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EE DFA'D 

Post#1 » by SargentBargs101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:49 pm

Heard it on the fan... didn't see this coming. emaus can have third base for himself and brett wallace doesn't have to be worried of some horrible throws... he didn't take the demotion well i guess.
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Post#2 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:58 pm

Being DFA'd doesn't mean he won't be in AAA. It just means he has to pass through waivers, which he should do with ease.
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Post#3 » by SargentBargs101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:07 pm

is he making alot??
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Post#4 » by LittleOzzy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:17 pm

In a surprise move, the Blue Jays on Monday afternoon designated Edwin Encarnacion for assignment, meaning the third baseman’s days with the club are over.

Toronto now has 10 days to either trade or send Encarnacion through waivers. If he clears – and no one claims him on the waiver wire – he can report to class AAA Las Vegas. But that doesn’t appear to be an option.

The move comes less than 24 hours after Monday’s game when Jays management assigned Encarnacion to the Las Vegas farm team and recalled third baseman Jarrett Hauffpauir to take his place on the major league roster.

Following the move, Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos told reporters Encarnacion accepted the move like a gentleman and shook hands. The Jays said Encarnacion was being sent to the minors to work on his swing, and actually told him the duration of his demotion “wouldn’t be long.”

Encarnacion asked not to talk to reporters afterwards, and it now appears he spoke to his agent and came back to the Blue Jays demanding a ticket out of town.

No one on the team had commented on the situation as of Monday afternoon, but the sudden change in Encarnacion’s situation – from what appeared to be a routine demotion to a sudden change in designation – suggests the veteran infielder is not seeing the demotion the way the Jays are.

If the Jays do work a trade for Encarnacion, it’s likely they would get another team to take him off their hands for a minor league prospect. Encanacion is earning $4.7 million this season in the final year of a two year, $7.6 million deal he signed with Cincinnati last year. The Jays would almost certainly be willing to absorb the remainder of what they owe Encarnacion this season to complete a deal.


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Post#5 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:18 pm

SargentBargs101 wrote:is he making alot??

4.75M prorated. He won't be claimed, unless somebody like Dayton Moore or Brian Sabean does something stupid.

He shouldn't be in any sort of position to refuse assignment at that point.
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Post#6 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:21 pm

Toronto now has 10 days to either trade or send Encarnacion through waivers. If he clears – and no one claims him on the waiver wire – he can report to class AAA Las Vegas. But that doesn’t appear to be an option.

Why would this not be an option? The Jays have no reason to accommodate Encarnacion and eat his contract in a trade.
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Post#7 » by SargentBargs101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:25 pm

The Toronto Star is reporting that E5 spoke to his agent after the game, and came back and told the Jays he didn't want to accept the demotion to AAA.

He still has time to change his mind but it is unlikely. Now he can keep the Jays money and play for someone else without restrictions.

.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/bluejays/article/826534--game-over-for-edwin-encarnacion-with-blue-jays
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Post#8 » by SargentBargs101 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:27 pm

# Jays figure no one will claim a .200 hitter who's making $4.75M. "We're fairly confident he will clear," GM says.
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Post#9 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:33 pm

SargentBargs101 wrote:# Jays figure no one will claim a .200 hitter who's making $4.75M. "We're fairly confident he will clear," GM says.

So why would it mean that AAA isn't an option for him?

I think the Star jumped the gun on E5 having played his last game with the team.
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Post#10 » by Modern_epic » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:16 pm

SargentBargs101 wrote:The Toronto Star is reporting that E5 spoke to his agent after the game, and came back and told the Jays he didn't want to accept the demotion to AAA.

He still has time to change his mind but it is unlikely. Now he can keep the Jays money and play for someone else without restrictions.

.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/bluejays/article/826534--game-over-for-edwin-encarnacion-with-blue-jays


If he clears waivers (which he will) and refuses the assignment to AAA, he doesn't get to keep the Jays money.
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Re: EE DFA'D 

Post#11 » by Schad » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:00 pm

Modern_epic wrote:If he clears waivers (which he will) and refuses the assignment to AAA, he doesn't get to keep the Jays money.


If Cot's service time records were up-to-date at the beginning of the year, you're correct...heh, if he refused the assignment with five years' service, he would be entitled to his salary. However, he looks to have just over 4.5 years, which means that he's boned. For that reason, I would expect that he'd suffer through AAA for $2m that he wouldn't get otherwise.
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Post#12 » by OldNo7 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:28 am

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Modern_epic wrote:If he clears waivers (which he will) and refuses the assignment to AAA, he doesn't get to keep the Jays money.


If Cot's service time records were up-to-date at the beginning of the year, you're correct...heh, if he refused the assignment with five years' service, he would be entitled to his salary. However, he looks to have just over 4.5 years, which means that he's boned. For that reason, I would expect that he'd suffer through AAA for $2m that he wouldn't get otherwise.


And if he doesnt, his agent is a moron for calling this shot aftering a seemingly amicable decision between AA and EE after yesterday's game.
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Post#13 » by KenPiffilousIII » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:35 am

he'll get picked up by the mets, they pick up every spanish player...
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Post#14 » by Peteros » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:01 pm

That's what you get for not hustling to first base on a play. and for hitting under .200 UUuuugly. Good riddance!
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Post#15 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:22 pm

Don't forget fielding worse than a 45 year-old with hip, knee and shoulder problems, Peteros...
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Post#16 » by kelso » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:27 pm

SO, now the deal is down to Roenicke and Stewart for Scott Rolen.....

I guess because Rolen asked to be traded, I can't be too hard on JP for this deal. That said, Roenicke has been less than impressive, Stewart is not exactly tearing up double-A and Encarnacion was a complete bust at 3rd base for the Jays.

Meanwhile, Rolen is hitting .299 with 15 bombs and 46 RBI.....

oh, and Ricciardi is doing MLB analysis for ESPN now....
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Post#17 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:17 pm

kelso wrote:SO, now the deal is down to Roenicke and Stewart for Scott Rolen.....

I guess because Rolen asked to be traded, I can't be too hard on JP for this deal. That said, Roenicke has been less than impressive, Stewart is not exactly tearing up double-A and Encarnacion was a complete bust at 3rd base for the Jays.

Meanwhile, Rolen is hitting .299 with 15 bombs and 46 RBI.....

oh, and Ricciardi is doing MLB analysis for ESPN now....

#1. As you said, Rolen is the one who wanted out of Toronto. Though even if he didn't want out, I still would have traded him to begin rebuilding mode.
#2. Like the Rios situation, the Jays told JP to cut payroll and he did.
#3. If the Jays could have made the deal without E5, they would have done so. The Reds made including his contract a requirement.
#4. I don't think we've seen the last of E5 as a Blue Jay. There is no reason to think that he won't be in AAA in 10 days.
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Post#18 » by kelso » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:32 pm

Well, I would certainly like to think we HAVE seen the last of EE as a Blue Jay. The only way this club makes forward progress is by adding higher level free agent talent, and/or by letting top-level prospects have playing time in the majors. EE doesn't fit into either of these categories.

Encarnacion has had a few good seasons in the majors, but he's not exactly a rookie. He's 27 years old. Add to this that his defense is marginal at best, hence the nickname. As you said, we didnt pick him up because JP robbed the Reds in a deal- he was salary filler moving the other way and the Reds were happy to oblige.
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Post#19 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:05 pm

Well he almost certainly won't be on the team next year, but being sent down to AAA doesn't mean we've seen the last of him this year.
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Post#20 » by kelso » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:24 pm

I would really love to see AA move some of our pitching for a solid 3B from a team that has a few of them. This is based of course on the assumption that Wallace projects to be the 1B of the future (next year). Alex Gordon seems to be figuring things out and it wasnt too long ago that George Brett was endorsing him ans the next him....maybe we could grab a guy like that on the cheap and actually realizes his potential.

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