2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors

[deviljets7]

Seriously? And we are saying hey...cant deal Devin??????

The Celtics are shopping Kendrick Perkins and the 19th overall pick to teams high in the lottery, according to a source.

Perkins was injured in Game 6 of the NBA Finals.



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E,

I think you are confusing dealing Devin for assets, with dealing Devin for cap room (and presumably assets).

I'm sure Boston in any deal would at the very least be taking equal salary back.

If you're willing to deal Harris in a deal that doesn't create significant cap savings I'm sure you could get very good value for him. The problem is by asking for the significant cap savings, you have eliminated almost all possible suitors because they either don't have the cap savings to offer or are unwilling to limit their free agent flexibility to do it.

[enetric]

Come on....

I am not confusing anything here. Perkins and 19 and I dont care if you offer to wash the other teams car and let him grope your wife. Cap space of no cap space...that crap gets a lottery pick and we are going to go round and round here?

I agree...need is the key issue. But basically you broke that down as...hey...if you take more from someone you can get more. That is not exactly true either.

As for the previous post...I have no beef with most of what oyu said. Good points.

I will address 2 and 3.

First off...the Bulls rumor is getting the Clips lottery pick for their lower pick and Deng. Its exactly the same angle I wasnt suggesting wouldnt be easy...but instead saying...hey...lets look at that. Can we find a similar deal? it was a hey lets put our heas together...not I think this is a piece of cake. not sure what you read to think i was saying otherwise.

Last on the Flynn thing. I think you are looking at it from only one angle. If you actually upgraed youe PG spot...perhaps you might LIKE to revisit an offer for an extra lottery pick. I mean...arent you jumping to the most simple conclusion? Rumor said they turned it down...they must love him and arent going to be interested in anything else. Perhaps its was need. Perhaps you say screw this...lets upgrade.

Now I dont see a deal happening...I am just saying...I dont agree with your conclusion of the rumor mill. Like...hey this can only mean this. Just saying...

[Rich Rane]

Does anyone understand the ass clown today?

Basically a bunch of rumors now being reported to be nonsense they he didnt like make him trust Thorn...LESS rather than more?

Basically this guy lives to be a whinny girl and looks for bizarre angles to validate himself.

E, I must ask that you not refer to said poster as "ass clown". Please note that even though he may disagree with you or many others, whether it's to a close or very far extent, he is a Nets fan. I also ask that you use the ignore function.

[Rockice_8]

We are offering #27 and #31 for #19. I wonder if Thorn has a hand shake deal for Harris or Yi and he is trying to move up to target a replacement PG (Avery Bradley) or something.

[Preludepunk27]

To tell you the truth, I think Yi would be great off the bench for Boston. Any team looking for length in their front court and the ability to spread the floor due to their range would benefit from Yi. Too bad wed have to take back contracts in that situation though.

I did read that although Prohky and the other execs view Yi as a focal point for creating a Global Brand, if we can move him for future picks and cap space now, we would.

As huge as Yi is in China, if I had to move him for a better chance to get Lebron...do I really need to finish my thought?

Right now I've be begging teams for take Dooling or Humphries for future 2nd round picks and a TPE and Yi for future protected 1st round pick. If we can keep the rest of that roster together and get 2 legit players, you're talking about a scary team for the next 5 years at the minimum.

[SteveNets15]

I'm sticking with Cousins as my pick to.He's the BPA so I'll take the chance on him.I think once he gets to play against the better competition every night he'll either crawl into the fetel position or step up and prove people wrong.John Calipari was saying last night on that draft show that Cousins is the type of kid that will remember every team that passed on him and will try to drop 50 on them everytime he's plays them to the day he retires.Thats just the type of mentality he has.I'm just saying he doesnt seem like a kid thats going fold going up against better competition every night.I think once he gets his ass busted by DH and schooled by guys like Bosh,he'll understand what its goin to take to get better.Like losing weight and hitting the gym for gods sake.Dam i just don't want to mess this pick up by going with the safe option over the BPA.SAC is going to end up with another steal watch.Evans and Cousins bak2bak ahhhhhhhhhhhh I can't take this anymore.I'm going to lunch

[Preludepunk27]

I'm sticking with Cousins as my pick to.He's the BPA so I'll take the chance on him.I think once he gets to play against the better competition every night he'll either crawl into the fetel position or step up and prove people wrong.John Calipari was saying last night on that draft show that Cousins is the type of kid that will remember every team that passed on him and will try to drop 50 on them everytime he's plays them to the day he retires.Thats just the type of mentality he has.I'm just saying he doesnt seem like a kid thats going fold going up against better competition every night.I think once he gets his ass busted by DH and schooled by guys like Bosh,he'll understand what its goin to take to get better.Like losing weight and hitting the gym for gods sake.Dam i just don't want to mess this pick up by going with the safe option over the BPA.SAC is going to end up with another steal watch.Evans and Cousins bak2bak ahhhhhhhhhhhh I can't take this anymore.I'm going to lunch

Since he's an offensive black hole, yeah he'll score 50 but his team will lose by 30. He is the spawn of Zach Randolph and Eddie Curry. Jay Bilas was on Mike & Mike this morning and he said if it were up to him, Even though he thinks he's the most NBA ready player in the draft he'd pass on Cousins and let someone else deal with it.

[amk482]

Adrian Woj via twitter....

Rod Thorn "doesn't love" Nets draft spot now and open for right bid to move down, sources say. "He's fine with sliding back," source says.

[Preludepunk27]

Adrian Woj via twitter....

Rod Thorn "doesn't love" Nets draft spot now and open for right bid to move down, sources say. "He's fine with sliding back," source says.

I want Favors. Personally, the only way I'm moving down is if a team takes Hump and doolings off our hands or makes our team legitimately better without sacrificing the room for a max player. I'm pretty sure that gives us the 2 max contract space without losing Yi.

Can someone verify that for me?

[Rockice_8]

Look this is a 5 player maybe 6 (Monroe/Udoh) player draft and if we move out of the top 5 it better because we now have 2 max spots available or it better be because we are landing a superstar. If we trade down to 7 or something and get an extra pick and then draft Aminu I'm going to jump. Just take Favors and try to dump Yi with picks later on.

Can Proky just tell Hump look don't exercise your option and I will give you a bs job in my company and pay you 4 mil then fire you and you can go find a team where you can find some PT.

Bam just like that trade Yi and a future 1st for Gomes and his ungauranteed contract and do the Hump under the table deal and we could keep our #3 pick and Harris while gaining 2 max slots

Championship!

[Rockice_8]

Adrian Woj via twitter....

Rod Thorn "doesn't love" Nets draft spot now and open for right bid to move down, sources say. "He's fine with sliding back," source says.

I want Favors. Personally, the only way I'm moving down is if a team takes Hump and doolings off our hands or makes our team legitimately better without sacrificing the room for a max player. I'm pretty sure that gives us the 2 max contract space without losing Yi.

Can someone verify that for me?

No Pre, I think it has to be Yi and Hump or Harris to get the 2 max spots.

[SteveNets15]

I think we need about 8 million off the cap to sign 2 max.

[SteveNets15]

So it would have to be Yi,Hump and Dooling.

[Rockice_8]

So it would have to be Yi,Hump and Dooling.

Dooling is easy just buy himout which is a definate. Yi should still have some value especially if we throw on a 2nd rounder (hell I'd do 2 if we had to. Then Hump is the problem no way anyone is taking him unless the third goes with him and no way he's making more then 3 mil anywhere. The one thing we could do is if we can manage the Yi trade and my other theory about gving Hump a job in Proky's co. deosn't work, then do we S&T Favors, Hump, and our late first (I think we might buy #23 so include that or #27) for Bosh and #13.

Yeah I want #13 too because TOR knows they are losing him for nothing so why give up that much.

[enetric]

Does anyone understand the ass clown today?

Basically a bunch of rumors now being reported to be nonsense they he didnt like make him trust Thorn...LESS rather than more?

Basically this guy lives to be a whinny girl and looks for bizarre angles to validate himself.

E, I must ask that you not refer to said poster as "ass clown". Please note that even though he may disagree with you or many others, whether it's to a close or very far extent, he is a Nets fan. I also ask that you use the ignore function.

Sure no problem, I can stop referring to him as an ass clown. Or, yes...I can actually just ignore the ass clown. But said "ass clown" poster isnt a Nets fan. He is a guy who was banned once before and he is trolling. So...I guess you should probably look into it. Is he a Nets fan? Or, an as clown?

Thanks Rich...

[SteveNets15]

[enetric]

I'm sticking with Cousins as my pick to.He's the BPA so I'll take the chance on him.I think once he gets to play against the better competition every night he'll either crawl into the fetel position or step up and prove people wrong.John Calipari was saying last night on that draft show that Cousins is the type of kid that will remember every team that passed on him and will try to drop 50 on them everytime he's plays them to the day he retires.Thats just the type of mentality he has.I'm just saying he doesnt seem like a kid thats going fold going up against better competition every night.I think once he gets his ass busted by DH and schooled by guys like Bosh,he'll understand what its goin to take to get better.Like losing weight and hitting the gym for gods sake.Dam i just don't want to mess this pick up by going with the safe option over the BPA.SAC is going to end up with another steal watch.Evans and Cousins bak2bak ahhhhhhhhhhhh I can't take this anymore.I'm going to lunch

I think that ship has sailed. I cant see us taking him at #3.

As for what will happen....well its possible. He has the talent. But, a 19 year old kid who doesnt like to work out who is about to be handed millions of dollars, will be out on the road doing his thing with LESS supervision. And btw... I read that he has no drivers license. He will be relying on whatever "entourage" he has assembled to get him around. But don't worry. I am sure he has a fantastic support network that will make sure he eats salads, goes to bed early, reads the classics and hits the gym.

After all...what is an entourage for?????

[enetric]

So it would have to be Yi,Hump and Dooling.

Dooling is easy just buy himout which is a definate. Yi should still have some value especially if we throw on a 2nd rounder (hell I'd do 2 if we had to. Then Hump is the problem no way anyone is taking him unless the third goes with him and no way he's making more then 3 mil anywhere. The one thing we could do is if we can manage the Yi trade and my other theory about gving Hump a job in Proky's co. deosn't work, then do we S&T Favors, Hump, and our late first (I think we might buy #23 so include that or #27) for Bosh and #13.

Yeah I want #13 too because TOR knows they are losing him for nothing so why give up that much.

We are still better off dealing Dooling to a team that can absord him and paying them the buyout.

If we make a larger trade...like the dare we say it CP3 deal (not getting our hopes up) we could include him, give them cash for the buyout...and we dont take the 500K hit to the cap.

As for who has to go....Hump+Yi+#27 or Devin alone. That gets us to a second max.

But, we can dump Hump+#27 and we would be in line for the max Lee can get. Hump and Dooling...very close. David Lee has less than 7 years in, so he isnt in line for the same max. I believe he is a max of 14mil.

That is why I felt...he would be the ideal target...but it comes down to...does that make Lebron happy? Can someone else get him and another tier 1 guy on the same team...while also having a decent supporting cast? Keep your eye on Deng. That could be the ball game if they got the Clips to take that stinky contract.

[SteveNets15]

Yea he'll probably stay fat untill the last year of his rookie contract.Then he'll go on a patrone diet so he can get another deal.If he was shorter i'd be more concerned about his weight but he's tall and is still growing.He might reach 7ft and turn into Shaq with a jumpshot lol na idk if we truly believe he's the bpa talent wise then we should take the chance.I really hope we just trade this pick.

[Basileus777]

The Bull are trading Hinrich and have room for 2 max free agents.

This pretty much **** us.