Chris Paul to Orlando?

[Magic24]

Like I said, if they want cap relief...we can provide a 65 million dollar swing in committed salaries over the next two years.

What other team can?

Any of the 7 or 8 teams this offseason with capspace.

Dallas for sure thanks to Dampier's deal.

And any other team with better expirings than Orlando (not going to bother looking it up).

I mean seriously?

Do you really see teams like New Jersey and New York with all that money wasting it on guys like James Posey & Emeka Okafor? No...those teams are not going to want to take those contract back with all of the big name FA's out there.

New York would.
They absorb Paul's contract. That is already a max slot well spent. They trade Curry for Okafor, which is close to the same money, for better talent. If Posey is required, they can still trade assets.

Still have a max slot open for Lebron or Bosh.

[zzmav]

Dallas could offer a package of:
-Damp (instant expiring)
-Butler(expiring)
-Stevenson(expiring), and
-Beaubois (young talent)

for

Paul
Okafor
Posey

This would create over $17 million in instant savings for New Orleans and approximately $33 million total by the end of the season. New Orleans would also get a very nice cheap young talent in Roddy B, draft picks, and probably cash from Cuban.

Just a thought.

I still don't see it being a better offer than Orlando.

At best, it is equal. In which case, if NO is going to stack a team (either Dirk+CP3 or Dwight+CP3) then wouldn't they rather him go to another conference?

Tough to say which deal is better and which one New Orleans would prefer. With new management coming in, they may wish to cut costs as quickly as possible which would give the Dallas offer a significant advantage with almost twice the amount of instant savings compared to the Orlando offer. If Cuban threw in $3million for cash considerations that would essentially be $20million instant savings and $35million total by next off-season.

They also wouldn't receive back any contracts extending past next year with the exception of Roddy B who is locked into an extremely low contract with team options beginning in 11/12 at $1.2million. With the Orlando offer Pietrus may not opt out at the end of next season and N.O. would be footing the bill for Gortat whose contract runs through the end of the 13/14 season.

[jeffjtk1234]

All this talk is pointless...Paul will not be dealt.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

I don't think there are many teams that could offer what Orlando could offer if this was to happen, i don't think it will tho. i would love to have CP-Triple in a Orlando Uni!

[LApwnd]

I don't think there are many teams that could offer what Orlando could offer if this was to happen, i don't think it will tho. i would love to have CP-Triple in a Orlando Uni!

theres bunch of post here showing much better package then orl. and you still make this claim? If Collison is to be the PG of the future what exactly is NOH gona want with Nelson?

[Tim_Hardawayy]

So the logic is nobody else will waste money to get Paul, only Orlando. Seriously?

Its fun to imagine best point guard paired with best center, but try to be somewhat rational about the chances of it happening. For Orlando to even get close to this, Paul has to state some kind of preference to going there, because they in no way hold the best potential offer for New Orleans.

[Official]

From a winning or talent standpoint, there is no logic in trading Chris Paul. New Orleans will never come win out in any deal. They will get robbed. Anyhow, Orlando has just as many assets to get a Paul deal done as anyone.

[LBPTarHeel27]

I don't think there are many teams that could offer what Orlando could offer if this was to happen, i don't think it will tho. i would love to have CP-Triple in a Orlando Uni!

theres bunch of post here showing much better package then orl. and you still make this claim? If Collison is to be the PG of the future what exactly is NOH gona want with Nelson?

Where are these suggestions?

All people keep saying is that "there are other teams that could offer better" but no one is really coming up with anything.

San Antonio is a decent option as far as cap relief got for next summer...but it is the same situation as Dallas. It is all next summer. The Magic can offer the same amount of cap relief AND about 6.3 mill in relief immediately. Not to mention a very talented big in Gortat.

New York is a decent option, probably the only team I could see competing as far as offers go. I still don't see them eating one of those big contracts. They may be able to absorb one by trading Curry but they would still have to take another. The Magic could do without thinking twice.

Like I have said...I think there is a .000001% chance of this happening. I just think if it does, the Magic are in the best position all around.

[LApwnd]

I don't think there are many teams that could offer what Orlando could offer if this was to happen, i don't think it will tho. i would love to have CP-Triple in a Orlando Uni!

theres bunch of post here showing much better package then orl. and you still make this claim? If Collison is to be the PG of the future what exactly is NOH gona want with Nelson?

Where are these suggestions?

All people keep saying is that "there are other teams that could offer better" but no one is really coming up with anything.

San Antonio is a decent option as far as cap relief got for next summer...but it is the same situation as Dallas. It is all next summer. The Magic can offer the same amount of cap relief AND about 6.3 mill in relief immediately. Not to mention a very talented big in Gortat.

New York is a decent option, probably the only team I could see competing as far as offers go. I still don't see them eating one of those big contracts. They may be able to absorb one by trading Curry but they would still have to take another. The Magic could do without thinking twice.

Like I have said...I think there is a .000001% chance of this happening. I just think if it does, the Magic are in the best position all around.

team with cap Room can give NOH instant TPE with draft pick how is that NOT better then taking on a high price PG for for multiple years when you want to give the reign to Collison? I would even argue NJ if packaging Harris/#3, #27/future picks/Dooling/ blows this magic offer out the water and if so choses could take on Okafor, can Orl take Okafor?

[Official]

What team with cap room?

[LApwnd]

What team with cap room?

NJ? , #3 alone is already better then having to pay Carter for one year.

[omagic77]

I am not one that believes this deal has any chance of happening but to say a team like Dallas has a better shot is ludicrous. Last time I checked the Hornets and Mavs were in the same division so that is an instant deal breaker. This is not the Grizz and Lakers here where the Grizz was just a horrible team looking to clear space. The Hornets have a very promising team with Collison, Thornton, West a high draft pick and whoever they would get in return for Paul. No way they help such a close rival.

To those who say the Nets, Knicks or any other team with lots of cap space could offer the immediate relief instead of being on the hook for a season have to think about what comes along with Paul. This isn't a straight up deal. You are getting 22 million (Okafor, Posey, Peterson) in salary along with Paul's 13m. Harris + #3 pick does not = 35 million. Carter, Nelson, Pietrus, T.E. does so after next season it would be like giving the Hornets 27 million per for the 3 years. How many of other team's higher ups would be willing to make that commitment when you have Lebron, Wade, Bosh and others available this off season?

Don't get me wrong as I know there are other teams that can probably offer the same type of deal but there are other dynamics involved than just giving them immediate relief for Paul and also what division and conference these teams are in.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

team with cap Room can give NOH instant TPE with draft pick how is that NOT better then taking on a high price PG for for multiple years when you want to give the reign to Collison? I would even argue NJ if packaging Harris/#3, #27/future picks/Dooling/ blows this magic offer out the water and if so choses could take on Okafor, can Orl take Okafor?[/quote]


so wait, you say that Dooling, Harris, two pg's, and they already have one in Collison, why would they trade for two more point guard, that trade makes no sense.... the draft picks maybe, and i'm Certain that CP3 says he wants to win now.

[Official]

I am sure CP3 would be thrilled playing with Okafor and Lopez in New Jersey....

[LApwnd]

so wait, you say that Dooling, Harris, two pg's, and they already have one in Collison, why would they trade for two more point guard, that trade makes no sense.... the draft picks maybe, and i'm Certain that CP3 says he wants to win now.

if I have to spell out for you to make it easier, Dooling is only 500k guranteed, so cut him theres one pg gone, #3/#27 is way better then Carter, Harris is equivalent to Nelson, both former all-star, NJ can also do a 2nd trade of TPE for posey/mopete either or, they also have Humphries/Yi who are expiring and make way less then Carter, they DO NOT need to take in equal salary since they are under the cap, NJ can take back enough to the point where they can still have room for 1 max FA, now to that guy who says CP3 will come with Okafor/Posey/Mopete, is Orl going to take that all in while still giving NOH assets and expiring?

[zzmav]

I agree with the notion that any deal involving Paul this season is extremely unlikely.

[LBPTarHeel27]

theres bunch of post here showing much better package then orl. and you still make this claim? If Collison is to be the PG of the future what exactly is NOH gona want with Nelson?

Where are these suggestions?

All people keep saying is that "there are other teams that could offer better" but no one is really coming up with anything.

San Antonio is a decent option as far as cap relief got for next summer...but it is the same situation as Dallas. It is all next summer. The Magic can offer the same amount of cap relief AND about 6.3 mill in relief immediately. Not to mention a very talented big in Gortat.

New York is a decent option, probably the only team I could see competing as far as offers go. I still don't see them eating one of those big contracts. They may be able to absorb one by trading Curry but they would still have to take another. The Magic could do without thinking twice.

Like I have said...I think there is a .000001% chance of this happening. I just think if it does, the Magic are in the best position all around.

team with cap Room can give NOH instant TPE with draft pick how is that NOT better then taking on a high price PG for for multiple years when you want to give the reign to Collison? I would even argue NJ if packaging Harris/#3, #27/future picks/Dooling/ blows this magic offer out the water and if so choses could take on Okafor, can Orl take Okafor?

Like I have said...if Paul is moved it is because they are looking to shed as much cap as possible. If a team like New Jersey wants Paul, they ARE NOT going to take Emeka Okafor and James Posey as well. They don't want to waste their chance at two big name FA's just to land one and some overpaid backups.

As for " how is that NOT better then taking on a high price PG for for multiple years...Harris/#3, #27/future picks/Dooling"

You realize that Harris is making 3 million more than Jameer Nelson for the same amount of years right?

Also, the trade I am suggesting doesn't involve Jameer Nelson. Again, if New Orleans is looking to shed as much salary as possible, they would take Pietrus and not Nelson.

It makes no sense for them to bring in another PG, whether it be Nelson OR Harris. They want relief. Pietrus will opt out and go for a new contract next summer.

The Magic offer is better because we are willing to take Okafor & Posey, give immediate AND future relief, AND give draft picks. The pick may not be as good, but the overall package is definitely better.

[LBPTarHeel27]

I am not one that believes this deal has any chance of happening but to say a team like Dallas has a better shot is ludicrous. Last time I checked the Hornets and Mavs were in the same division so that is an instant deal breaker. This is not the Grizz and Lakers here where the Grizz was just a horrible team looking to clear space. The Hornets have a very promising team with Collison, Thornton, West a high draft pick and whoever they would get in return for Paul. No way they help such a close rival.

To those who say the Nets, Knicks or any other team with lots of cap space could offer the immediate relief instead of being on the hook for a season have to think about what comes along with Paul. This isn't a straight up deal. You are getting 22 million (Okafor, Posey, Peterson) in salary along with Paul's 13m. Harris + #3 pick does not = 35 million. Carter, Nelson, Pietrus, T.E. does so after next season it would be like giving the Hornets 27 million per for the 3 years. How many of other team's higher ups would be willing to make that commitment when you have Lebron, Wade, Bosh and others available this off season?

Don't get me wrong as I know there are other teams that can probably offer the same type of deal but there are other dynamics involved than just giving them immediate relief for Paul and also what division and conference these teams are in.

Exxxxacttlllyyyy

[LApwnd]

NJ can take Okafor and still have money for 1 max FA, why would they need 2 when 1 of them 2 is already there with CP3?

[LBPTarHeel27]

NJ can take Okafor and still have money for 1 max FA, why would they need 2 when 1 of them 2 is already there with CP3?

I really don't see how they could take Posey & Okafor and still have room for another max free agent. With your proposed deal...

They currently have 22 million committed to next season. If you count them picking up Dooling's option in order to trade him, that adds on 3.8 to bring it to 25.8 million. I would imagine Kris Humphries would pick up his option because he won't be making that much as a FA (3.2 mill). That is now 29 million.

You ship out Devin Harris (8.9 million), Keyon Dooling (3.8) = 12.7 Million...brings the total to 16.3 million still invested.

Now you bring in Chris Paul (13.5 million), Emeka Okafor (11.4 million), James Posey (6.5 million) = 31.4 million in additional cap.

New total 47.7 million in committed salary - with only 9 players under contract.

Assuming they sign 2 guys to the vet min, and I will be modest with the contract...each being 2 million.

Now you are at 51.7 million with that one supposed spot for "another max FA"...

Last I checked, a max FA goes for more than 6-8 mill a year.