2010 NBA Draft Thread: Nets Select Derrick Favors

[Aussie 2point0]

NBA.com says we drafted Turner with the number two pick! Nearly jizzed in my pants. Then scoured the web. Turns out we only traded up from our 2nd and 3rd pick. Oh well did someone say Hassan Adams?

[ChampionRed]

Need to calm down with the lack of purchasing 2nd round picks. We already have a young roster as it is, and adding more young flawed 2nd round prospects really isn't going to help this team's bottomline.

We continue to groom Devin, Twill, Favors, and Brook...and hope for the best in Free-agency. Ideally, we can land a true starting SG...and push Courtney to the bench along with Damion James.

Again, not concerned with the lack of 2nd round picks. The bottom of this roster will be taken care off once the big splash of FA is done.

I agree completely, Speedy. Also I never got the love affair with Jordan Crawford. He's a chucker that can do anything else but "shoot".

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[mikhailjordan]

You guys are overblowing the second round pick thing. Mikhail Prokhorov has stated he wants to build a financially sustainable winner.

His expenditures when buying the Nets / helping the move to Brooklyn have been tremendous and they're only going to grow in free agency.

No need to throw away another couple million on players who typically don't pan out.

also, @ e -

I'm convinced you won't even have to overpay (that much) to get Rudy Gay. Memphis is bluffing with there "we will match any offer" BS.

[Preludepunk27]

Need to calm down with the lack of purchasing 2nd round picks. We already have a young roster as it is, and adding more young flawed 2nd round prospects really isn't going to help this team's bottomline.

We continue to groom Devin, Twill, Favors, and Brook...and hope for the best in Free-agency. Ideally, we can land a true starting SG...and push Courtney to the bench along with Damion James.

Again, not concerned with the lack of 2nd round picks. The bottom of this roster will be taken care off once the big splash of FA is done.

I agree completely, Speedy. Also I never got the love affair with Jordan Crawford. He's a chucker that can do anything else but "shoot".

You know I was thinking the same thing. I was SHOCKED when I ready here and on NetsDaily how many people were pissed we moved Crawford. Guys like him are a dime a dozen. I don't get it. Even in his highlights when he got drafted I kind of laughed because A LOT of his shots in the clips looked like ill advised shots when others were clearly open. Yeah it's nice to have a guy off the bench line that...but guys like him can be found around every corner. If he had true size with the ability to effectively play the 2 and 3 spot, I may have thought twice about it, but we can get a guy like him in the open market. A guy with the leadership, ability to play/defend multiple positions, play with an in-control yet aggressive and actually step out to 20' range like Damion James is harder to find than a 2 guard chucker like Crawford.

[SpeedyG]

my only real concern with him is how damn melo he is. I havent found anythning anywhere where he gets fired up or looks to be agressive. Inthe NBA...you better go strong or you will be an afterthought. That is the biggest question I have. Will he not only be an athlete...will he become a lion?

That is my concern as well, and why I still had a part of me leaning towards Cousins (who is the anti-thesis of that of course, very demonstrative).

By the way, I've been holding this comparison back, because I REALLY REALLY REALLLLLLY hate to compare a young raw player like this to a HoF guy. But as I've said before, i don't see the Dwight comparison...he lacks his explosiveness and power...same as Amare (not as explosive/skilled), or Garnett (lacks the emotion, feel for the game offensively). So...who am I getting to?

Great, great athlete, but I never considered elite explosive. Not much of a power guy, but has a lot of finesse (but can power it time and again if opportunity presents itself). Very agile and smooth for his size. Good fitness level. Rebounds and defends. 6'9 when he first played in college, grew to 7'0 after four years. Can shoot from mid-range.

Listed height/weight: 7'1, 245 lbs (obviously this has changed over his course of career)

And he wears #50.

And he was criticized for being too nice sometimes on the court.

[Preludepunk27]

David Robinson?

I saw Favors play a handful this year, but that name never popped into my head. What we have to remember is the kid is 18 and (I think) the youngest player in the draft his year. He's still developing as a player. While Robinson had a more polished offensive game coming out of college, he was also older so it's hard to compare in my head.

Ask me who I'd compare Favors to when he's 22 years old. I am happy with the pick regardless. I'm just waiting to see if he's on our team in October, let alone talk about who he reminds me of.

[SpeedyG]

David Robinson?

I saw Favors play a handful this year, but that name never popped into my head. What we have to remember is the kid is 18 and (I think) the youngest player in the draft his year. He's still developing as a player. While Robinson had a more polished offensive game coming out of college, he was also older so it's hard to compare in my head.

Ask me who I'd compare Favors to when he's 22 years old. I am happy with the pick regardless. I'm just waiting to see if he's on our team in October, let alone talk about who he reminds me of.

That's exactly what I'm getting into, and why I'm very reluctant to bring up the comparison. But athletically, demeanor wise, body wise, that's who I see. Of course, we can't project the trajectory that Favors will take from now at the age of 18 to 22 (when Drob entered the league, and really had a much more refined game by then).

I would LOVE if Avery called up his old buddy and asked him to be our big man coach. A mini-version of Admiral/Fundamental frontcourt duo would be an awesome building block for this franchise.

[vincecarter4pres]

Well that's panic. I am not there yet. The numbers say...shouldnt be there yet.

But...I have to say....you too with this Rudy Gay crap????

Why? Over pay him so Memphis wont match? Seriously...why is Gay even being discussed by anyone on this board in any context?

He will either be in Memphis next season or some team out there is going to give him a stupid contract offer. I have always liked Rudy...but for the life of me...cant understand why anyone looks at a high cost RFA and says.....ooooh yeah give me some of that. It never works out.

Not really a fan of the moves, was just saying that was my feeling, or fears.
I doubt it though.
More of a knee jerk reaction last night.

[amk482]

you guys have any faith in us being able to move dooling, hump and yi for cap space? Obviously we could add $3M and draft picks.

[SAUCERY_SWEET]

I love the Crawford brothers tag in the A, thanks for that.

[Basileus777]

From Draft Express:

Brian Zoubek will play summer league with the New Jersey Nets in Orlando.

[enetric]

Need to calm down with the lack of purchasing 2nd round picks. We already have a young roster as it is, and adding more young flawed 2nd round prospects really isn't going to help this team's bottomline.

We continue to groom Devin, Twill, Favors, and Brook...and hope for the best in Free-agency. Ideally, we can land a true starting SG...and push Courtney to the bench along with Damion James.

Again, not concerned with the lack of 2nd round picks. The bottom of this roster will be taken care off once the big splash of FA is done.

I think I would have liked the picks because I wanted more tradeable assets and a way to fill in empty spots when we are done. Since they have no cap hit...it seems like a good move to help us move out Yi, Hump if he needs an escort and even Dooling.

And while I am now very excited with what we got with the second pick....I have to admit...if the Hawks simply sold the 31 for cash...why couldnt we give them the cash with the 27 and keep the 31? That would have been nice and take the best non guaranteed guy left on our board...whoever that was?

So in that regard...while i think some are blowing it out of proportion...I am in sync with that aspect of it.

[enetric]

You guys are overblowing the second round pick thing. Mikhail Prokhorov has stated he wants to build a financially sustainable winner.

His expenditures when buying the Nets / helping the move to Brooklyn have been tremendous and they're only going to grow in free agency.

No need to throw away another couple million on players who typically don't pan out.

also, @ e -

I'm convinced you won't even have to overpay (that much) to get Rudy Gay. Memphis is bluffing with there "we will match any offer" BS.

No way to know what the Grizz will do. But for sure they can take a week to match and tie up your cap. He isnt going to get a low ball offer. No RFA who has ever left his team has ever been had for a bargain...again...see Kmart who we had no intention of matching yet he got an absurd deal and we got three #1's for doing an S&T to make it more absurd....and Rashard Lewis who also got an S&T to make his deal more absurd.

RFA signings are typically a waste. To just think hey he will bluff...and that they will get jack out of it? Not a good strategy. Waste of time to act like Rudy is like any other FA out their. he is NOT your typical fall back option.

[enetric]

David Robinson?

I saw Favors play a handful this year, but that name never popped into my head. What we have to remember is the kid is 18 and (I think) the youngest player in the draft his year. He's still developing as a player. While Robinson had a more polished offensive game coming out of college, he was also older so it's hard to compare in my head.

Ask me who I'd compare Favors to when he's 22 years old. I am happy with the pick regardless. I'm just waiting to see if he's on our team in October, let alone talk about who he reminds me of.

That's exactly what I'm getting into, and why I'm very reluctant to bring up the comparison. But athletically, demeanor wise, body wise, that's who I see. Of course, we can't project the trajectory that Favors will take from now at the age of 18 to 22 (when Drob entered the league, and really had a much more refined game by then).

I would LOVE if Avery called up his old buddy and asked him to be our big man coach. A mini-version of Admiral/Fundamental frontcourt duo would be an awesome building block for this franchise.

Well, I know you are not saying this...but obviously Robinson destroys Dwight Howard so hey now! But, I see the Dwight comparison in terms of talents, gifts and short commings more. Certainly not personality...but if he produces? Who cares. And of course I hope he can make some ft''s. Anyway....we have no idea what we have. And honestly? We might have a guy who wont ever play for us if we do this right.

[enetric]

you guys have any faith in us being able to move dooling, hump and yi for cap space? Obviously we could add $3M and draft picks.

I absolutely EXPECT Rod will either move those guys, or make a big trade for a superstar like the CP3 deal. And he wil either make deals....or I think he may have already lined something up and will do them if we can get our FA targets. Doubtful he would wait...but it is possible.

[SpeedyG]

David Robinson?

I saw Favors play a handful this year, but that name never popped into my head. What we have to remember is the kid is 18 and (I think) the youngest player in the draft his year. He's still developing as a player. While Robinson had a more polished offensive game coming out of college, he was also older so it's hard to compare in my head.

Ask me who I'd compare Favors to when he's 22 years old. I am happy with the pick regardless. I'm just waiting to see if he's on our team in October, let alone talk about who he reminds me of.

That's exactly what I'm getting into, and why I'm very reluctant to bring up the comparison. But athletically, demeanor wise, body wise, that's who I see. Of course, we can't project the trajectory that Favors will take from now at the age of 18 to 22 (when Drob entered the league, and really had a much more refined game by then).

I would LOVE if Avery called up his old buddy and asked him to be our big man coach. A mini-version of Admiral/Fundamental frontcourt duo would be an awesome building block for this franchise.

Well, I know you are not saying this...but obviously Robinson destroys Dwight Howard so hey now! But, I see the Dwight comparison in terms of talents, gifts and short commings more. Certainly not personality...but if he produces? Who cares. And of course I hope he can make some ft''s. Anyway....we have no idea what we have. And honestly? We might have a guy who wont ever play for us if we do this right.

I'm mainly comparing body style, athleticism (more finesse, fluid than explosive, powerful), and demeanor. But when I make these comparisons, I only speak of playing style, not necessarily talent wise or skill wise. Obviously, skills wise D-Rob is lightyears away...but I can totally envision Derrick developing that type of game moreso than Dwight's power-inside game or Garnett's outside-in game (with the sick variety of post moves) or Amare's explosive face-up game.

[SteveNets15]

From Draft Express:

Brian Zoubek will play summer league with the New Jersey Nets in Orlando.

Jersey in the house! I wouldn't mind giving him a shot.He could be a good practice player for Brook.We're looking really thin up front these days.I was hoping we would draft another big.

[KiDdFrESh]

Loved the Damion James pick. Was hoping Houston would find a way to grab him. Best of luck to the Nets. Hopefully they make some noise in the FA market.

I'm a big fan of DJ and T-Will so I'll pulling for the Nets next year out East. The only other team I like in the East is the Bobcats so yall need to step it up.

[demens]

Anyone for hiring Kevin Pritchard as Thorn's #2 and eventual replacement? Thorn isn't getting any younger.

A million times YES. Him or Tom Penn or both. Hell, i'd take Kerr and Danny Ferry over Thorn on any day. I'd take David Kahn after today. I'd take Kiki back.

Come on, Khan? He's pissed off every GM in the league and botched two drafts in a row. Kiki can tear a team down, but can he build a winner? He did fall in love with Tskitishvilli (sp?) and then Yi. I like Thorn, but he could always use a good #2 (as could any good GM...)

I was being facetious, but Thorn isn't far off those guys. Kahn is terrible over hated by fans who know pretty much nothing and just follow along with the majority opinion like sheep.