CB4: "Miami is in top contention"

[mopper8]

Raps have all leverage in 2010 free agency concerning Bosh.

lolz

[MVP-3]

Plus, we'll just tell bosh, if you want a 6-year 130 million dollar deal, sign with us, or let us trade you to miami for wade.

If he doesn't agree, Bosh can walk (he wont do that as the new CBA is going to have its effects on max contracts), doesnt matter to toronto cuz we are in rebuilding mode with or without bosh.

Raps have all leverage in 2010 free agency concerning Bosh.

It's been rebuilding mode every year since Carter left it seems like with you guys .

or next years first and their pick back, Riley would be nice to do that because its a big possibility that Toronto is still mediocre by 2014-2015 if Bosh leaves.

No way, in 2014-2015 when they are still tanking I want the #1 draft pick . Give them the thunders second round pick!

[Teddy Bruckshut]

Plus, we'll just tell bosh, if you want a 6-year 130 million dollar deal, sign with us, or let us trade you to miami for wade.

If he doesn't agree, Bosh can walk (he wont do that as the new CBA is going to have its effects on max contracts), doesnt matter to toronto cuz we are in rebuilding mode with or without bosh.

Raps have all leverage in 2010 free agency concerning Bosh.

[Bubstubbler]

You're delusional if you believe Miami with Wade and Bosh are anywhere NEAR the level of talent as LA or Boston. The guy above who says they will fill out their roster with the MLE and LLE to match Bynum and Artest literally had me LOL. Yeah, because players who can match up with them, as well as Rondo, Perkins, etcetera can be had for the MLE or LLE.

Miami wouldn't be 2 studs + scrubs. They would either be 3 studs + scrubs or 2 studs + damn good role players.

Chalmers
Wade
scrub
Bosh
Amar'e

Even without LeBron, I think you're on crack if you think that lineup doesn't have "anywhere NEAR" the level of talent that Boston has. The three best players on the court would all be playing for the Heat. That's an immensely big deal.

[Bubstubbler]

You're delusional if you believe Miami with Wade and Bosh are anywhere NEAR the level of talent as LA or Boston. The guy above who says they will fill out their roster with the MLE and LLE to match Bynum and Artest literally had me LOL. Yeah, because players who can match up with them, as well as Rondo, Perkins, etcetera can be had for the MLE or LLE.

If Miami only signed 2 superstars (Wade and Bosh) and instead spread that remaining cap space around on good role players, they could afford to keep Beasley, sign Haslem and Hayward, and then sign 5 rookie min players to round out the required roster slots.

Chalmers
Wade
Beasley
Bosh/Haslem
Hayward

That squad would be a match for Boston. Be better if the Heat could swap Beasley for a sf or pg, though. Hmm...

To Memphis: Joe Johnson/Beasley/Chalmers
From Memphis: Randolph/Mayo

To Miami: Mayo
From Miami: Beasley/Chalmers

To Atlanta: Randolph
From Atlanta: Joe Johnson

Memphis
Conley/Chalmers
Johnson
Gay
Beasley
Gasol


Miami
Mayo/
Wade/
scrub/
Bosh/Haslem
Hayward


Atlanta
Bibby
Crawford
Smith/Williams
Randolph/Smith
Horford/Pachulia

[Flash3]

Except Beasley is not a SF and can't play SF. He's a PF. -- The stats and his play prove it.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Raps have all leverage in 2010 free agency concerning Bosh.

People still believe this? Oh my

[Tim_Hardawayy]

The guy above who says they will fill out their roster with the MLE and LLE to match Bynum and Artest literally had me LOL. Yeah, because players who can match up with them, as well as Rondo, Perkins, etcetera can be had for the MLE or LLE.

You realize the Lakers signed Ron Artest with the MLE right? Oh and Bynum was drafted, and has been consistently in and out of the Lakers lineup the past 3 seasons. You could easily argue an MLE player could duplicate his production.

But you can continue to literally LOL if you feel like.

[BballFanAddict]

Not a single post in this thread has changed my opinion. Bosh and Wade plus scrubs won't win a title. Bosh, Wade and Amare (as someone above posted) plus 3 scrubs won't win a title either.

Also, if I were Miami I would be wanting Amare over Bosh because Amare is a physical player where Bosh is more finesse. If you all cannot get a legit 7 footer (or 2 to 3 like most legit contenders) then you better not choose the finesse PF to boot.

I love Miami. It's a great place to visit. If I were a young and single NBA player and could choose Miami as a destination I would. I am very confident Miami will lande one of Boozer, Amare or Bosh. However, I am nearly as confident that Riley will not be able to retool the team this year to contend. Too many holes and not enough talent.

It isn't just the best starting 5 that gets you home court and success in the playoffs.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Not a single post in this thread has changed my opinion.

That's kinda how the internet works. I'm much more shocked when someone actually does change their opinion.

[BballFanAddict]

Not a single post in this thread has changed my opinion.

That's kinda how the internet works. I'm much more shocked when someone actually does change their opinion.

Lol. Very true. It is more a test of endurance as opposed to intelligence isn't it?

[richboy]

My bet if Bosh goes to Miami. Beasley will go to Toronto in a S&T. They will use the extra money to try to bring back Haslem.

[cool007]

My bet if Bosh goes to Miami. Beasley will go to Toronto in a S&T. They will use the extra money to try to bring back Haslem.

And why would Toronto want Beasley??? Especially next to Bargnani??? They both are very much same player - if Bosh and Barney didn't work then what makes you think Beas and Barney would work???

They would probably need to do a 3-way deal that is interested in Beasley.

This is why I thought Heat would be better off by trading for Amare with Beas going to Suns.

[Wade2k6]

It makes more sense for Miami to go after the player who will sign out-right (whether it's Bosh or Amare) so they can either use Beasley as trade bait to get their #3, or use him as a scoring spark off the bench.

[fishfuego.]

My bet if Bosh goes to Miami. Beasley will go to Toronto in a S&T. They will use the extra money to try to bring back Haslem.

And why would Toronto want Beasley??? Especially next to Bargnani??? They both are very much same player - if Bosh and Barney didn't work then what makes you think Beas and Barney would work???

They would probably need to do a 3-way deal that is interested in Beasley.

This is why I thought Heat would be better off by trading for Amare with Beas going to Suns.

Because Toronto then will have assets for a future trade in Beasley vs not having anything by just letting Bosh walk for nothing.

It is not a case of Beasley fitting with the team, but the team getting players of some value and potential to obtain pieces that fit.

I'm just amazed about the lack of common sense, or basketball business common sense on this board at times.

[thamadkant]

Bosh is soft for a big man, its a shame he will get close to a MAX if not MAX.

But he is a 6'9 version of Gasol, Gasol is better because the guy is much longer.


I'm not saying Stoudemire is better than Bosh, because by default... Bosh is worth MORE.
When I say by default, it means that Stoudemire's injury history has impacted his worth.

Offensively, Stoudemire is MUCH better suited with perimeter stars like Wade and James. Because Stoudemire is a finisher and puts pressure on interior defense. Bosh will settle for jump shots and when they are missing he isnt good enough defensively or long enough to matter in that end.

Dont be fooled, Bosh and Stoudemire are about as good as each other defensively, and when I say that, I mean they are both crap defensively.

Bosh rebounds more because he puts more effort than Stoudemire... which is a good thing.


But still..... a player like Bosh and Stoudemire need a "banger" dirt worker next to them inside. An Okafor, Noah, B.Lopez or heck even a Foster (Pacers) type.

Bosh/Stoudemire paired with a two-way player like Brook Lopez, who plays INSIDE 90% of the time is best case for him. Noah too.


Wade + Bosh/Stoudemire will not beat the Lakers. They are a dirt working big man away.
If they can get Okafor somehow then it'll fix the problem, in the playoffs length is HUGE and the ability to win "scrappy" is ideal. They also need to add good shooters outside, ala Phoenix system, Toronto's system is trash.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

My bet if Bosh goes to Miami. Beasley will go to Toronto in a S&T. They will use the extra money to try to bring back Haslem.

And why would Toronto want Beasley??? Especially next to Bargnani??? They both are very much same player - if Bosh and Barney didn't work then what makes you think Beas and Barney would work???

They would probably need to do a 3-way deal that is interested in Beasley.

This is why I thought Heat would be better off by trading for Amare with Beas going to Suns.

Because Toronto then will have assets for a future trade in Beasley vs not having anything by just letting Bosh walk for nothing.

It is not a case of Beasley fitting with the team, but the team getting players of some value and potential to obtain pieces that fit.

I'm just amazed about the lack of common sense, or basketball business common sense on this board at times.

He is a Bulls fan, it is in his best interest to poo-poo any idea of Bosh to Miami. Has nothing to do with common sense.

[fishfuego.]

. what the hell with this website

[fishfuego.]

He is a Bulls fan, it is in his best interest to poo-poo any idea of Bosh to Miami. Has nothing to do with common sense.

got ya

[fishfuego.]

He is a Bulls fan, it is in his best interest to poo-poo any idea of Bosh to Miami. Has nothing to do with common sense.

got ya