The Official: 2010 Offseason Thread

[bryant08]

^Wow, just saw that.

[sh00n]

Spells the end of Gonchar. Wonder if they can get anything of substance for his rights now.

[Snayr]

I doubt it, no team wants to trade for his rights because he's wanting a 3 year 15 mill contract.

[SSUBluesman]

So why did the Pens do this? They gave up a 3rd for a guy who clearly wasn't going to sign with PHI, far more than what PHI gave up. They have to be certain of signing him, I can't imagine that they think they're going to get more in return than PHI for his rights, especially after 2 teams were unable to meet his asking price. I really question this move for PIT.

[timd1218]

So why did the Pens do this? They gave up a 3rd for a guy who clearly wasn't going to sign with PHI, far more than what PHI gave up. They have to be certain of signing him, I can't imagine that they think they're going to get more in return than PHI for his rights, especially after 2 teams were unable to meet his asking price. I really question this move for PIT.

I'm not a Dan Hamhuis fan but remember, Ray Shero was the assistant GM with Nashville when Hamhuis was on the team. They are both familar with each other. Also, anything about Philly meeting Hamhuis demands are crap. His agent came out and said both him and GM Holmgrem did not talk specifics about money and length of contract. Hamhuis didn't sign with Philly because he wants to be a Top 3 d-man on the team he goes to and he was afraid playing in Philly, he'd be 4-5 and not getting much minutes. This was a very dumb trade by Philly because if the Pens sign him, which I believe Shero will do, then Philly just made the Pens better without having to outbid any other team.

Also the 3rd is for next year, and as it stands right now, next year's draft is not deep at all.

And good riddance to Gonchar. That Game 7 against Montreal sealed the deal for me with Gonch. He is getting old, fast and losing his skill.

I also love the Pens 1st round pick. The needed someone like him in the system. Hopefully, Shero can trade Gonchar for a pick and try and turn that into a 2nd this year. Lots of good players left on the board.

[timd1218]

Spells the end of Gonchar. Wonder if they can get anything of substance for his rights now.

Not true. I wish it were but Shero has said he is going to try and sign both Hamhuis and Gonch. I believe Hamhuis will be the priority and if he can get him to sign for what Shero values him, he'll go hard after Gonch. Hope not, but there was an article about it this morning in Pittsburgh.

[timd1218]

Byfuglien is not going to be the best power forward in the league nor will he be top 5. He had 1 good post season. That is it. He was awful during the regular season and didn't he start the playoffs on d because he couldn't crack the forward line up?

To me, he isn't worth a 1st rounder and prospect, which is what I heard Bowman wanted. You have to be able to perform in the regular season to be worth that.

And you don't have to play in front of the net every game in the regular season but you have to be consistent at it and Buff isn't. He's had 1 good playoff run so far playing with some really good players. Lets see him do this again before he is treated like a playoff god.

No. He played D because if you recall Campbell was still injured for like 2 or 3 games into the post season. He would have been in Rinne's face from Game 1 if Campbell would have been ready to go by the first game.

He's had 2 good playoff runs. He pretty much singlehandedly eliminated the Canucks two years in a row. That has to count towards something.

He doesn't play every game in the regular season in front of the net. He sporadically plays there on Quenneville's orders, because as I've said earlier there is no way his body would up to that kind of punishment. But as far as his play on the wing, you won't find many Blackhawk fans who disagree with you when you say that he is wildly inconsistent.

All thing's considered from the perspective of him being traded to a playoff contender, yes I believe that he is worth a 1st round pick and a prospect. Nobody is saying that Byfuglien can do it all by himself, but on a playoff contender he will help you WIN in the playoffs which is the most important thing right after you actually make it to the playoffs. Its no guarantee that a prospect or a 1st round pick will actually ever amount to anything.

Byfuglien can help a playoff team RIGHT NOW. The keyword being "playoff", which is why I think from the perspective of a team that is unsure if it'll even make the playoffs, its not a smart move for them. The Thrashers aren't in a position where they should part with picks, and top prospects for a player like Byfuglien who is only useful in a playoff run. They only missed by 5 points, but lets see how they do without one of the Top 5 players in the game for over half the season.

I forgot about Campbell being injured.

Anyway, I still don't think Buff is worth what Chicago originally wanted from him.

Pierre Lebrun wrote an article about this trade and spoke with 3 NHL Executives. They are couldn't believe Chicago got what they did for Buff.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog/_/name/lebr ... -thrashers

Three NHL executives I spoke to Tuesday said they didn't think the Chicago Blackhawks GM could fetch a first-round pick for Dustin Byfuglien,

Buff reminds me of Fernando Pisani.

[sh00n]

Tim Thomas just waived his no trade clause.

Gagne for Thomas coming up?

[Celtics_Champs]

Friggen awesome. I loved timmy. But there is no need for a back up goal tender to be getting that much money.

Is it gagne? I heard that or other variations that involve carter.

[sh00n]

Friggen awesome. I loved timmy. But there is no need for a back up goal tender to be getting that much money.

Is it gagne? I heard that or other variations that involve carter.

I've heard Thomas for Gagne straight up, and Thomas/Wheeler/Boychuk for Carter +

They said San Jose might be in on it too.

[sh00n]

Whoa, they traded Sobotka to St Louis too? What the hell?

Also, they're saying Savard is 99.9% likely to be traded soon, and he said he wants to go to Montreal or Chicago. I can't see either team being able to put a good package together.

[Celtics_Champs]

This is terrible. Please don't trade him to montreal. I'll cry.

I don't want to get rid of savard at all. He's been the heart of this team these last few years. Too many centers is not problem

[Snayr]

Too many Centers may be a problem, but where's the logic in trading your BEST center? There is none, lol. I know this the "Salary cap era" but getting rid of Savard is just a STUPID stupid idea if you're the Bruins.

Mind you I'm a Habs fan, and despise the Bruins so... Savard to Mtl!

[Celtics_Champs]

So, apparently Savy wants to go. Something about him getting upset with this organization after the playoffs.

[sh00n]

So, apparently Savy wants to go. Something about him getting upset with this organization after the playoffs.

Well seeing as they've been openly shopping him and whoring him out to other teams, I'd see why he's upset.

I still think they should trade Krejci instead, but that's just me, I guess.

I can't see Montreal offering up anything unless

A) There's a 3rd team involved
B) Gomez gets traded

Because we'd be pretty cluttered at C too if Savard managed to land in Montreal: Gomez, Plekanec, Savard, Lapierre, Eller, Pyatt and possibly Metro and Moore.

[sh00n]

http://www.csnphilly.com/06/26/10/Sourc ... feedID=704

Philly landed Nabokov's rights. If they can't sign him (I don't see them having enough cash to), San Jose gets nothing. If they do sign him, SJ gets a 7th rounder.

[Celtics_Champs]

Damn it!

[Griff83]

Whoa, they traded Sobotka to St Louis too? What the hell?

Also, they're saying Savard is 99.9% likely to be traded soon, and he said he wants to go to Montreal or Chicago. I can't see either team being able to put a good package together.

No he didnt.

He just waived his no trade clause and the only two teams he's willing to go to are Ottawa and Toronto.

[sh00n]

Whoa, they traded Sobotka to St Louis too? What the hell?

Also, they're saying Savard is 99.9% likely to be traded soon, and he said he wants to go to Montreal or Chicago. I can't see either team being able to put a good package together.

No he didnt.

He just waived his no trade clause and the only two teams he's willing to go to are Ottawa and Toronto.

Yeah, and when I posted that the teams that were listed were Montreal and Chicago. Not my fault the journalist ****ed up.

[Nolan]

Hamhuis' rights traded to Pens. Hot damn.

Wow looks like Gonchar days in a Pens uniform are done. If they can sign him it'd be a great pickup.