Chris Paul to Orlando?

demcanes26 · Post #41 » by **demcanes26** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:15 am

kookie_819 wrote:
ptown08 wrote:That is a disgusting deal for New Orleans. Would go down as the worst trade in NBA history.

Orlando deal is not even better than the Lakers because the Grizzlies got instant cap space, and draft picks. NO would just be downgrading at a position of strength.

SolidSnake008 · Post #42 » by **SolidSnake008** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:50 am

Could be interesting.....The deal may not make sense to us basketball fans but to the guys in the Armani suits that want to buy the Hornets team and not be in debt i think it gives them a reason to think about it.....that being said this deal is unlikely to happen cause CP3 means a lot to that city but people got to remember that the NBA is a business and it's all about the bottom line

Philly KDub · Post #43 » by **Philly KDub** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:13 am

Paul + Howard doesn't equal championship. Losing Carter will put a huge dent to the Magic's SG position. Redick isn't a starter at SG. You need a stud SG and a stud PF/C in order to win the championship.

Howard isn't skilled enough offensively to carry the Magic to a championship. If the Magic feel that they can get a player like Redd to play SG then they should pull a trigger. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense for the Magic.

richboy · Post #44 » by **richboy** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:16 am

well the hornets could send jameer somewhere and make it a 3 way deal if they didnt want nelson.

richboy · Post #45 » by **richboy** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:20 am

KDubbz wrote:Paul + Howard doesn't equal championship. Losing Carter will put a huge dent to the Magic's SG position. Redick isn't a starter at SG. You need a stud SG and a stud PF/C in order to win the championship.

Howard isn't skilled enough offensively to carry the Magic to a championship. If the Magic feel that they can get a player like Redd to play SG then they should pull a trigger. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense for the Magic.

You realize the magic went to the finals with courtney lee and jj. The Magic would love this deal. They are a PNR team. Unfortunately they have the worst PNR PG in the league. They get Chris Paul they suddenly have the best or second best PNR PG around. Then all they would have to do is bring back JJ. Use the MLE. Perhaps trade Gortat for another scorer.

SolidSnake008 · Post #46 » by **SolidSnake008** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:25 am

KDubbz wrote:Paul + Howard doesn't equal championship. Losing Carter will put a huge dent to the Magic's SG position. Redick isn't a starter at SG. You need a stud SG and a stud PF/C in order to win the championship.

Howard isn't skilled enough offensively to carry the Magic to a championship. If the Magic feel that they can get a player like Redd to play SG then they should pull a trigger. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense for the Magic.

Really? so getting a arguable top 10 player that plays the most important position on the floor doesn't make sense for us? Paul made freaking Tyson Chandler look like and allstar imagine what he could do for Howard....It's your opinion so i'm not knocking you for that though but why do you think magic fans are somewhat excited even though it may not happen? Cause we know what it can do for our team basically getting us over the hump so to speak....We really don't need an Elite 2 guard cause we made it to the finals without one....all in all though this "deal" is most likely a pipe dream just something nice to think about....doubt it happens

Post #47 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:27 am

Paul and HOward would shatter the alley oop record in a season.

That's some stupid efficiency, both guys giving you over 20 points and about 60% TS% or better. Dwight manages some pretty good offensive ratings without a guy that can really get him the ball, and Chris Paul will get more easy assists and open 3 pointers than he ever has.

Mamba Venom · Post #48 » by **Mamba Venom** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:37 am

2 top 5 MVP candidates = championship

Orlando could ship out the rest of their squad for West & Paul and they would be great!

Lewis/Carter/Nelson/Gortat/JJ

2s and 3s are the easiest role players to find in the league.

Dwight CP3 & Dav-West.

amb1ent · Post #49 » by **amb1ent** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:41 am

jason kidd : kenyon martin :: chris paul : david west

Philly KDub · Post #50 » by **Philly KDub** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:51 am

Guys, don't get me wrong. Paul will instantly make Howard and everyone else better. That's how good Paul is. Yes, Orlando did make the Finals with Lee as a starter at SG but you have to remember they had Hedo at SF. He's the one who allowed the offense to spread the floor due to his shooting and playmaking abilities.

Now that Hedo is gone, VC has been solid replacing Hedo. He's a scorer who can shoot and slash to the basket. That gives Howard space to work with in the paint. Big men need a lot of spacing. If you get rid of VC, who will spread the floor at SG position? Redick is a nice role player but he is NOT the answer at SG.

Paul isn't exactly a good 3pt shooter. He's a distributor whose offensive game is based on driving to the basket and shoot mid-range Js. That would allow the opposing defense to clog the lane more which could hurt Howard's effectiveness on the offensive end.

Yeah, it would be awesome to see Paul and Howard play together but I really can't see how this would benefit the Magic.

Post #51 » by **Hilltop** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:54 am

All the talk is about how Paul would improve Howard and everyone on the team (which is true on all counts). But playing with Dwight is also going to be the best thing that could ever happen to him as well. He's going to get more space and more open looks than he's ever imagined.

It'll be a downright scary tandem.

Philly KDub · Post #52 » by **Philly KDub** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:56 am

If they can find a way to land Paul without get rid of VC then it would be a GREAT deal.

junot111 · Post #53 » by **junot111** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:57 am

I've always thought how unstoppable a team (Orlando) would be if they teamed up Dwight Howard with an elite P&R point guard like Paul, Nash, or Williams. But of course, this report is ridiculous. If the Hornets won't take Devin Harris(who can play SG) and the #3, why would they take Nelson and Carter?

junot111 · Post #54 » by **junot111** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:58 am

KDubbz wrote:If they can find a way to land Paul without get rid of Dwight Howard then it would be a GREAT deal.

Fixed.

richboy · Post #55 » by **richboy** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:10 am

KDubbz wrote:Guys, don't get me wrong. Paul will instantly make Howard and everyone else better. That's how good Paul is. Yes, Orlando did make the Finals with Lee as a starter at SG but you have to remember they had Hedo at SF. He's the one who allowed the offense to spread the floor due to his shooting and playmaking abilities.

Now that Hedo is gone, VC has been solid replacing Hedo. He's a scorer who can shoot and slash to the basket. That gives Howard space to work with in the paint. Big men need a lot of spacing. If you get rid of VC, who will spread the floor at SG position? Redick is a nice role player but he is NOT the answer at SG.

Paul isn't exactly a good 3pt shooter. He's a distributor whose offensive game is based on driving to the basket and shoot mid-range Js. That would allow the opposing defense to clog the lane more which could hurt Howard's effectiveness on the offensive end.

Yeah, it would be awesome to see Paul and Howard play together but I really can't see how this would benefit the Magic.

Chris Paul was a 41% 3 point shooter last year.

Your pretty much just saying they need to get a SF. Which is really not that hard to do. Mike Miller would be a great fit. I just don't get your point. Your saying it wouln't be a good move but the players you are talking about are very easy to replace. Dang if the Magic wanted they could easily get Hedo back.

SuigintouEV · Post #56 » by **SuigintouEV** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:15 am

1) I think Chris Paul makes the magic better
2) I don't think Chris Paul makes the magic the best team in the league because
3) The magic still don't have a power forward. They won't play guys like Bass, and rashard is a SF playing PF.

That's some stupid efficiency, both guys giving you over 20 points and about 60% TS% or better.

Dwight and Jameer virtually did exactly that in the playoffs(19 and 18), but ultimately they were still missing something. I don`t know what that something was. Obviously Chris Paul is A step up from Jameer Nelson, but something still doesn`t seem right. Championship grit?

Post #57 » by **Hilltop** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:29 am

Jameer isn't half the playmaker Paul is. That alone would make a world of difference for Howard.

There seems to be this misconception that the guy lives off easy dunks, alley-oops, feeds and whatnot. But the reality is, Howard is one of the least assisted big men in the league. He's certainly below Amare, Duncan, Bynum, Lopez, Garnett, Gasol, Stoudemire, and many others.

richboy · Post #58 » by **richboy** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:32 am

Yeah they were one of the worst passing teams in the playoffs.

You can say they are missing something because your not really sure who the 3rd guy would be. Getting a championship level 3rd guy is a lot easier if you have Chris Paul and Dwight Howard as the 1 and 2. Any number of even MLE free agents or trades could finish the deal.

Dupp · Post #59 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:41 am

i know this isnt creditable but imagine cp3 on that team instead of nelson... cp3 plus dwight, goodluck rest of teh leauge

Dupp · Post #60 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:43 am

i just read some of the thread, theres no doubt magic would be the best team in teh leauge if they had cp3 instead on nelson. its not really a debate, people dont get how good cp3 is