The Sixerfan1976 Off-Season Thread (Update: Page 61)

[Arsenal]

those minutes look good and all but what about brand?

Just for the future. Year after Brand leaves, whether that is via trade or just letting his contract run out.

Jason Smith will be long gone by then too, so he needs to be replaced in that rotation. Meeks probably won't be around then either. Of course, neither of those guys really matters, as both are easily replaceable during any given offseason. Also if Iggy is still around I seriously doubt he'll only get 32 mpg.

Depending on player development that rotation could be nice, but it desperately needs a banger type of PF / C who can defend, block shots, and rebound. Of course, that's the same thing we need right now...

[ZarcMumoff]

those minutes look good and all but what about brand?

Just for the future. Year after Brand leaves, whether that is via trade or just letting his contract run out.

Jason Smith will be long gone by then too, so he needs to be replaced in that rotation. Meeks probably won't be around then either. Of course, neither of those guys really matters, as both are easily replaceable during any given offseason. Also if Iggy is still around I seriously doubt he'll only get 32 mpg.

Depending on player development that rotation could be nice, but it desperately needs a banger type of PF / C who can defend, block shots, and rebound. Of course, that's the same thing we need right now...

Smith can be re-signed for a vet min. Same with Meeks. But they are easily replaceable.

Iggy isn't going to be #1 anymore...he'll be #3 if that. 32 is fine for him.

Greg Smith is a banger, although he isn't a great shot blocker, he is still a very good tough big down low. He was only a freshman this year, and I think he could have a very good season next year.

Everything is hypothetical though so it doesn't really matter.

[Do the Jrue]

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Can't believe you called dude Greg Smith.....

[sweetlou23]

Honestly, I rather keep everyone right now. Especially Kapono and Green just so we are firmly below the Tax Threshold. That was a huge reason why the 76ers didn't try to get another 2nd because it could end up screwing up the Luxury Tax. So by just letting Kapono and Green expire, it should help out that situation. I would be fine with the Foster/Kapono deal if that did happen just because the financial room would still be there. But I don't want to just rid them to get a "band-aid" type of big man.

It seems like our three youngest trade chips (Young, Lou, and Speights) have all been working pretty hard for this off-season. Young, as Collins said, put on 10 pounds of muscle and is now 6'8 (Although I don't think he is that tall) 230, and is still a superb athlete. Lou and Collins have been talking, and Lou seems on board with coming off the bench if he is given the chance to start. And Collins seems to have a liking for Lou. Then you have Speights who, from what I read, had a "intervention" so to speak after the season about his weight issues. Speights, from reports seems had at work, and that is great for the 76ers because, in my opinion, he is the most important part to this team. He can be a young low post scoring option that we need.

I do hope we keep these guys, especially Speights and Young, because it is unfair to banish them just because of EFJ. Give them a try with Collins, and see what happens. I think both could have very nice bounce back seasons. Just look at what could be a future roster...

Jrue (35)/Lou (10)/Turner (3)
Turner (28)/Lou (12)/Meeks (10)
Iguodala (32)/Young (14)/Turner (2)
Speights (32)/Young (13)/J. Smith (3)
Hawes (24)/*Greg Smith (18)/J. Smith (6)
*2011 Draft Pick for hypothetical reasons

That is a good, young talented team.

Starters: You have your leader, and floor general in Jrue. Your #1 option who can drive at will and hit the mid-range in Turner. A very good defensive, athletic SF who can give you 16/6/6 every night in Iguodala. Speights gives you a very good offensive post presence, who can hopefully give average D. You then have Hawes who can be productive on the offensive end for a center.

Back ups: Lou can come in and play the 1 or 2 and give 20 minutes a night, hopefully he can improve his 3-Point shot. Meeks comes off the bench for 10 minutes or so to give a 3-Point threat. Thad comes in and can play SF and PF for about 27 minutes gives you a mismatch either way on the offensive end, and hopefully can end up being a good defender. Greg Smith is a 6'10 250 C/PF from Fresno State. Really tough, hard working, high motor type of player. And you have Jason Smith who can bring another motor off the bench.

Point is, I just don't see why we would have to ship Thad off. I'll happily take him off the bench, and if he shows that he can play SF, then you can ship off Iguodala for the right deal. But there is nothing wrong with him coming in off the bench. If we want to win, we are going to have to spend money, period. We can't be afraid too. Same with Speights and Lou. Plus, build for the future...who cares if we don't have a center for the 10/11 season? I'm sure he isn't going to make us contenders. Just go with the young guys, and see what you got.

Whole bunch of stuff from me, but just my opinion.

Looks good on paper, but there is no way you get everybody on the same page regarding those minutes. you are cutting dre's minutes by seven and lou's by eight. neither one of them are going to be happy with that scenario. Also, i think there are too many people logging minutes at multiple positions. It seems to me that that could get a little confusing. at some point you have to decide who your horses are. also, lou shot 34% from thee point land this year if he gets up to 38% and still shoots 52% from two point land you either have to play him more minutes or trade him. Thad may be a starter at the three or the four. It makes sense to figure out what his role is going to be so that he can focus on one or the other.

sitting tight until the trade deadline approaches make sense but at that point you have to make a decision who to keep.

[bdownbear]

I'd rather create cap for Dwight Howard.

[ZarcMumoff]

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Can't believe you called dude Greg Smith.....

What? You can't believe I called dude Greg smith? What do you mean?

[LongLiveHinkie]

What are the names out there you guys are interested in for big men?

Also, SF: are the Sixers only interested in defensive bigs or just guys they like in general?

[Negrodamus]

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Can't believe you called dude Greg Smith.....

What? You can't believe I called dude Greg smith? What do you mean?

I think you mean Craig Smith but I could be wrong. I don't know anyone named Greg Smith in the NBA.

[ZarcMumoff]

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Can't believe you called dude Greg Smith.....

What? You can't believe I called dude Greg smith? What do you mean?

I think you mean Craig Smith but I could be wrong. I don't know anyone named Greg Smith in the NBA.

I said he was a 2011 NBA Draft Prospect, twice.

[Mahorn at the 4]

PHILADELPHIA - Evan Turner is a leader. It’s no coincidence that many compare the second pick in the draft to Portland’s Brandon Roy. But the Sixers are an undisciplined tangle of perimeter players, including one (Andre Iguodala) who is about as uncoachable and uncontrollable as it gets.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bask ... rticleFull


SF,

Where is Murphy getting this uncoachable and uncontrollable info on Iguodala? Does the 6er front office feel this way? If so, it may explain the trade talk.

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[b]PHILADELPHIA - including one (Andre Iguodala) who is about as uncoachable and uncontrollable as it gets.

I guess he forgot to add at the end of that sentence "when coached by Eddie Jordan".

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Well, you had the top-2 contenders for the Sixers job Collins and Mitchell talking about how Iguodala should be more of a slashing wing. Frankly, that's quite embarassing for a player that a coach knows your strengths MORE then you do. But remember, we heard after the playoffs that Miller and Iguodala were upset because Brand was billed as the "face of the team" and both of those guys felt they've been here longer and deserved that.

So Iguodala does have an ego, all may be forgiven and forgotten due to the "culture change", but does Iguodala sense the urgency to change the flaws in his approach to the game?

[Court_visioN]

prior to last season, Iguodala WAS a slashing wing. And a damn good one.

[STChaser]

I'm also curious as what big men we're looking at. My vote is for Ian Mahinmi and then Amir Johnson, though I think Mahinmi, at 6'11 is the better option. Have you heard any news about this kid SF? I posted an article earlier about our new assistant coach, Snyder and the fact that he's worked with Mahinmi when he was an assistant coach with San Antonio. I hope that connection can pay off for us. Here is an article about our team's needs. Pretty good take on things:

http://www.libertyballers.com/2010/6/7/ ... he-rundown

I like the idea of adding Shaun Livingston as a reserve PG. I'd love to get rid of WG and bring in Livingston. It would allow us to use Lou as a backup SG because of Livingston's height.

And here is their list of available big men: Brendan Haywood, Amir Johnson, Johan Petro, Hilton Armstong, Ian Mahinmi, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Patrick O'Bryant, and Darko Milicic.

Here's a great clip of Mahinmi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR59Fga7NLc

I could live with the following lineup next season:

PG: Holiday, Livingston
SG: Turner, Lou, Carney
SF: Iguodala, Young, Carney
PF: Speights, Brand
C: Hawes, Mahinmi, Smith

This lineup gives us two decent PG's, plenty of scoring at SG, more than competent SF's with Iguodala and Young, a decent PF in Speights assuming he can get back to 100% and play some D, and size at the 5 with Hawes as well as a project 23 year old athletic freak in Mahinmi - another big body to put on Howard, Bynum, Perkins, etc.

[Negrodamus]

Here's a name that some of you may or may not know that I am interested in this offseason. Earl Barron from the Knick. He spent the beginning of his career at the NBDL and was a good worker type player. He played well enough to be called up to the Knicks and has been impressive (including a 17 and 18 game against the Celtics I believe). He isn't going to jump out of the gym and he isn't going to drop 30 on you, but he is a hard working 7'0 that apparently could play 44 minutes against a playoff team like the Celtics. He is the type of player this team needs. A guy willing to do the dirty work and set screens for the players who are good at putting the ball in the hole. He understands his role and would fit nicely here. I can't imagine he would be too expensive to pick up.

[PhilasFinest]

yea Barron would be nice....

any big body thats gonna give us energy off the bench imo.

Barron, Mahinmi, Anthony would all be good pickups.

[Philly KDub]

Barron would be a nice addition to the team. The same can be said about Anthony. It seems like Miami won't re-sign Anthony. This would be a good opportunity for the 76ers to get him for cheap. He works hard and play hard nosed D.

[sem3376]

Iggy is an athelete that plays basketball as opposed to a basketball player who is a great athelete. That's what seperates him from the greats.

[Do the Jrue]

Seriously though? Earl Barron and Joel Anthony? How about saying no to drugs? We might as well pick up DJ Mbenga if you wanna spend the last of the cap space we have on a bum that won't play. Isn't Hilton Armstrong a free agent? I wouldn't mind him, he didn't get too much of a shot on the Hornets because of David West and Okafor

[corwin]

Didn't know Armstrong was out there. He would be OK if he'll play for the vet's minimum. Maybe not though if the vet's minimum puts us over the LT.