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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors 

Post#1621 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:08 am

Ford tonight pre-trade....


Dont know if anyone posted this.....

Hawks take Damion James. I think that he was great value at 24. He's not a big upside guy, but he's tough.
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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors 

Post#1622 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:10 am

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deviljets7 wrote:I don't think not paying for mid-2nd rounders says anything for or against his commitment to winning.


I think it certainly does. Now, instead of having our choice of who to fill out the roster with, we have to get D-leaguers or non-drafted players. Joy.




I think you are deciding in your head what went down and saying this blames anyone here.

Rod may have a better plan...or Rod felt there was no one worth while. I dont think its fair to just say...the guy who is 18th on the richest list said...NO you cant spend to buy picks.

I just dont think that's fair to assume that is how it went down...or that somehow this is a sign that we arent committed to winning.
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Post#1623 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:11 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:True story?


Yes, true story, though I admit I just said he wanted the Knicks as a joke.

He originally asked about the Knicks, and Dolan was willing to sell the team, but only if Proky bought the Rangers, as well. Proky thought this was too complicated as he only wanted the Knicks, so he said no and walked away, and that's when Ratner went to him and begged him to bail him out. Oops, I mean, Ratner raved to Proky about how well an arena in Brooklyn would be for the bottom line. :lol:
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Post#1624 » by Jersey Generals » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:12 am

enetric wrote:I think you are deciding in your head what went down and saying this blames anyone here.

Rod may have a better plan...or Rod felt there was no one worth while. I dont think its fair to just say...the guy who is 18th on the richest list said...NO you cant spend to buy picks.

I just dont think that's fair to assume that is how it went down...or that somehow this is a sign that we arent committed to winning.


I didn't assume. I said I was skeptical, meaning I'm questioning whether it was Proky or Thorn.
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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors 

Post#1625 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:20 am

Yeah, no matter what, one of two things went down tonight:

A) Front office incompetence

B) Owner being cheap

It's really that simple.
You can choose for yourself if you want to personally make a big deal about it, but whatever spin someone may try to put on it, one of those two things happened tonight.
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Post#1626 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:26 am

Givnoy....and other tweets of interest tonight.....


T'Wolves pick up three small forwards who can't create their own shot in Wes Johnson, Martell Webster and Lazar Hayward. Makes no sense.
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Don't understand why Damion James is slipping. Portland should take him here at 22. They liked him. Problem is they have Gomes+Babbitt.


Indiana confirms they are keeping Paul George....No trade to NJ like some reporting. Really really happy for them. He's gonna be a star.
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NBA exec just texted me: "Pritchard just got 2 top 10 guys in the draft and then got fired!"
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Here's where the draft really starts. #3. Favors it is. He could still get traded in July I hear. Glad we moved that. Still 3/3.
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RT @WojYahooNBA Despite drafting Greg Monroe, Pistons aren't done trying to pry DeMarcus Cousins out of Sacramento, league sources say.
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Post#1627 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:33 am

Also heard that GS has a trade offer on the table to move Gadzuric and Biedrins to Denver for Kenyon Martin. Can't be done till August 22nd.
12:17 AM Jun 24th via UberTwitter



Apparently Minnesota is offering 16+23+Al Jefferson to Detroit for 7+Tayshaun Prince+Chris Wilcox. Not sure Detroit goes for that...
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this last one is a Demens lovetrain combo trade.
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Post#1629 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:05 am

enetric wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx6djaY1r0s



Doesnt look out of shape.

BTW, David Kahn should be fired...
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Post#1630 » by Pugsley_2491 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:08 am

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Favors will be an absolute STUD. Even sooner than most think. I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people this year.
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Post#1631 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:13 am

my only real concern with him is how damn melo he is. I havent found anythning anywhere where he gets fired up or looks to be agressive. Inthe NBA...you better go strong or you will be an afterthought. That is the biggest question I have. Will he not only be an athlete...will he become a lion?
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Post#1632 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:15 am

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It wound up differently than people expected. Derrick Favors' selection was hardly a surprise. He had been projected as the Nets choice ever since the Draft Lottery and while some might have preferred DeMarcus Cousins or Wesley Johnson, the Nets liked him from the beginning.

He likes them too. "They’re ready to move in a different direction from last year," Favors said after being selected at #3. "They’re ready to improve, ready to contend for an NBA championship in a few years. It just means I have a bullseye on my back. I have to put in a lot of work."

While some draftniks suggested he's not much more than an asset in a July sign-and-trade, Avery Johnson made it clear he sees Favors as "a prototypical power forward".

The big surprise was the trade for Damion James, a 6'8", 225 pound combo forward from Texas. He hadn't been seriously discussed as a Nets pick, at least by the draftniks. But apparently, he had been on the front office radar for a while, with one insider noting that he had been projected by some (HoopsWorld) as a lottery pick and in most mocks between #14 and #17. When they saw him fall to #24 and when some of their favorites get picked ahead of schedule, they made the deal...and were happy with it. He was an 18 and 10 guy in the Big 12, where was the conference's all-time leading rebounder.

One reason: they like his story, growing up tough in Nacogdoches, TX. That's where he watched the draft. "I'm feeling kind of dazed right now," James told a Texas newspaper. "Oh, man, it's great."
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Post#1633 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:21 am

Damion James can be a really solid player, I still don't agree with the fashion in which we acquired him.
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Post#1634 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:50 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Damion James can be a really solid player, I still don't agree with the fashion in which we acquired him.



Well, we would have liked for them to use cash and then keep the 2nd rounder. Not sure why they didnt since the 2nd was sold anyway. But now that I have watched some video, I actually really like what I see....got some Marion in him. And saw that he was 17th on both mocks for DX and nbadraft.net....

I feel OK with the value of what we got for our picks if it werent for the duh factor that we could have used cash and kept 31 for a guy like Whiteside. At 24 he makes 350K less than the 17th pick where he should have gone. Sounds odd to think about that...but at this stage? Every damn penny counts.
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Post#1635 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:22 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:I'm trying to think of a player to compare him to and I'm drawing a blank.

Maybe an unbathed, homeless man's Marion.

From page 101 or 102 I believe, with a sprinkle of post trade shock pessimism. :wink:
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Post#1636 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:44 am

So we are on the same page...good. I have to tell you...not using cash over the 31st pick aside....I have gone from annoyed about the trade to excited about what we got here. To hear that they used 27/31 to get the guy who was 12th on their big board...love that. LOVE THAT. And getting him at the rate of a 24th pick...excellent. So? I can get over the 31 snafu. Maybe they can still buy a couple of picks. At the very least...could help with an S&T deal later.


Now that Avery Johnson is in charge, there would seem to be an emphasis on Texas Tough.

So the Nets made Damion James their second addition from the 2010 NBA Draft last night, because they think the University of Texas senior might be one of the toughest guys who has ever passed through their gym.

James was picked 24th by Atlanta last night, but the Nets obtained him for their two later draft slots (Nos. 27 and 31).

The powerfully built small forward is the best rebounder in Big 12 history, and at 6-7, 225 pounds, has a reputation for being able to guard three positions.

This pick came out of nowhere, with good reason.

“We thought (he) would go 12; or if he didn’t go 12, we thought he would go 14,” Johnson said. “When that guy started sliding down to 24, we felt anyone who had a chance to get him (should grab him).

“He’s very talented and he can come and play minutes at the three positions right now. He’s tough, hard-nosed, and for a team that couldn’t play much defense last year, you’ve got to get some guys that can help you on that end of the floor.”

Though he averaged a double-double last year (18 ppg, 10.3 rpg), James has a reputation for being a streaky shooter, and only hit 63 percent from the line last year.

• Late into the evening — approaching midnight, actually — the Nets were still trying to bag a second-round pick, which is very valuable nowadays because it doesn’t show up on a team payroll until after free agency.

Presumably, that was the reason the team did not make president Rod Thorn available to the media.

• A mid-afternoon Yahoo.com report had the Nets and Pacers discussing a Larry Bird-conceived exchange in which Devin Harris, Yi Jianlian and the No. 3 pick would go to Indianapolis for Danny Granger and the No. 10 pick.

The Nets shot it down, because they didn’t want to go into the offseason with their biggest hole at the point guard position, and because Granger happens to play the position of their No. 1 free agent target — LeBron James.

But the move would have allowed the Nets to shave another $2.06 million from their payroll, boosting their free agent bankroll to roughly $29.3 million.

• Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov was in the country yesterday, but not in the area. He accompanied Russian president Dmitri Medvedev to Washington, met briefly with Barack Obama, and attended the U.S. Chamber of Commerce symposium held a block away from the White House.
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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors 

Post#1637 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:16 am

Been playing with the numbers forthe last hour. And I have come back to basics here. there are onl ytwo moves presented so far worth considering and both make us strong players for Lebron regardless of what the Bulls may or may not do with Hinrich.

1- We get rid of Yi/Hump/Dooling.

2- Or, try to execute the Paul trade and keep Yi. if they force us to take Okafor we need to move: Devin, #3, Dooling and Hump.


Move 1 gets us in line for two max tier one contracts. Done...make your pitch for Lebron and whoever he can get to come with him. Dont care. go down the damn list...Wade, Bosh, another big...even JJ...fine...whatever done.

Or, move two we trade for the first star in Paul and go recruiting for Lebron that way. if we strike out, that's still a move I can live with. And I believe World Wide Wes on this one. Get Paul...odds go up. Even more so than one of the free agent big men.


Both moves seem worth exploring. We are loaded with picks the next couple of years. if you have to spend some of them to make either of these deals then do it. And dear lord...HUMP....DONT BE A HUMP. OPT OUT damn it! That would be step one in either move. Dooling is not an issue.

Get working on Yi Rod.
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Post#1638 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:22 am

I'm beginning to think, no CP3, no FA's.
I think without him we are relegated to David Lee and/or Rudy Gay.
Melo is inching closer to inking that extension every day as well...
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Post#1639 » by enetric » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:45 am

Well that's panic. I am not there yet. The numbers say...shouldnt be there yet.

But...I have to say....you too with this Rudy Gay crap????

Why? Over pay him so Memphis wont match? Seriously...why is Gay even being discussed by anyone on this board in any context?

He will either be in Memphis next season or some team out there is going to give him a stupid contract offer. I have always liked Rudy...but for the life of me...cant understand why anyone looks at a high cost RFA and says.....ooooh yeah give me some of that. It never works out.
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Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors 

Post#1640 » by SpeedyG » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:41 am

Need to calm down with the lack of purchasing 2nd round picks. We already have a young roster as it is, and adding more young flawed 2nd round prospects really isn't going to help this team's bottomline.

We continue to groom Devin, Twill, Favors, and Brook...and hope for the best in Free-agency. Ideally, we can land a true starting SG...and push Courtney to the bench along with Damion James.

Again, not concerned with the lack of 2nd round picks. The bottom of this roster will be taken care off once the big splash of FA is done.

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