#13 for Fernandez+#22 (Deal dead, pg. 26)

Post #61 » by **Maritimer** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:17 am

Avenger wrote:Fernandez>>>>pick 22 - pick 13, this should be a no brainer in this draft

and i'm really not a fan of Fernandez at all.

Exaaaaactly.

JamesNaismith · Post #62 » by **JamesNaismith** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:17 am

Portland's trying to get the Vanilla Gorilla 2.0 (Cole Aldrich).

lorax · Post #63 » by **lorax** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:17 am

If the trade does go down . . . hopefully something is in place that moves one of our other mediocre wings with one of our ugly contracts.
Shuffling deckchairs?

KingstonRaptors · Post #64 » by **KingstonRaptors** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:18 am

dagger wrote:
HeirCanada10 wrote:NO chance i do that just horrible we got enough wings!

We have DD, Weems, and... Belinelli is expiring and can be packaged with out other expirings. Turk is on the block. Wrignt is gonzo.

Too many wings? Really?

You're insinuating that there are plenty of takers for Hedo's services? I honestly think we'll be stuck with him for another season. Yeah, sure he had a great playoff run in '09 but he's got baggage now.

AbC? · Post #65 » by **AbC?** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:19 am

Dear God noooooooooo

mowcrowbar · Post #66 » by **mowcrowbar** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:19 am

Its safe to say if this goes through calderon will also stay here.. Time to fire colangelo.

EventHorizon · Post #67 » by **EventHorizon** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:19 am

Do we really believe Bradley will fall to 22? Rudy is not a starter and has not shown he can be an everyday starter. If Orton is there at 22 Raps should consider it no doubt, but don't be too fast to pull the trigger.

Indeed · Post #68 » by **Indeed** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:20 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
A_wildstabatanything wrote:Fernandez threatened to go back to Europe because he wasn't getting enough PT in Portland. What's he going to do here with DeRozan & Weems gunning for those minutes?

you do know between SG and SF theres 96 minutes to go around, right? Man i swear some people on this board are CLUELESS.

I guess Rudy also demands the ball, and effective when he has the ball.
Which means, when he plays with Roy, he doesn't get the ball, and he doesn't like it that way.

I think he will play PG, and not SF.
The question is, can he defend PG/SG.

Local_NG_Idiot · Post #69 » by **Local_NG_Idiot** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:20 am

So BC picks PP at 13 and then hopes his man is on the board at 22?

RapsFanInOhio · Post #70 » by **RapsFanInOhio** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:20 am

It doesn't work straight up because we can't just take on Rudy's contract. Unless it happens July 1st, and Rudy + #22's salaries = #13's salary. I don't feel like looking though. It'd have to be Marco + 13 for Rudy and 22.

I'd do it. One of Bradley or Bledsoe will be there at 22.

Indeed · Post #71 » by **Indeed** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:21 am

KingstonRaptors wrote:
dagger wrote:
HeirCanada10 wrote:NO chance i do that just horrible we got enough wings!

We have DD, Weems, and... Belinelli is expiring and can be packaged with out other expirings. Turk is on the block. Wrignt is gonzo.

Too many wings? Really?

You're insinuating that there are plenty of takers for Hedo's services? I honestly think we'll be stuck with him for another season. Yeah, sure he had a great playoff run in '09 but he's got baggage now.

I think there are plenty of takers, it just the matter of what they want to return to us.
A bad contract or a serviceable player.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #72 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:22 am

EventHorizon wrote:Do we really believe Bradley will fall to 22? Rudy is not a starter and has not shown he can be an everyday starter. If Orton is there at 22 Raps should consider it no doubt, but don't be too fast to pull the trigger.

depends really on a couple things.

1) Indiana moving down and OKC moving up (#18 + for #10)
2) Memphis/Minnesota doing a #16 for #25 for #28 swap

obviously the deal hasnt happened for a reason. Someone doesnt like it or wants to wait. So other than that no teams really need Bradley.

aselvana · Post #73 » by **aselvana** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:22 am

me thinks that bc is trying to show he is active, but really he has no options to vastly improve the team.

darthkiller · Post #74 » by **darthkiller** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:22 am

didndt know the raptors are trying to build the worst defensive team in history.

DreamTeam09 · Post #75 » by **DreamTeam09** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:24 am

This would only work make sense if he got chicago`s or boston pick. And hope bradley or bledsoe was there. then take Alabi at 22.

realball · Post #76 » by **realball** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:24 am

Wow. Raptor fans are just stupid. Everyone wanted to trade the #9 (DD) for Rudy a year ago. He starts complaining a bit and now he's no better than Marco.

Rudy is ****ing awesome. He wants out of Portland because on that team, he's relegated to being a 3-pt specialist. On this team, we would put the ball in his hands, and he would be our best perimeter scorer. If we can get Bradley/Bledsoe at #22 (and from all the mock drafts, it seems like we can), then I say why the hell not.

JJ, DD, Rudy, and Avery would make an awesome and versatile backcourt, and Marco is an excellent fifth guard.

aselvana · Post #77 » by **aselvana** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:24 am

mowcrowbar wrote:Its safe to say if this goes through calderon will also stay here.. Time to fire colangelo.

and demar is gone

A_wildstabatanything · Post #78 » by **A_wildstabatanything** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:25 am

Maritimer wrote:
A_wildstabatanything wrote:Fernandez threatened to go back to Europe because he wasn't getting enough PT in Portland. What's he going to do here with DeRozan & Weems gunning for those minutes?

Those two combine for 48 minutes a night, tops. I think there's room for minutes.

None of those guys are capable of playing significant minutes at the 3. The bigger SFs would eat them alive. Playing them there would add to the existing defensive issues with the frontcourt.

Plus there's no reason to hold DeRozan's minutes back with Bosh gone.

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #79 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:25 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
A_wildstabatanything wrote:Fernandez threatened to go back to Europe because he wasn't getting enough PT in Portland. What's he going to do here with DeRozan & Weems gunning for those minutes?

you do know between SG and SF theres 96 minutes to go around, right? Man i swear some people on this board are CLUELESS.

Why can't he get enough pt in portland? Good players always get minutes. He could've played at the 1 or even spot minutes at the 3. Do you think you know better than the Blazers coaching staff?
Didn't we say the same thing about Belinelli last year; that Nellie was misusing him? Nellie turned out to be right about him, didn't he?
And let's not forget about Rudy's irritating habit of bitching to the media constantly. We don't like it when Wright does it, or even when Turk does it halfway around the world. This board would rip him apart. And let's not forget, if he's not happy,he bolts to Europe and we lose an asset.
If we want him this bad, trade Marco for him. If not, screw him and screw Pritchard.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #80 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:25 am

aselvana wrote:
mowcrowbar wrote:Its safe to say if this goes through calderon will also stay here.. Time to fire colangelo.

and demar is gone

oh god.