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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#61 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:46 am

netsfanbq wrote:I don't want to look back in 5 or 6 years and wish we had "Amare Jr" Favors (if he develops) instead of "nice player, Richard Jefferson Jr" Wes Johnson. You can get an RJ, Rudy Gay, Luol Deng, etc...but it is not too often you csan draft a big with Favors' potential.

Exactly.
Johnson IMO will be a very nice player, but he's a two time a draft type that is usually available in trade every year even if you aren't directly in the position to draft him.

Favors, even if ultimately a bust, has off the charts potential and will likely be a hot trade commodity at least his first two seasons and the offseason going into his third based on that fact alone, along with his humble attitude, work ethic, age and physical measures.

I see his floor as a Tyson Chandler type, which would kind of suck as the 3rd pick, but it's not like I'm seeing some Stromile Swift clone garbage as his basement.

And it's also not like Wes Johnson really has perrenial All Star potential either...
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#62 » by enetric » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:01 am

I just dont get why not one media person hasnt said the obvious. Twill...Wes? Why is SF more of a need for us than PF?

I truly feel this the media once again dissing us. Treating us as the step sister like we have no shot at Lebron here.

Did you notice that after the Jalen Rose comments today that listed Lebron leaving for the Bull or Heat...Real Gm felt a need to specifically say...that not only did Lebron's people dismiss Jalen's comments but to go out of their way to say...that the Knicks have not been removed from his list. They didnt feel a need to list us or anyone else....just this need to suck the local tit of board visitor traffic.

In the end? Rod just has to keep doing what he does...and try to make this happen.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#63 » by enetric » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:02 am

poeman wrote:Guys Im a knicks fan...I also think Wes Johnson is the best pick for the Nets...He will be a scoring dynamo in this league...Essentially a star for the Nets



We have a better scoring star in mind, but thanks.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#64 » by kobyz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:31 pm

i don't know who the Nets should pick but you have to say that Harris/Twill/Johnson would be damn fantastic 1-3 combination, very versatile with Defense, Passing, shooting, scoring, penetration.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#65 » by netsfanbq » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:47 pm

kobyz wrote:i don't know who the Nets should pick but you have to say that Harris/Twill/Johnson would be damn fantastic 1-3 combination, very versatile with Defense, Passing, shooting, scoring, penetration.


Those 3 players may all be nice, but that team isn't a winner (and isn't all that capable of banging in a 3-pointer).
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Post#66 » by ib4 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:40 pm

i understand people want to take Favors as insurance if Bosh, Amare, or Booz don't want to sign....but isn't that counterproductive? wouldn't drafting Turner or Johnson TELL those guys that "hey, we drafted a secondary need, we want YOU to sign because PF is our primary need"
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#67 » by netsfanbq » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:53 pm

You can never have enough bigs, especially if Favors is a 2-4 year project. We have Lee and Williams on the wings, and hopefully more to come via FA.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#68 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:52 pm

ib4 wrote:i understand people want to take Favors as insurance if Bosh, Amare, or Booz don't want to sign....but isn't that counterproductive? wouldn't drafting Turner or Johnson TELL those guys that "hey, we drafted a secondary need, we want YOU to sign because PF is our primary need"

No.
Favors is raw, but not as raw as advertised.
He could play both the 4 and the 5 and get 25mpg as that type of two position backup while steadily and slowly bringing him along.
See Harden, James...Thunder, Oklahoma City...
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Post#69 » by ib4 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:07 pm

good point
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#70 » by horaceworthy » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:46 pm

enetric wrote:I hate it when players hold teams hostage. Hate it. But you know what? Tic toc. Tic toc. Tic toc.

But dont be as naive to think this is all going pefectly for your team. Tic toc..tic toc...goes the Rubio trade value clock.

I don't get it. Is this counting down to when Rubio's trade value will go away, or to when there's a reasonable buy-out in his contract/no threat of NBA lockout and he's more likely to come over. You know, when his trade value will likely increase because the waiting period will go from 1-2 years to the start of the next NBA season.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#71 » by demens » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:49 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
ib4 wrote:i understand people want to take Favors as insurance if Bosh, Amare, or Booz don't want to sign....but isn't that counterproductive? wouldn't drafting Turner or Johnson TELL those guys that "hey, we drafted a secondary need, we want YOU to sign because PF is our primary need"

No.
Favors is raw, but not as raw as advertised.
He could play both the 4 and the 5 and get 25mpg as that type of two position backup while steadily and slowly bringing him along.
See Harden, James...Thunder, Oklahoma City...


Says who? After the BS all over the news in the last 2 days i dont believe a word out of anyone, thats including Polinsky who is the only person to say so. Bottom line is that Favors did not impress anyone in his work outs. Thats why he is no longer an option for the Sixers, even if he was a very unlikely option. And thats why there was this lunacy about drafting Wes 2 days ago and today Thorn saying he is now ok with trading down. The only reason we have him over Cousins is because of position, that is it. He is exactly as raw as advertised. He will bring nothing more that someone like JJ Hickson could bring and thats only assuming someone will be there to make plays for him like Lebron.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#72 » by Jersey Generals » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:58 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:He could play both the 4 and the 5 and get 25mpg as that type of two position backup while steadily and slowly bringing him along.


Yup, that's what makes Favors a good pick: he has the ability to guard fours and fives, it looks like.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#73 » by Tekkenlaw » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:24 pm

HotShots wrote:Thorn is trying to get Ricky Rubio. Minnesota really wants Wess. We put word out there we are going to take him and maybe Minnesota will make a deal. Swap picks plus rights to Rubio. So we still get Favors and Rubio.
You're nuts if you don't think the Wolves would be perfectly content taking Favors in that scenario.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#74 » by Calinks » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:53 pm

When I'm right I'm right.
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Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson 

Post#75 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:23 am

horaceworthy wrote:
enetric wrote:I hate it when players hold teams hostage. Hate it. But you know what? Tic toc. Tic toc. Tic toc.

But dont be as naive to think this is all going pefectly for your team. Tic toc..tic toc...goes the Rubio trade value clock.

I don't get it. Is this counting down to when Rubio's trade value will go away, or to when there's a reasonable buy-out in his contract/no threat of NBA lockout and he's more likely to come over. You know, when his trade value will likely increase because the waiting period will go from 1-2 years to the start of the next NBA season.



Or, when he simply says...screw you! I am not playing for you and its all over ESPN and people offer you a half eaten donut and a cup of coffee and whoever has Kahn's job by then says...you know...I like donuts. i dont know who planted that thought that his trade value will go up because he is closer to coming.

Out of site out of mind in this league. Tiago Splitter was once projected as a top 3 pick.

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