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Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#1 » by cpfsf » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:52 am

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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=1133&line=137141&spln=1

The Blazers plan on releasing Ryan Gomes, who came over in a trade with the Timberwolves on draft day. They're looking to avoid paying him the remaining three years of his contract and Gomes isn't even scheduled to travel to Portland. Gomes is too good a player to sit out for long, so expect him to be picked up by another team this summer.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#2 » by Calinks » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:06 am

So Kahn wasn't lying when he said we made them take his contract. Gomes would be awesome on a veteran team. I can see him in a Spurs jersey.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#3 » by Klomp » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:08 am

We just made a division rival pay 2.75 million to a player not even on their roster. Brilliant!
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Post#4 » by revprodeji » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:08 am

He needs to get on a San An-type team and be the 3/4 off the bench.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#5 » by Klomp » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:08 am

Back to Boston?
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Post#6 » by farzi » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:21 am

Klomp wrote:We just made a division rival pay 2.75 million to a player not even on their roster. Brilliant!


That's not even 2% of what Allen is worth after the recession
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Post#7 » by funkatron101 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:21 am

Klomp wrote:We just made a division rival pay 2.75 million to a player not even on their roster. Brilliant!

Consider it a buyout for Webster and the #16.
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Post#8 » by Foye » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:39 pm

Klomp wrote:Back to Boston?


Likely.
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Post#9 » by Dewey » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:56 pm

revprodeji wrote:He needs to get on a San An-type team and be the 3/4 off the bench.


I can imagine Pop's response after he experiences Gomes lack of intensity first hand ... :D
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Post#10 » by Master Amino » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:03 pm

I could see him going back to Boston. But I hope he ends up on whatever team LeBron chooses.
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Post#11 » by southern wolf » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:55 pm

I agree he's too good of a player to sit out for long. Boston would be a good fit for him.
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Post#12 » by Krapinsky » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:27 pm

See, I don't think his contract had much value, not with other teams under the cap. We might have received another late first for him, but we would have had to take on a bad contract.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#13 » by revprodeji » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:29 pm

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revprodeji wrote:He needs to get on a San An-type team and be the 3/4 off the bench.


I can imagine Pop's response after he experiences Gomes lack of intensity first hand ... :D


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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#14 » by JMillott » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:36 pm

Krapinsky wrote:See, I don't think his contract had much value, not with other teams under the cap. We might have received another late first for him, but we would have had to take on a bad contract.


Exactly, teams did want to save payroll but teams don't want dead money on the books. Getting him and eating 2.75 million over the next three years only is enticing if you're dumping something worse or getting something else really worth having.

I don't see that Gomes contract was more then a piece that was capable of making an offer work under the salary cap.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#15 » by PDXKnight » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:42 pm

Meh, I still like the deal for both teams. We (Portland) were likely trying to get under the lux tax and Martell Webster has never been much of a consistent scoring threat for the Blazers. Perhaps he'll do better with more PT, but with Nic Batum on our roster, Martell became expendable. Minnesota gains a relatively talented 2/3 in Martell, but Portland both saves about 4 million a year and landed a draft pick. Not a bad deal for either side as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#16 » by shrink » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:08 pm

Calinks wrote:So Kahn wasn't lying when he said we made them take his contract.


How can he think that? All we needed to do was trade him to a team over the lux for a POSITIVE asset and an expiring. For example:

MIN GETS: Songalia $4.8 mil exp + future protected 1st (or #11)
NOH GETS: Gomes

2010-11 Savings
$0.8 mil salary difference
$3.0 mil saved by Gomes waive
$2.0 mil saved by no guaranteed salary for the #11
$5.8 mil saved in lux penalties
-0.9 mil min salary players
$10.5 MIL SAVINGS in 2010-11
-1.0 mil 2011-12 guaranted gomes
-0.75 mil 2012-13 gomes
$8.75 mil savings

NOH saves plenty of money, and may save even more as they get close to their goal of being under the lux and getting back an additional $3 mil lux share

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Then even if they do the same bad deal:

POR GETS: Songalia (exp) + #16
MIN GETS: Martell Webster

POR can keep Songalia, or buy him out for a price similar to Gomes in a one-year buy-out. Songalia can catch on elsewhere, so he won't be out money.

MIN still gets Martell Webster, but instead of simply losing the #16, they gain the #11.

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The fact that Kahn didn't see the Gomes contract (or Atkins before him), as an asset represents a dangerous lack of sophistication to the financial aspects of the NBA and the luxury tax.
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Re: Blazers set to release Ryan Gomes 

Post#17 » by Saltine » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:08 pm

It may have been other GMs who didn't see the potential of his deal. I'm not sure why you guys are always blaming Kahn when it takes two to make a deal.

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