when Foye played but that may have been system rather the players. I also think Foye is clearly not someone that you want as your 1 or 1a option; ideally he's a 3rd or 4th option on offense. That wasn't the case with Blatche, Thornton, Miller, and McGee.

But yeah, there were things that were a bit annoying about Foye's game. While he could get into the paint on several occasions, he didn't have the ability to finish at the rim nor draw fouls at a consistent basis. Defensively, I think he was average- not a horrible defender but not a great defender either. Quicker point guards gave him problems like Rondo- although I think he did a decent enough job on combo guards.

Like Mike Miller, I think Foye would be a good fit on a team uses multiple guys to run the offense like in LA or wherever LeBron or Wade ends up. My advice to him is that he needs to be more efficient when attacking the basket.

[It_Was_Typed]

How much do you guys think he's looking for?

And will the Wizards even bother to extend a qualifying offer to him?

[verbal8]

How much do you guys think he's looking for?

And will the Wizards even bother to extend a qualifying offer to him?

I think the QO is about the right salary level. I think he probably tries to get a 3 year deal. However with the Hinrich acquisition, I don't see any room on the Wizard's roster for him.