Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook

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Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#1 » by richboy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:55 pm

Good job Presti
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Post#2 » by richboy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:57 pm

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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#3 » by Scorpion King » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:24 pm

Good job by presti indeed. With 18 and 21 available in the draft. I see Presti drafting two bigs
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#4 » by CableKC » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:25 pm

Is there anyway that the Pacers can trade you Bird for Presti? :wink:

Seriously.....Presti continually amazes me every year with these moves. Congratulations...great and brilliant move.
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#5 » by The J Rocka » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:26 pm

I assume Whiteside at 18? Possibly too early?
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#6 » by perezident » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:45 pm

Wow, when I saw that the 18th pick was available I instantly knew it would be either you guys or Blazers get that pick! I envy how well you guys do around draft time! Great work! So is it Whiteside? James Anderson?
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Post#7 » by slick_watts » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:10 pm

D. Cook is a decent player, but I think he's just fodder here for the 18th pick. He cuts into about $2 million of our cap, though, so it makes signing a big FA less likely.

With three first round picks I can't see us keeping them all. Unless Presti really had his eye on someone at #18.
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Post#8 » by BadWolf » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:19 pm

It's peobably an intro to another trade, possibly moving up. How far can 19 and 21 get you?
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#9 » by Joel Embust » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:12 am

Great trade. Managed to move up the draft board without giving up core pieces or their 21st/26th picks.

I'm sure Presti has another trade in place, no way he's keeping 18, 21 and 26.

Cook could be a nice player to bring when the team needs perimeter scoring, at the end of close games etc.
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#10 » by Joel Embust » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:41 am

Eleqtrique wrote:Great trade. Managed to move up the draft board without giving up core pieces or their 21st/26th picks.

I'm sure Presti has another trade in place, no way he's keeping 18, 21 and 26.


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Post#11 » by xpmar9x » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:47 am

Solid trade for you guys, congrats.
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Post#12 » by slick_watts » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:03 am

Cole Aldrich is better than the guys that were in our range at 18-26. I wouldn't be floored with that sequence of events because it probably means we're sticking with Green at PF, but it's definitely better than where we stood to begin the day if that happened. Aldrich would probably be an upgrade over Krstic.
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Post#13 » by dream_catcher_9 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:07 am

slick_watts wrote:Cole Aldrich is better than the guys that were in our range at 18-26. I wouldn't be floored with that sequence of events because it probably means we're sticking with Green at PF, but it's definitely better than where we stood to begin the day if that happened. Aldrich would probably be an upgrade over Krstic.


Aldrich will be a very fundamental defensive post presence, who can block shots and rebound the ball. That is one big weakness that would get solved. Still would need more efficiency, and less turnovers but the good thing about Cole? He is very efficient with his touches, and doesn't turn the ball over.

I really hope we get him.
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Post#14 » by slick_watts » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:20 am

Krstic is decently efficient with his touches too, very low turnovers. Aldrich is a better defender at this level most likely, probably better in a pick and roll situation too. But I'm just worried that this would point to a Green extension.
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Post#15 » by dream_catcher_9 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:27 am

slick_watts wrote:Krstic is decently efficient with his touches too, very low turnovers. Aldrich is a better defender at this level most likely, probably better in a pick and roll situation too. But I'm just worried that this would point to a Green extension.


don't worry about a Green extension, he won't get overpaid.
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Post#16 » by slick_watts » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:43 am

Green's agent is David Falk. He's not taking any discounts, and if he's extended this offseason he will be overpaid. There's no reason for Green to agree to an extension UNLESS he gets overpaid, as RFA would create competition for his services and increase his price.
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#17 » by Hobes » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:45 am

Excellent trade to wake up to. Great job Presti!

I'd love if it somehow we could move higher than 10th into the 5-6th range.
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Post#18 » by dream_catcher_9 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:48 am

slick_watts wrote:Green's agent is David Falk. He's not taking any discounts, and if he's extended this offseason he will be overpaid. There's no reason for Green to agree to an extension UNLESS he gets overpaid, as RFA would create competition for his services and increase his price.


lets wait and see. id bet money that Green doesn't get overpaid.
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#19 » by sonictecture » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:06 am

A very interesting trade that could lead to multiple possibilities for how the 18th is used.

1. No other trades take place either due to desire or ability. Presti paid less in Cook's salary to move from 32 to 18 as Kevin Pritchard paid in cash to move from 44 to 34. The 18th position puts Presti ahead of San Antonio and Boston, two teams that might be targeting a player Presti wants.

2. The rumored trade of Maynor, 18 & 21 to the Pacers for 10 and (a contract?) takes place. My first thought was either Presti wanted to make sure he gets his player or he wants the #10 to use in another move or he has another player projected to be at 10 that he would like to add.

I question targeting Aldrich as I think there is a good chance he is a slider on draft night. I think his measurements could really hurt him, especially after an mediocre season. Aldrich is slightly longer than Nick Collison but not by much. Other measurements are similar and college production is less.

3. The rumored trade to acquire the #10 is intended to use as additional incentive to get an established player. ESPN stated in their draft preview they believe that Al Jefferson is the most likely player to be traded on or before the draft.

We've discussed Jefferson for Green for months with the typical conclusion that Green is not enough for Minnesota. Would #10 and Green or Harden do the trick?

It could be argued that Ibaka not Harden is currently the 3rd member of the existing core of players. With that assume Ibaka will not be traded. In addition if you do acquire Jefferson, Ibaka is potentially a great fit alongside him in the front court. The addition of Jefferson reduces the available role for Harden or Green making them expendable.
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Re: Thunder trade #32 pick to Heat for #18 Pick AND Daequan Cook 

Post#20 » by slick_watts » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:20 am

Jefferson / Ibaka is better than nothing but it doesn't improve our ball movement at all. It's a horrible passing front court. I like Jefferson a lot, but I'd hold out for David Lee in UFA instead.

I think your first assumption is most likely. That Presti saw an opportunity to leap frog Boston and San Antonio, who are widely thought to be pursuing similar players in that range.

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