Dampier's $13,000,000 contract is not guaranteed at all. I just did a little bit of research. It looks like a team can waive Erick and none of the contract will hit the cap at all the way his contract was set up for the 10/11 season.
Do you think Mark Cuban would throw us a bone again? We could do this on July 1st (can't include Hump in a deal back to Dallas until then) and do Yi/Dooling/Hump/GSW's Pick/Cash for Dampier.
Then immediately waive him and getting us under the cap for 2 max deals.
a) Can someone tell me if Dampier's contract works like this? From what I read, he can be cut on July 1st and nothing from his contract would go towards our cap.
b) Do you think Cuban would help us and would this be enough for him to do it?
c) Am I losing my mind?
During the draft last night it dawned on me about how much talk there was about Dampier's contract at the deadline last year and now knowbody is mentioning it. Cuban doesn't feel he was fleeced in the Kidd deal. He has gone on record repeatedly that he feels both teams improved. That could be complete BS, but I think we can work something out.
Just a thought. I'm still at work and my brain if fried.
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I expect they will use Dampier to get themsevles something more valuable is te honest answer.
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Considering Dallas is over the luxury tax (and would have to pay double), they're better off cutting Dampier than taking on our contracts.
With so many teams choking in their finances and/or luxury tax, I expect DAL to get a starting caliber player with Dampier's contract.
With so many teams choking in their finances and/or luxury tax, I expect DAL to get a starting caliber player with Dampier's contract.
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The DUST chip will yield serious return, believe that...

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1 - Yes Dampier's contract is over $13M, and can be waived at no cost
2 - No the Mavs won't be using it to do some other team a "favor"
3 - In all likelihood the Mavs will use it to trade for a player or players they really want
4 - As recently as draft night, the Mavs are aiming all their efforts in being a MAJOR player this summer, and the DUST chip is a significant part of that thinking and planning
For the original article that created the nickname the DUST chip and started all the furor, that's been referenced by ESPN and others explaining one way it can be used, with references to more uses, read here >> http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=1810
with further explanations and analysis here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=3040
and here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=2225
and here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=3059
2 - No the Mavs won't be using it to do some other team a "favor"
3 - In all likelihood the Mavs will use it to trade for a player or players they really want
4 - As recently as draft night, the Mavs are aiming all their efforts in being a MAJOR player this summer, and the DUST chip is a significant part of that thinking and planning
For the original article that created the nickname the DUST chip and started all the furor, that's been referenced by ESPN and others explaining one way it can be used, with references to more uses, read here >> http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=1810
with further explanations and analysis here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=3040
and here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=2225
and here http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullArc ... hp?id=3059
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Um.... Dallas just rejected a Deng for Dampier deal the other day. This trade idea is a joke.
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vandyman22 wrote:Um.... Dallas just rejected a Deng for Dampier deal the other day. This trade idea is a joke.
Dallas can do better then what was proped the other day...but pointing to the Deng thing? Deng is NOT worth his contract. I dont think was a great example.
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I'm reading on the WT that Dallas is gonna try to nab JJ in a S&T with Damp's contract. Obviously I was forgetting who Dalla's owner is (Cuban) which I apologize for. E said it best that he could actually get Value from Damp's contract. JJ is good value. If they could swing that, that's a great deal. I hope they can resign Haywood too.
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So many ways they can go with that. They could add Butler to the deal and take back a multi year contract the Hawks might want to get rid of a that stage. Like Zaza, Bibby or Marvin Williams Waive Damp...and move forward with smarter payroll and a strong replacement for JJ in Butler. Better thna seeing him walk outright.
Or, they could look to take back some combo of Roddy B, Barea, picks...not all of that....but something with Damp. They would have cap space for next year in either deal.
One way or the other...Dallas is interesting. I am surprised I havent heard Amare as a target yet. I just see him there. Fit or not...I just see it.
Or, they could look to take back some combo of Roddy B, Barea, picks...not all of that....but something with Damp. They would have cap space for next year in either deal.
One way or the other...Dallas is interesting. I am surprised I havent heard Amare as a target yet. I just see him there. Fit or not...I just see it.
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Amar'e in Dallas would be very interesting. He would have to play center, but you would have him running the break and the pick and roll with Kidd. Still not a great fit and they would still lack a real 2 guard, but JJ isn't really a great fit neither.
They'll go after Lebron and Wade as well, even if it they are long shots.
They'll go after Lebron and Wade as well, even if it they are long shots.

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Obviously I meant at center. That team would be a beast. Amare and JJ both have their warts...but I think Amare there would be something to see. If they really were willing to pay the big bucks for JJ...why not S&T with Butler? The Suns are less likely to want Butler if you ask me. I think Damp, picks and prospects would suit them fine if they lose Amare. Sarver always seems to be looking for a reason to save cash. Take Damp...there is your out.
OK just dreaming of a West coast team with any balls to beat Kobiatch. Perhaps the long term payroll expectation might be too much to even ask of Cuban.
OK just dreaming of a West coast team with any balls to beat Kobiatch. Perhaps the long term payroll expectation might be too much to even ask of Cuban.
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deviljets7 wrote:Considering Dallas is over the luxury tax (and would have to pay double), they're better off cutting Dampier than taking on our contracts.
They could do that without being the Nets' santa claus though.
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verrazano wrote:deviljets7 wrote:Considering Dallas is over the luxury tax (and would have to pay double), they're better off cutting Dampier than taking on our contracts.
They could do that without being the Nets' santa claus though.
Reading comprehension FTL.

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