Stephen A. Smith says LeBron and Bosh to join Wade in Miami

jumpman28 · Post #61 » by **jumpman28** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:14 pm

Wow farzi just got called a Lakers fan, them is fightin words.

fishfuego. · Post #62 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:26 pm

HootieRules wrote:
Miklo wrote:I dunno, yeah they get the MLE's but with 3 max contracts, your cap gets out of hand quickly. I'd much sooner get 2 maxes and use the rest of the cap space to legitimately fill out the roster. I do agree all 3 would be beastly, but I'd much rather do Wade/Bosh or LBJ/Bosh and have room to really build around them.

I don't think Miami's owner is bashful about spending, correct me if I'm wrong

Good players will be lining up to take the minimum. They'll have no problems filling out the roster.

The owner Arison has mentioned many, many times, that he is willing to excel the cap at whatever cost to get the right players on his team, and money he has plenty.

You are correct, the role players will come in a bunch to play in such team for a year or so, as their value will sky rocket for their next FA paycheck .. winning creates value, and they will be seen as the right pieces for another team starving for the missing piece/talent. Nothing better than to be on the spotlight as part of a top team.

It will be a continuos year to year rotation of FAs looking to up their future value or looking to win a championship, and make no mistake, they will have a list to chose from.

rockymac52 · Post #63 » by **rockymac52** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:32 pm

^ or they make do for the time being, and in the future they add in draft picks (we're talking the 25-30 range, so, role players, PERFECT!) and free agents for the MLE. The MLE can net you a solid player for a few years, and I'd imagine that the guys that would go to that hypothetical Miami squad for the MLE would be talented, but would also know that they're there to be a role player, not to take shots and get good stats.

Dr Aki · Post #64 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:37 pm

CITYOFANGELSX3 wrote:3 max players on 1 team? Is that even possible? lol

The rest of the roster will be scrubs or people close to the minimum and the MLE.

Or according to flash3, Any free agent vet is gonna go to miami for the minimum to chase a ring..

um...

lakers? kobe, pau, bynum

celtics? KG, PP, rayray?

Malinhion · Post #65 » by **Malinhion** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:42 pm

I'll believe it when I see it.

Until then I'll laugh at the crybabies whining about a hypothetical from an irrelevant D-rate media psychopath.

GameOver25 · Post #66 » by **GameOver25** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:45 pm

C'mon SAS you're better then this...

fishfuego. · Post #67 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:50 pm

rockymac52 wrote:^ or they make do for the time being, and in the future they add in draft picks (we're talking the 25-30 range, so, role players, PERFECT!) and free agents for the MLE. The MLE can net you a solid player for a few years, and I'd imagine that the guys that would go to that hypothetical Miami squad for the MLE would be talented, but would also know that they're there to be a role player, not to take shots and get good stats.

Exactly, the toughest part would be to assemble a team with such top players, given the rarity of them being FAs at the same time coupled with a team having the cap to sign them etc. Once you pass that huddle, the rest is gravy.

sheepwarrior · Post #68 » by **sheepwarrior** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:53 pm

I don't see it. This would ruin Lebron's legacy. Can his ego handle it?

fishfuego. · Post #69 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:03 pm

sheepwarrior wrote:I don't see it. This would ruin Lebron's legacy. Can his ego handle it?

There is no such thing as a set blue print for a so called legacy. Legacies are created by winning first. At the end no one knows what type of legacy will be created nor which event will create the value to such legacy.

However, winning is a must.

SDChargers#1 · Post #70 » by **SDChargers#1** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:14 pm

1) I don't believe this is happening!

2) If it did happen, I guarantee all 3 of those stars numbers go down. Gone would be the days of 30/7/7 from Lebron. There just simply wouldn't be enough shots to go around. Just look what happened when the Lakers brought in Payton and Malone, both Kobe and Shaq's numbers plummeted. It would be the same, except you have 3 egos in their prime.

Heat3 · Post #71 » by **Heat3** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:24 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
sheepwarrior wrote:I don't see it. This would ruin Lebron's legacy. Can his ego handle it?

There is no such thing as a set blue print for a so called legacy. Legacies are created by winning first. At the end no one knows what type of legacy will be created nor which event will create the value to such legacy.

However, winning is a must.

Exactly. It certainly hasn't hurt Bill Russell for playing with several hall of famers.

SDChargers#1 wrote:1) I don't believe this is happening!

2) If it did happen, I guarantee all 3 of those stars numbers go down. Gone would be the days of 30/7/7 from Lebron. There just simply wouldn't be enough shots to go around. Just look what happened when the Lakers brought in Payton and Malone, both Kobe and Shaq's numbers plummeted. It would be the same, except you have 3 egos in their prime.

Points would go down but assists would go way up! If he'd focus on rebounds he could average a triple double!

fishfuego. · Post #72 » by **fishfuego.** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:26 pm

SDChargers#1 wrote:1) I don't believe this is happening!

2) If it did happen, I guarantee all 3 of those stars numbers go down. Gone would be the days of 30/7/7 from Lebron. There just simply wouldn't be enough shots to go around. Just look what happened when the Lakers brought in Payton and Malone, both Kobe and Shaq's numbers plummeted. It would be the same, except you have 3 egos in their prime.

The World knows these players can score huge numbers when they are asked to. Sure their numbers will probably go down, but that is a tiny price to pay, considering what the big picture is.

Numbers will always be second to winning.

Post #73 » by **kyphi** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:27 pm

all this is is Smith wanting to be relevant and in the news. I doubt ANYBODY believes him.

An Unbiased Fan · Post #74 » by **An Unbiased Fan** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:31 pm

One major problem is Wade's health. His style of play makes him somewhat injury prone. Even Bosh still hasn't played a full 82 game season. If they go the 3-max route, that team will be screwed bigtime if they face any injuries at all.

I also wonder how all 3 would work together. Players regress playing next to Lebron, will he be happy averaging 23/7/5?? Will Wade be happy dropping to the 22 ppg range? will Bosh be happy being the 3rd wheel when recent comments suggest otherwise?

And one last thing, how does this team match up against the Magic, Lakers, or any team with a decent frontcourt?

Rambo44 · Post #75 » by **Rambo44** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:34 pm

Lots of people are saying this would ruin LeBron's legacy. I STRONGLY disagree. This absolutely will not ruin LeBron, or anyone else's legacy. If anything, it is going to create the greatest most memorable story in sports history ever. That's what these guys have a chance to do.

1. Going to Chicago would ruin his legacy. He will forever be compared and contrasted with Michael Jordan. It's a discussion LeBron will never be able to win. Going to New York would ruin his legacy. Half of the NBA press comes from NYC and he will be scrutinized and be miserable. All the attention is on the Knicks, but that is not a good thing when it puts such immense pressure on the players that they simply aren't happy anymore.

2. You need a championship coach. How many minds are there in the NBA that have lead teams to championships? There are very few. Phil Jackson. Doc Rivers. Greg Popovich. Larry Brown. Pat Riley (who said he is willing to come out of retirement). These are the only coaches to win a championship since over 15 years ago.

3. You need to team up with other stars. Like the Lakers and Celtics, and to an extent the Magic. These are the only successful teams in the leagues, the ones where a few stars aligned.

As far as legacy goes, if these guys join, it will be the most incredible sight to see ever. They will break records and win championships. It will be the most powerful dynasty in sports history. And everyone would remember the Amazing Trio: LeBron James, Chris Bosh, and Dwyane Wade. The greatest legacy ever, of putting egos aside and teaming up to form the most powerful team in the history of sports.

Now, it's still speculation at this point. So we'll have to see...

verbal8 · Post #76 » by **verbal8** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:37 pm

jts10 wrote:If LeBron wants to be the first billionaire NBA player then the team salary of 20-26 million each year isn't going to get you there. First you have to be a winner, then people around the world buy your products. Then sponsors come at you from all sides giving you money.

I think if LeBron wants to maximize his future earning potential, the Nets may be the best bet. However he would have to endure 2 years of being in NJ and having a cast worse than in Cleveland. The pluses of going to the Nets would be have a billionaire mentor as an owner(Mikhail Prokhorov), being teammates with Yi would give him media exposure in China(like TMac as Yao's teammate). Rod Thorn's retirement is likely a concern to LeBron.

I think the lack of talent on the Nets and the stadium situation for the next 2 years stop LeBron from making the jump now. However LeBron may take a less than max length deal to get the option to jump in 2 or 3 years when they are in Brooklyn and Prokhrov's track record is known.

Heat3 · Post #77 » by **Heat3** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:37 pm

Wade has had 2 injuries in his career. One as a rookie when no one knew who he was and one in 2007 which was just a freak injury. He came back too soon for the playoffs and the result was the injury continued into the following season. Since then he's been healthy.

HootieRules · Post #78 » by **HootieRules** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:38 pm

SDChargers#1 wrote:1) I don't believe this is happening!

2) If it did happen, I guarantee all 3 of those stars numbers go down. Gone would be the days of 30/7/7 from Lebron. There just simply wouldn't be enough shots to go around. Just look what happened when the Lakers brought in Payton and Malone, both Kobe and Shaq's numbers plummeted. It would be the same, except you have 3 egos in their prime.

That's a bad comparison. That team was a mess. I don't think you will see any of them average in the 30s anymore but I don't think their numbers are going to take a major dip either. Keep in mind they'll probably play a lot more up-tempo too which Wade and LeBron have really never done in their careers.

sheepwarrior wrote:I don't see it. This would ruin Lebron's legacy. Can his ego handle it?

I think LeBron will be just fine winning titles for the next decade and cementing himself as one of the top 5 players of all time. He'll still put up his numbers. He was never going to be the GOAT anyway.

HootieRules · Post #79 » by **HootieRules** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:40 pm

An Unbiased Fan wrote:One major problem is Wade's health. His style of play makes him somewhat injury prone. Even Bosh still hasn't played a full 82 game season. If they go the 3-max route, that team will be screwed bigtime if they face any injuries at all.

I also wonder how all 3 would work together. Players regress playing next to Lebron, will he be happy averaging 23/7/5?? Will Wade be happy dropping to the 22 ppg range? will Bosh be happy being the 3rd wheel when recent comments suggest otherwise?

And one last thing, how does this team match up against the Magic, Lakers, or any team with a decent frontcourt?

NADALbULLS · Post #80 » by **NADALbULLS** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:45 pm

LeBron's career averages are better than Jordan's (in most aspects), so he would be the GOAT if he got 6 rings and continued winning MVPs every year. He can afford for his scoring to go down a bit even, because it will raise his fg% at the same time and his assists probably won't drop much, and his rebounds may actually increase if he plays PFs in his 30s when he's less mobile.