Rumor Luke Babbit Martell Webster SWAP

slinky · Post #41 » by **slinky** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:20 am

I refuse to beleive that Webster will stay here, or at least that there isn't more coming back, like a future 1st. If the wolves wanted a shooter, they would have kept babbit, better shooter smaller contract...

hondaaccord · Post #42 » by **hondaaccord** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:24 am

"T'Wolves pick up three small forwards who can't create their own shot in Wes Johnson, Martell Webster and Lazar Hayward. Makes no sense."

Draftexpress....

I hope you guys are not that incompetent

JMillott · Post #43 » by **JMillott** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:30 am

Foye wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Brightside:

We went from having the worst set of wing shooters in the NBA to possibly the best

Kahn's drafting is so one-dimensional.

Last year that PG stuff, this year SF's.

God forbid that the GM has actively addressed the biggest problem position on the roster each of the past two years. You may think Gomes is better then Webster but it's not just about what a player can produce.

Webster is a true SF/SG and Gomes was and always will be a PF/SF tweener. This guy is one of the better back up SF/SG around has a reasonable deal and is a three point specialist who can take over games from deep.

Was Gomes going to be happy or useful playing 15 minutes a game behind Wes Johnson? No, was he going to take minutes at PF on a team that should get all 48 of its minutes at PF from Jefferson/Love?

I like the new lineup much better and I love that should they look to make a significant signing that it seems obvious they'd now pursue a Joe Johnson and not a Rudy Gay.

Breakdown777 · Post #44 » by **Breakdown777** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:32 am

Babbitt could've been the next Wally. 90% FT, 50% FG, and 40% FT in college. Those numbers would've dropped probably, but still, he was an incredible value at 16 and we trade him for an often injured/semi-defensive and semi-athletic SF. I'm very down on Kahn right now. Gopher, bust out that old Avatar until further notice.
I can't wait to hear him explain this crap on PA tomorrow.

hondaaccord · Post #45 » by **hondaaccord** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:32 am

Webster is not a shooting guard. He can't dribble. Webster is also a bad shooter. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Post #46 » by **revprodeji** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:37 am

bri wrote:Why not just take James Anderson though? He can shoot and is younger and cheaper.

Webster is worlds away a better defender than Anderson. (And athlete too)

16 for Webster is ok for me. Adding Gomes makes me upset.

JMillott · Post #47 » by **JMillott** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:47 am

Again someone please explain how this is worthy of anger?

PG Flynn Sessions with Rubio waiting in the wings
SG Brewer Ellington Webster
SF Johnson Webster Hayward
PF Jefferson Love with Pekovic waiting in the wings
C Millic Jefferson with Pekovic waiting in the wings

They owe only the future 1st they owed when Kahn got the job and the roster has almost nothing but movable assets and has caproom. He hired a respected coach and put respected people around him.

They are in worlds better shape then they were two years ago and haven't given up anything of meaningful value during that time.

moss_is_1 · Post #48 » by **moss_is_1** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:49 am

Idk why everyone likes Babbit so much, dude can't defend for crap, and against bigger competition he was nothing. I like this trade quite a bit actually.

PHTown · Post #49 » by **PHTown** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:51 am

I live in Portland and have watched a ton of Martell. This trade is f**king (Please Use More Appropriate Word). He fits the T-wolves mistake profile. He is a good personality, but is totally inconsistent and totally not worth his contract.

Kahn just traded two guys with the same value for one. Babbit is the same as webster for a third/fourth of the cost.

Horrible, Horrible move, and I don't even hate webster. Guy is just overpriced(4.5 mil. a year I think) and inconsistent. Horrible. Horrible. One of my female friends want to marry him. But Horrible, horrible.

PHTown · Post #50 » by **PHTown** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:53 am

JMillott wrote:Again someone please explain how this is worthy of anger?

PG Flynn Sessions with Rubio waiting in the wings
SG Brewer Ellington Webster
SF Johnson Webster Hayward
PF Jefferson Love with Pekovic waiting in the wings
C Millic Jefferson with Pekovic waiting in the wings

They owe only the future 1st they owed when Kahn got the job and the roster has almost nothing but movable assets and has caproom. He hired a respected coach and put respected people around him.

They are in worlds better shape then they were two years ago and haven't given up anything of meaningful value during that time.

If have to explain to you why that is aweful than I don't think it is worth even talking to you. If you want to win 30 games a year, conratulations.....you win! Yay!

boogydown · Post #51 » by **boogydown** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:01 am

Terrible for Minny.

Your GM is worse than McHale.

moss_is_1 · Post #52 » by **moss_is_1** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:03 am

PHTown wrote:I live in Portland and have watched a ton of Martell. This trade is f**king (Please Use More Appropriate Word). He fits the T-wolves mistake profile. He is a good personality, but is totally inconsistent and totally not worth his contract.

Kahn just traded two guys with the same value for one. Babbit is the same as webster for a third/fourth of the cost.

Horrible, Horrible move, and I don't even hate webster. Guy is just overpriced(4.5 mil. a year I think) and inconsistent. Horrible. Horrible. One of my female friends want to marry him. But Horrible, horrible.

Babbit can't defend me. Webster is better then him, I really like this deal.

Post #53 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:04 am

RicBucher Also have to believe Babbitt/Gomes for Martell Webster was not a KP pick. It makes no sense. No relief + a lesser/less proven shooter. less than a minute ago from web · FLAG

Sephiroth · Post #54 » by **Sephiroth** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:06 am

One would think the 16 for at least the Spaniard Sensation in Rudy Fernandez...jeez. WTF is Kahn doing? I will quit as a Wolves fan and as a Christian if this is what the Wolves have by the beginning of next season.

chuckerz · Post #55 » by **chuckerz** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:18 am

In Webster's defense, he's a decent player. He just didn't get a good chance to display his skills because he was playing behind Brandon Roy, Nicolas Batum, Rudy Fernandez. Not to mention that he was injured too and didn't get a lot of playing time.

Post #56 » by **The J Rocka** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:22 am

If Kahn trades Al for some BS or other players for some other BS. Im done.

Post #57 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:27 am

I could see Webster having a similar surprise impact as Milicic.

Swimmer · Post #58 » by **Swimmer** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:32 am

chuckerz wrote:In Webster's defense, he's a decent player. He just didn't get a good chance to display his skills because he was playing behind Brandon Roy, Nicolas Batum, Rudy Fernandez. Not to mention that he was injured too and didn't get a lot of playing time.

That's his defense? That he became a second/third/fourth string, can't earn playing time, and gets injured?

moss_is_1 wrote: Babbit can't defend me. Webster is better then him, I really like this deal.

But Webster is already "fairly paid." Babbitt is on a rookie contract. Gomes is a super expiring. That's two positive assets for a neutral one.

JMillott wrote:Again someone please explain how this is worthy of anger?

PG Flynn Sessions with Rubio waiting in the wings
SG Brewer Ellington Webster
SF Johnson Webster Hayward
PF Jefferson Love with Pekovic waiting in the wings
C Millic Jefferson with Pekovic waiting in the wings

It's worthy of anger because we didn't take Cousins, Anderson, James, Pondexter, Crawford, Orton, Whiteside (all depending on who you are/like), and didn't trade up for someone like Henry/George, and traded for Webster instead of Fernandez. Also, we took 3 SFs, all of whom cannot create their own shots/make plays, to go with Ellington and Brewer.

Post #59 » by **The J Rocka** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:45 am

I honestly thought we would have traded with Indy for George, or draft Anderson, even draft Whiteside at 30.

allweneedisLOVE · Post #60 » by **allweneedisLOVE** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:45 am

Holy fail