Wiz Acquire Hinrich, Seraphin, $3M for Veermenko's rights

[Dat2U]

Yeah Dat, that was my first reaction, but Sacramento is ready to do the same thing for the Bulls.

Then let Sacramento do it. Why in the hell are we taking on a two year deal in Hinrich???

[Hoopalotta]

Unless there's a plan to move Gil, we might only have about $8 million in cap space next year when the dust settles after the lockout with a cap in the range of $50 million.

[no D in Hibachi]

This works nicely in conjunction with Arenas for Carter. I really do like a Wall/Hinrich/Young rotation in the backcourt - very complementary. Young starts to get him on track, but Hinrich finishes because he's a heady veteran who can defend.

It'll be interesting to see who we draft at #17. Alabi is probably the best fit.

Yup, good-bye Arenas. This is the only logical thing that I can think of. Areans is a better version of Hinrich and all three are about 6'3'' who are more PG's than shooting guards.

[nate33]

So how much does the 17th pick cost us? About $20 mil. You do the math. Sounds like EG drastically overpaid again. What a shock!

Well, Hinrich has tangible value. If nothing else, he's movable next year.

[Dat2U]

Ernie, your the freaking worse. I hadn't bothered e-mailing Leonsis up until now, but now I can't hold back any longer.

[rockymac52]

No, it's not about the money, that's what you don't seem to get. Listen to what Ted's been saying. We're not pursuing free agents. Not this year, not next year. Maybe if when next year rolled around we had a lot of cap space and Melo wanted out we could go after him, but that's no sure thing by any stretch. Especially amid reports of him signing an extension, as well as Durant.

What is a much more realistic scenario is stockpiling draft picks (again, listen to Ted) and developing our youth. We don't need the cap space that Hinrich's contract will take up. Plus he's only here for two years, he's a solid player, and a pretty good influence. Feel bad for him losing the job to Rose and then Wall, but he's been a good sport about it.

Those 8 million dollars next year weren't going to make the difference, we weren't going to get Carmelo. I wanted to believe in it and have faith, but deep down inside, I just knew it wasn't going to happen. Free agents are stopgap fixes. Sure, Melo's great, and he'd make us a lot better. But we're better off grooming our own talent. "Rebuilding" doesn't mean taking the free agent game off for one year because no one wants to come here anyway and then going back to throwing money at subpar free agents the next year. Have some patience for christ's sake.

Great trade.

[JWizmentality]

I knew it, this was shaping up to be a bad bad day from the start. I think this means Arenas goes. We went from Wall/Arenas to Wall/Hinrich....and possibly Carter. I think my tongue just took a $h*t in my mouth.

[Ji]

Fire EG!

Seriously, WTF! Hinrich has two years on his deal. We hand Chicago ANOTHER max salary slot and all we get is the stinkin 17th pick.

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I can't believe Leonsis would sign off on this.

As I said, I give Ted an F so far

-he kept EG
-He kept the name Wizards
-he allowed our cap space to be eaten by garbage

[AceDegenerate]

I don't see why it means Arenas is gone is guaranteed.

PG-Wall/Hinrich
SG-Arenas/Young/Ross
SF-FA/Thornton/#35
PF-Blatche/#30?
C-#17?/McGee/FA

This team has almost no one under contract, Hinrich should not be starting regardless.

[WizKit]

I think this is a good pick up. Hinrich can defend, shoot the long ball and run a team. This spells the end for Foye and Livingston. I bet all we had to give up was some cash.

[Dat2U]

So how much does the 17th pick cost us? About $20 mil. You do the math. Sounds like EG drastically overpaid again. What a shock!

Well, Hinrich has tangible value. If nothing else, he's movable next year.

Tangible value? What in hell does that mean? Chicago had to use a pick to dump him. He'll be no more moveable than any other overpaid player with two years left on his deal.

[nate33]

Bottom line: Melo looks like he is not an option.

I'd rather have Hinrich + #17 + $8M in cap room next year than $16M in cap room and no one to spend it on. I think Hinrich is a very good fit character-wise. He will help instill an emphasis on defense and hustle. We've got a lot of young guys to groom. We need one or two guys like Hinrich to set the tone.

We still have $12M in cap room right now so it's not like we won't be able to make opportunistic Trade Deadline deals later this year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

My first thought is that I like it. Hinrich is the perfect leader for a young team and a great complement to Wall.

My second thought is that we will really try hard to dump Arenas now. Our crowded backcourt just got more crowded.

My third thought is that this derails any plan to go after Melo unless we can dump Arenas for some cap relief.

Good thoughts all, nate.

Not sure that I like this move. Can't believe that this was the best deal out there...

Honestly, this is the kind of thing Ernie would do.

Gil is going to go for cap relief. Period.

I knew they wouldn't let Gilbert play with Wall. I also knew he'd take on a player like a Mike Miller or Randy Foye.

Well, might as well not lament on that and start to look forward to who they'll get at #17. Hopefully, Dominique Jones or James Anderson.

[rockymac52]

He will actually only have one year left on his deal, and he's a guy who actually has some talent, and could very likely resign for half the price. I'd do it.

[fishercob]

Fire EG!

Seriously, WTF! Hinrich has two years on his deal. We hand Chicago ANOTHER max salary slot and all we get is the stinkin 17th pick.

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I can't believe Leonsis would sign off on this.

As I said, I give Ted an F so far

-he kept EG
-He kept the name Wizards
-he allowed our cap space to be eaten by garbage

HAHA, you're a piece of work! You bitch and moan when the WIz don't make deals on your timeline to acquire picks and then when they do it's a disaster. You're such a sad sack it's amazing.

[Ji]

Well,

we basically acquired Lebron this offseason...........




for the bulls

[JonathanJoseph]

Not sure what you guys are talking about re: Arenas. This has nothing to do with Arenas. Heinrich will be the third guard as you do need more than 2 guards to field an NBA team.

Arenas is not being traded before the start of this season. I hope everyone can get that through their heads. It's just not realistic.

[nate33]

So how much does the 17th pick cost us? About $20 mil. You do the math. Sounds like EG drastically overpaid again. What a shock!

Well, Hinrich has tangible value. If nothing else, he's movable next year.

Tangible value? What in hell does that mean? Chicago had to use a pick to dump him. He'll be no more moveable than any other overpaid player with two years left on his deal.

Tangible value means he's not worthless. It's not $18M for the #17 pick. It's $18M for Hinrich plus the #18 pick. Hinrich is overpaid at $8.5M a year, but he's worth, say, $5M a year. That means we spent $8M on the #17 pick, not $18M.

[KevinFCheng]

2 years on his contract is tough but it's not like Hinrich is a MoPete. He can ball and teach Wall some things on defense and leadership. How I see this is: would you rather have Hinrich and #17 for 17million or Livingston for ~12million. I'll take Hinrich and the 17.

[Dat2U]

No, it's not about the money, that's what you don't seem to get. Listen to what Ted's been saying. We're not pursuing free agents. Not this year, not next year. Maybe if when next year rolled around we had a lot of cap space and Melo wanted out we could go after him, but that's no sure thing by any stretch. Especially amid reports of him signing an extension, as well as Durant.

What is a much more realistic scenario is stockpiling draft picks (again, listen to Ted) and developing our youth. We don't need the cap space that Hinrich's contract will take up. Plus he's only here for two years, he's a solid player, and a pretty good influence. Feel bad for him losing the job to Rose and then Wall, but he's been a good sport about it.

Those 8 million dollars next year weren't going to make the difference, we weren't going to get Carmelo. I wanted to believe in it and have faith, but deep down inside, I just knew it wasn't going to happen. Free agents are stopgap fixes. Sure, Melo's great, and he'd make us a lot better. But we're better off grooming our own talent. "Rebuilding" doesn't mean taking the free agent game off for one year because no one wants to come here anyway and then going back to throwing money at subpar free agents the next year. Have some patience for christ's sake.

Great trade.

It's just not about signing free agents, its about using the cap space to make lopsided deals down the road to acquire talent. EG blew $20 million on the 17th pick in the draft and a guard that hasn't been a reliable offensive player in 3 years.