Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010
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PF Andray Blatche / Trevor Booker / Camp invite
SF Al Thornton/Raymar Morgan
CE Javale McGee /Eddy Curry/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye
SG Kirk Hinrich/Nick Young/ Quinton Ross
PG John Wall /Jerome Randle
SF Al Thornton/Raymar Morgan
CE Javale McGee /Eddy Curry/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye
SG Kirk Hinrich/Nick Young/ Quinton Ross
PG John Wall /Jerome Randle
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JRYCRL wrote:Dat2U wrote:PF Andray Blatche / Trevor Booker / Minimum vet FA
SF Josh Childress / Al Thornton
CE Javale McGee / Kevin Seraphin / Hamady N'Diaye / Minimum vet FA
SG Vince Carter / Nick Young / Quinton Ross
PG John Wall / Kirk Hinrich / Jerome Randle
Was Foye that bad? I like him. I certainly like him more than Ross. That's a player I see absolutely no purpose for on this team. Any undrafted F.A. guard is a better option though I don't know his contract situation.
Foye was just a bad fit here. Somebody else is sure to offer him more than what we'd be willing to pay. If he'd stay here for the vet minimum, then, sure, I'd love to keep him around.
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JRYCRL wrote:Dat2U wrote:PF Andray Blatche / Trevor Booker / Minimum vet FA
SF Josh Childress / Al Thornton
CE Javale McGee / Kevin Seraphin / Hamady N'Diaye / Minimum vet FA
SG Vince Carter / Nick Young / Quinton Ross
PG John Wall / Kirk Hinrich / Jerome Randle
Was Foye that bad? I like him. I certainly like him more than Ross. That's a player I see absolutely no purpose for on this team. Any undrafted F.A. guard is a better option though I don't know his contract situation.
Ross is under contract. We have no choice on him. He should be listed in everyone's prediction.
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First Team
PG Wall
SG Arenas
SF Either Howard or Thornton
PF Blatche
C Incoming player in deal for Howard or Thornton, Oberto, and Ross
Second Team
PG Hinrich
SG Young
SF Singleton
PF Booker
C Javale McGee
Third
C Hamady N'Diaye
This is my prediction - there are just too many question marks with Childress, Arenas, Carter, Howard, etc. We desperately need a quality player at Forward or Center - a combo of Blatche and McGee will not cut it.
PG Wall
SG Arenas
SF Either Howard or Thornton
PF Blatche
C Incoming player in deal for Howard or Thornton, Oberto, and Ross
Second Team
PG Hinrich
SG Young
SF Singleton
PF Booker
C Javale McGee
Third
C Hamady N'Diaye
This is my prediction - there are just too many question marks with Childress, Arenas, Carter, Howard, etc. We desperately need a quality player at Forward or Center - a combo of Blatche and McGee will not cut it.
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FWIW, here is the salary breakdown so far:
I'm assuming the rookies get the Rookie Scale plus 20% (which is standard). I'm assuming N'Diaye gets the minimum salary on a 3-year deal with the 3rd year a team option (which is also standard, though it probably won't happen until we've had a good look at him in Summer League).
Technically, we can free up about $1M in cap room this year by postponing the signing of all of our rookies until after we've acquired whatever free agents we want. Before our rookies are signed, their cap hit is equal to the Rookie Scale. When they are signed, their cap hit will be their actual contract (which is most likely the Rookie Scale plus 20%). N'diaye won't count against our cap at all until he is actually signed.
Mike Lee appears to be way off on his cap room estimate. He figured about $15M in cap space right now. We're nowhere near that.
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Player 10/11 11/12 12/13 13/14
Arenas,Gilbert 17.73 19.27 20.81 22.35
Hinrich,Kirk 9.00 8.00 - -
Wall,John 5.14 5.53 5.92 7.46
Blatche,Andray 3.26 3.52 - -
Thornton,Al 2.81 - - -
Young,Nick 2.69 - - -
McGee,JaVale 1.60 2.46 - -
Seraphin,Kevin 1.56 1.68 1.80 2.76
Booker,Trevor 1.20 1.29 1.39 2.35
Ross,Quinton 1.15 - - -
N'Diaye, Hamady 0.47 0.79 0.90 -
Free Agent - - - -
Free Agent - - - -
Free Agent - - - -
Free Agent - - - -
2011 pick (#17) - 1.74 1.87 2.00
Total Salary 46.62 44.28 32.67 36.91
Salary Cap 56.10 57.78 59.52 61.30
Luxury Tax 68.44 70.50 72.61 74.79I'm assuming the rookies get the Rookie Scale plus 20% (which is standard). I'm assuming N'Diaye gets the minimum salary on a 3-year deal with the 3rd year a team option (which is also standard, though it probably won't happen until we've had a good look at him in Summer League).
Technically, we can free up about $1M in cap room this year by postponing the signing of all of our rookies until after we've acquired whatever free agents we want. Before our rookies are signed, their cap hit is equal to the Rookie Scale. When they are signed, their cap hit will be their actual contract (which is most likely the Rookie Scale plus 20%). N'diaye won't count against our cap at all until he is actually signed.
Mike Lee appears to be way off on his cap room estimate. He figured about $15M in cap space right now. We're nowhere near that.
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MJG wrote:The only free agents of ours I'd expect to be resigned are Singleton and Martin. That would give us a base roster of Arenas, Blatche, Wall, Hinrich, Thornton, McGee, Ross, Young, Singleton, Martin, Seraphin, Booker, and Ndiaye. I'd say the last two spots will be filled by minimum contracts, one veteran big and on summer league guy. There may be a BOYD guy or two in there somewhere, in which case you can cut out one of the minimum guys or Martin.
I think the injury to Blatche and Seraphin's rawness make it pretty likely that Singleton is resigned.
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I really like Singleton, but I think he's redundant with Booker. I think finding a big who can score is a higher priority than finding another no-offense tweener forward.
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Hoopalotta wrote:A big who can score? Just say yes to Yi!
Yeah, your point is well-taken. Scoring bigs are few and far between. I'm resigned to the fact that we will be unable to find a legit, back-to-basket scorer, but I'd like to at least find a big who can knock down an open 17 footer. If Blatche is hurt or fouled out, we'll want somebody who can spread the floor so Wall and Arenas can penetrate. Even a guy like Scalabrine would be a better fit than Singleton given that we already have Booker, Seraphin and Ndiaye on the roster.
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After the Yi deal, here is an updated swag...
PG: John Wall
SG: Gilbert Arenas
SF: Al Thornton
PF: Andray Blatche
C: JaVale McGee
Bench:
G: Kirk Hinrich
SG: Nick Young
F: Yi Jianlian
F: Trevor Booker
F/C: James Singleton
F/C: Kevin Seraphin
C: TBD (Some veteran F/A acquisition)
Reserve:
PG: Jerome Randle
G/F: TBD
C: Hamady Ndiaye
PG: John Wall
SG: Gilbert Arenas
SF: Al Thornton
PF: Andray Blatche
C: JaVale McGee
Bench:
G: Kirk Hinrich
SG: Nick Young
F: Yi Jianlian
F: Trevor Booker
F/C: James Singleton
F/C: Kevin Seraphin
C: TBD (Some veteran F/A acquisition)
Reserve:
PG: Jerome Randle
G/F: TBD
C: Hamady Ndiaye
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Updated
PF Kevin Seraphin/Trevor Booker
SF Al Thornton/Yi
CE Javale McGee/Hamady N'Diaye/3rd Center
SG Gilbert/Kirk Hinrich/Nick Young/
PG John Wall /Jerome Randle
Reserve
Blatche
PF Kevin Seraphin/Trevor Booker
SF Al Thornton/Yi
CE Javale McGee/Hamady N'Diaye/3rd Center
SG Gilbert/Kirk Hinrich/Nick Young/
PG John Wall /Jerome Randle
Reserve
Blatche
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PG Wall/Hinrich
SG Arenas/Young/Martin
SF Thornton/Booker/Martin
PF Blatche/Yi/Singleton
C McGee/Seraphin*
* I'm not sure about Seraphin. I don't know if he's NBA ready yet. If he isn't, I expect Blatche to spend a lot of time at center with Singleton getting more minutes at PF. I expect Yi to see a fair amount of action early, but by midseason, he'll end up behind Singleton in the big man rotation. He's going to end up with plenty of DNP-CD's. Flip is not going to like him.
SG Arenas/Young/Martin
SF Thornton/Booker/Martin
PF Blatche/Yi/Singleton
C McGee/Seraphin*
* I'm not sure about Seraphin. I don't know if he's NBA ready yet. If he isn't, I expect Blatche to spend a lot of time at center with Singleton getting more minutes at PF. I expect Yi to see a fair amount of action early, but by midseason, he'll end up behind Singleton in the big man rotation. He's going to end up with plenty of DNP-CD's. Flip is not going to like him.
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Closg, according to 82 games, Yi's maybe played about 8 total minutes at small forward over the course of his three year career.
Gonna have to pencil him in at power forward, with the word 'power' not being taken too literally.
Gonna have to pencil him in at power forward, with the word 'power' not being taken too literally.

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I wonder if Singleton's going to want to bolt, though?
Also, I'm wondering if we're planning to bring Seraphin over this year with how things are looking now. I know there's been talk of Booker at small forward, but I'm not sure about that. It is indeed very possible that Blatche is going to play a fair bit of center this year, yes.
So it looks like we have the potential for a great quantity of bigs, but I wonder how many will be here.
But this is a total tank squadron. Even I am almost embarrassed.
Also, I'm wondering if we're planning to bring Seraphin over this year with how things are looking now. I know there's been talk of Booker at small forward, but I'm not sure about that. It is indeed very possible that Blatche is going to play a fair bit of center this year, yes.
So it looks like we have the potential for a great quantity of bigs, but I wonder how many will be here.
But this is a total tank squadron. Even I am almost embarrassed.

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Hoopalotta wrote:I wonder if Singleton's going to want to bolt, though?
I think the only thing that could lure Singleton away would be a 3 or 4 year deal or almost the MLE. The Wizards have his early bird rights and only has a cap hold of 1.33 million. With the early bird rights the Wizards can go up to the average salary(I think it is the MLE). If a team gives him a 2 year/6 million dollar offer. The Wizards could offer 2/8 with only 1 million guaranteed the second year. He would only have to make a million next year if he is waived.
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Hoopalotta wrote:Closg, according to 82 games, Yi's maybe played about 8 total minutes at small forward over the course of his three year career.
Gonna have to pencil him in at power forward, with the word 'power' not being taken too literally.
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If Seraphin comes over and Booker is going to play mostly at the 4, I don't see a spot for Singleton on the roster. Booker as a power 3 is intriguing, although offensively he would have a great deal of limitations. You have to have some depth at the 3 (Cartier Martin, whoever), and probably another guard or two (Jerome Randle, etc.). I would expect the Wizards will carry fourteen players on their roster and keep the fifteenth spot open for injuries or whatever.
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verbal8 wrote:Hoopalotta wrote:I wonder if Singleton's going to want to bolt, though?
I think the only thing that could lure Singleton away would be a 3 or 4 year deal or almost the MLE. The Wizards have his early bird rights and only has a cap hold of 1.33 million. With the early bird rights the Wizards can go up to the average salary(I think it is the MLE). If a team gives him a 2 year/6 million dollar offer. The Wizards could offer 2/8 with only 1 million guaranteed the second year. He would only have to make a million next year if he is waived.
We all watched Singleton and appreciated the intangibles he brought to the team. Everyone else looks at him as merely a 29 year-old journeyman tweener forward who put up some decent rebounding numbers on a terrible basketball team. My guess is that nobody is going to bid much for him and we'll be glad to keep him if the price is cheap.
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Benjammin wrote:Booker as a power 3 is intriguing, although offensively he would have a great deal of limitations.
Don't worry, we've got Yi to spread the floor!
Actually, I could see that working to an extent offensively with Yi and Blatche as shooters.
And when I say "working to an extent" I of course mean with us on the wrong side of 30 point blowouts.

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^^^
I hope you're right Nate about Singleton. If they keep all those bigs that will be a logjam.
I hope you're right Nate about Singleton. If they keep all those bigs that will be a logjam.








