CDR Traded To Milwaukee For 2012 Second Rounder

[JimmyTheKid]

BUCKS FAN HERE

Hey fellas/ladies,

Just wondering what to expect from CDR. Just skimming through your responses, the feelings seemed mixed. I thought it was a steal to get him for #44. Was he that much of a basket case? I remember him being a beast at Memphis and he always seemed to have good games agains the Bucks. Whats the deal with this guy? Skiles is a no-nonsense coach and CDR is going to have to play D if he's going to see the court, but we needed athleticism in the worst way. And if he doesn't pan out, oh well, it was a 2nd round pick. Maggette and CDR should help out on the break with Jennings. Should I temper my expectations? (which arent high, I just hope he's a rotation guy) Is this guy all sideshow? Strengths? Weaknesses? Hopefully y'all can find a diamond in the rough with #44.

Thanks.

[JimmyTheKid]

Oh yeah, I forgot it wasnt for #44. It was for next year's 2nd. Either way, shed some light on this guy for me please.

[Jersey Generals]

Expect him to spend way too much time on Twitter, responding to fans in a classless way. Expect him to have a slew of good games, followed by mostly mediocre and outright terrible play. Expect him to complain about not being in memphis where he was "loved."

Strengths: He can be a great scorer off the bench. Has a decent mid-range game, is an accomplished slasher, and has fairly devent play-making ability.

Weaknesses: Sometimes doesn't play hard, and is extremely immature.

[vincecarter4pres]

Oh yeah, I forgot it wasnt for #44. It was for next year's 2nd. Either way, shed some light on this guy for me please.

It's not even next year's, it's 2012.

Well, he's good in iso's. He has a nice midrange game and an improving 3 pointer, but his range is limited and that's certainly not his forte. He's a slasher and has little problem getting to the rim. Not much of a playmaker or a passer though. Actually a solid defender. Decent, but akward looking handle. Not very athletic, but he's not a slouch either. His attitude is a major problem though, he's very me first and selfish, immature and paranoid. He is a worker and a gym rat though.
I still think with the right coach, an attitude overhaul and work on his long range jumper he could become a very successful rotation guy and maybe an important big minute sixth man, which probably would be the role best suited to his style.
I think he's one of those guys that's too talented to drop out of the league altogether, but will not become a positive impact player or get many minutes until years down the road, after he has bounced from team to team and it finally clicks and he gets it.

[JimmyTheKid]

JerseyGenerals/VC4pres,

Thats great news. Sounds like the positives are legitimately positive and the negatives have to do with attitude. Love that he's a gym rat. Love that he's a slasher and can finish at the rim (exactly what the Bucks need)

BTW, Is Bobby Simmons the worst basketball player y'all have ever seen?

[mikhailjordan]

Pros:

- Excellent slasher
- Plays well off of his big men (expect him to get quite a few backdoor cuts and resulting slams via passes from Bogut in the same way he did with Lopez this year)
- Improving mid-range game
- Runs the court well (sorry I just always wanted to type that )
- Gym rat

Cons:

- Immaturity
- Can be ball dominant
- Tends to only cut / move without the ball when there's a chance he will receive the ball back
- Defensive consistency, he has the tools to be a good defender but the effort isn't always there
- Does not always put the team first

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I think some of his problems, such as his defensive consistency will definitely be cured under Scott Skiles, and there's a chance that he could have been coached into moving more without the ball if he had a real coach (something which Kiki was not) so if Skiles gets through to CDR then great pickup for you... If not then oh well all you had to give up was a future second rounder.

CDR quit on the Nets but if he's learned anything in his short career he won't be foolish enough to quit on the Bucks.

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As bad as Bobby Simmons is the Nets have had some terrible players on their roster... He ranks amongst the dumbest players who's ever played for the Nets but as much as I hate to say it he was much better than what Sean Williams regressed into this year...

[netsfanbq]

CDR has a great deal of potential as a scorer, but will always be a sixth man kind of player at best...which certainly has value in the league and even for our team. Hate to see him go actually, really liked him early and in college (especially when they choked it off vs. the Jayhawks!), but anything we can do to get two max FA, I'm down.

[enetric]

I agree on your CDR comments. Better than letting him walk. Tiny TE, a pick and the cap space.

As for taking back salary...unless a third team gets into this yeah, that wold be what NO is going to want to be motivated beyond prospects.

I would love to see us trade Dooling for a TE the more I look at it..and I would send a pick to get that done. Would give us a chance to add another decent body over the cap but before the start of the season.

If you are under the cap, trade exceptions count against the cap unless you renounce them. AKA we can't have any TEs if we are going to use the money in free agency.

Hi Lurking!

Yeah, when I slept on it...it came to me. Cant do that. It was late...I was tired! (getting old...lol).

[BasketCase1]

Everybody is talking about CDR's skills as a player which in my opinion, he's a talented kid. But come on now, the kid was a cancer for our team, constantly putting his tweets first over the team and management. Kid was acting like he was a superstar, and i was thrilled that he was benched for his immature tweets after he posted career highs on his stats for that one week during last season. I dont care how good the kid is, he was detrimental towards the team's chemistry as a whole and even trading him for a full season of Scott's Toilet Tissue(which are very comfortable i might add)for the arena would a have been a steal for us because it's addition by subtraction. I dont want anybody on the Nets who puts tweeting over the team first.

To hell with CDR...

And while I'm at it, To hell With Alonzo Mourning as well!!(Yes, I'm still bitter with how he downtalked the Nets years ago)

[enetric]

http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/06/nj_nets_getting_drafty_its_sti.html

Sometime before July 1, the Nets will announce that they’ve divested themselves of Chris Douglas-Roberts and his $845,000 team option, shipping both to Milwaukee for a future second-round pick. It wasn’t clear whether they wanted to keep him around anyway, judging by Thorn’s last word on the subject the other day:

“We have not exercised the option at this time,” he said Tuesday, “but we will make that decision next week, and I’m not really leaning either way – it depends on the draft.”

Then again, maybe it didn’t.

In other words, the Bucks did them a favor, because they weren’t particularly happy bringing back the King of Twit and letting him hang around with another impressionable group of kids.

But he still wasn’t as bad a kid as they made him out to be, and it’s a pretty safe bet that Skiles was sold on him after a discussion with L-Frank, who still loves him.

The Nets’ bankroll, meanwhile, is up to $27 million for free agency. And, perhaps, still rising.

[vincecarter4pres]

I mean I'm honestly not making that big of a deal out of this, but for conversations sake I find it hard to believe they couldn't get a top 10 second rounder for this kid and it would have had the exact same salary cap implications as recieving the future pick.

[BasketCase1]

I mean I'm honestly not making that big of a deal out of this, but for conversations sake I find it hard to believe they couldn't get a top 10 second rounder for this kid and it would have had the exact same salary cap implications as recieving the future pick.

I understand where you are coming from, and i have to agree. Either way, I still think it's an addition by subtraction and anything more then that is just added sprinkles on the cupcake...

[Morthello]

Only reason CDR came off as being immature is because apparently he hated losing all the time and Kiki did him no favors. I mean look at Twill; dude was talking about wishing he'd been drafted by another team in the beginning of the season and was just playing pedestrian but he matured. Put CDR on a playoff team and a real coach( which we actualy have now) and he'll be fine. Instant scoring off the bench and a real competitor. I have no problem trading him, but i think he's worth more.

[netsfanbq]

I'm glad it was for a future 2nd...if we drafted a guy we actually liked this year, we'd have to give him up to keep the salary on the books. I know the second round is a crap shoot, but it seems like every now and then the Nets end up with someone they like (regardless f whether he actually lasts...CDR, Hassan Adams, etc). I do think TWill and CDR would both thrive under a "real" coach, especially as both played reasonably well under LFrank early on. Had we kept a real coach all year, perhaps TWill would have blossomed earlier, and CDR would've focused more on the court than on his Twitter account.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm glad it was for a future 2nd...if we drafted a guy we actually liked this year, we'd have to give him up to keep the salary on the books.

False.
The future pick has the exact same salary implications as a second rounder in this draft and now we have an empty cap hold instead of a warm body for our troubles.

[netsfanbq]

I'm glad it was for a future 2nd...if we drafted a guy we actually liked this year, we'd have to give him up to keep the salary on the books.

False.
The future pick has the exact same salary implications as a second rounder in this draft and now we have an empty cap hold instead of a warm body for our troubles.

So we have a cap hold until 2012 even with no player to show for it? I hate trying to figure out the cap sometimes...my bad. Well, I would think we could have gotten a 31-40 type pick then for CDR, who has shown some potential, more than many 2nd rounders. Not going to lose sleep though.

[TheNetsFan]

1) There are NO cap holds for 2nd round picks, whether current or future.

2) There are cap holds equivalent to the rookie minimum for as many players as needed to fill out a roster to 12 players.