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I'd love to have David Lee.
His height is irrelevant, Amare is a turnstile even when he's trying and Lee is a vastly superior defensive rebounder, which more than makes up for any difference in their defensive ability.
He plays well at speed, finishes well around the rim and this year, he displayed a really good perimeter J from 16-23 feet from the rim (and he was using it a lot). He's also a good passer.
He's basically tailor-made for this offense and he's a better defensive rebounder than Amare. Is, in fact, one of the best defensive rebounders in the league. Those of us playing the home game will notice he's finished 5th and 6th in the LEAGUE in DREB% the last two years (and 7th and 8th in TRB%).
Frankly, I'd rather have Lee than Amare. He's a year younger, considerably healthier and better in a lot of important ways. Not as explosive, to be sure, but still a fantastic player and with a much more manageable personality. The difference in offense isn't worth it, I'd rather have Lee.
EDIT: BTW, Lee's increased his per-minute scoring rate every year since his rookie season and continues to score at a very high efficiency. He's even a 20+ ppg scorer now.
His height is irrelevant, Amare is a turnstile even when he's trying and Lee is a vastly superior defensive rebounder, which more than makes up for any difference in their defensive ability.
He plays well at speed, finishes well around the rim and this year, he displayed a really good perimeter J from 16-23 feet from the rim (and he was using it a lot). He's also a good passer.
He's basically tailor-made for this offense and he's a better defensive rebounder than Amare. Is, in fact, one of the best defensive rebounders in the league. Those of us playing the home game will notice he's finished 5th and 6th in the LEAGUE in DREB% the last two years (and 7th and 8th in TRB%).
Frankly, I'd rather have Lee than Amare. He's a year younger, considerably healthier and better in a lot of important ways. Not as explosive, to be sure, but still a fantastic player and with a much more manageable personality. The difference in offense isn't worth it, I'd rather have Lee.
EDIT: BTW, Lee's increased his per-minute scoring rate every year since his rookie season and continues to score at a very high efficiency. He's even a 20+ ppg scorer now.
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tsherkin wrote:I'd love to have David Lee.
His height is irrelevant, Amare is a turnstile even when he's trying and Lee is a vastly superior defensive rebounder, which more than makes up for any difference in their defensive ability.
He plays well at speed, finishes well around the rim and this year, he displayed a really good perimeter J from 16-23 feet from the rim (and he was using it a lot). He's also a good passer.
He's basically tailor-made for this offense and he's a better defensive rebounder than Amare. Is, in fact, one of the best defensive rebounders in the league. Those of us playing the home game will notice he's finished 5th and 6th in the LEAGUE in DREB% the last two years (and 7th and 8th in TRB%).
Frankly, I'd rather have Lee than Amare. He's a year younger, considerably healthier and better in a lot of important ways. Not as explosive, to be sure, but still a fantastic player and with a much more manageable personality. The difference in offense isn't worth it, I'd rather have Lee.
EDIT: BTW, Lee's increased his per-minute scoring rate every year since his rookie season and continues to score at a very high efficiency. He's even a 20+ ppg scorer now.
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Kerrsed wrote:tsherkin wrote:I'd love to have David Lee.
His height is irrelevant, Amare is a turnstile even when he's trying and Lee is a vastly superior defensive rebounder, which more than makes up for any difference in their defensive ability.
He plays well at speed, finishes well around the rim and this year, he displayed a really good perimeter J from 16-23 feet from the rim (and he was using it a lot). He's also a good passer.
He's basically tailor-made for this offense and he's a better defensive rebounder than Amare. Is, in fact, one of the best defensive rebounders in the league. Those of us playing the home game will notice he's finished 5th and 6th in the LEAGUE in DREB% the last two years (and 7th and 8th in TRB%).
Frankly, I'd rather have Lee than Amare. He's a year younger, considerably healthier and better in a lot of important ways. Not as explosive, to be sure, but still a fantastic player and with a much more manageable personality. The difference in offense isn't worth it, I'd rather have Lee.
EDIT: BTW, Lee's increased his per-minute scoring rate every year since his rookie season and continues to score at a very high efficiency. He's even a 20+ ppg scorer now.
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Aggggh.....Not for 11 million. Give me Yi or Frye and wait for the new CBA.
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hell no - i want amare 1st, but david lee is very very close behind him on my list
part of me would consider him an upgrade over amare, but i do have a mancrush on amare and hope he stays
but if lee wants to take 4 mil per year less than amare, then sign him up!
part of me would consider him an upgrade over amare, but i do have a mancrush on amare and hope he stays
but if lee wants to take 4 mil per year less than amare, then sign him up!
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Kerrsed wrote:tsherkin wrote:I'd love to have David Lee.
His height is irrelevant, Amare is a turnstile even when he's trying and Lee is a vastly superior defensive rebounder, which more than makes up for any difference in their defensive ability.
He plays well at speed, finishes well around the rim and this year, he displayed a really good perimeter J from 16-23 feet from the rim (and he was using it a lot). He's also a good passer.
He's basically tailor-made for this offense and he's a better defensive rebounder than Amare. Is, in fact, one of the best defensive rebounders in the league. Those of us playing the home game will notice he's finished 5th and 6th in the LEAGUE in DREB% the last two years (and 7th and 8th in TRB%).
Frankly, I'd rather have Lee than Amare. He's a year younger, considerably healthier and better in a lot of important ways. Not as explosive, to be sure, but still a fantastic player and with a much more manageable personality. The difference in offense isn't worth it, I'd rather have Lee.
EDIT: BTW, Lee's increased his per-minute scoring rate every year since his rookie season and continues to score at a very high efficiency. He's even a 20+ ppg scorer now.
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Excellent post!
I like the post as well, but while reading it, I had a strange feeling we've been here before. It smells of the McDyss/Googs situation and I now feel uneasy about the whole thing.

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Miklo wrote:I agree with many of the sentiments here - I think Booz is overpaid but I would actually love to see DLee here. Even he is probably above Sarver's pricetag
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When did Miklo get made mod? Surprised Kerrsed didn't get the call of duty, maybe he's not mature enough lol.
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I hope dirk not signing is a good sign for us. Mabye he got tired of the media in Dallas during his scandle from last year. Hopefully if Amare leaves Steve has been in his ear. 

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Fo-Real wrote:I hope dirk not signing is a good sign for us. Mabye he got tired of the media in Dallas during his scandle from last year. Hopefully if Amare leaves Steve has been in his ear.
i hope so..... but i have a feeling he just wants to be in the spot light for a lil, making dallas sweat it out.
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I dont know man, he is opting out of 21.5 mil, Not like Amare at 17 and change. Can he possibly think he can get more, or is it a years thing like Amare.
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I think a guy his age would want security. I'm sure he's opting out so he can re-up to a max year deal.
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Players are opting out this season so they can get a current-sized contract for more years before the new CBA goes into effect. So if Dirk can get $18M each year for 5 or 6 years, its a better deal than $21.5M next season and a drastic cut to something like $13-14M under the new CBA.

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Lee's demanding price of 10-14 mil per year is way too high. He should be, and is, best suited to be a role player for a playoff team. Gimme a break, he was playing on the horrendous Knicks the last couple of years, stat stuffing. He is this year's Turkoglu and bound to disappoint wherever he lands. He'll only disappoint because he is paid too much and can't do nor has the talent that puts him at the next level of superstar.
His defense is the rebound, live and die. He gives no help defense nor has any foot speed. For all the value of his double doubles, the Knicks didn't get 30 wins this year or much more any of the last 3-4 years with Lee. The era where you can get by with a smallish "Wes Unseld-like" center is gone.
Keep looking.
His defense is the rebound, live and die. He gives no help defense nor has any foot speed. For all the value of his double doubles, the Knicks didn't get 30 wins this year or much more any of the last 3-4 years with Lee. The era where you can get by with a smallish "Wes Unseld-like" center is gone.
Keep looking.
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5 years 55 mil - i would sign him up and be happy
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Lee would be an absolute monster playing with Nash. A monster. He'd easily be putting up 20+ on insane efficiency. He played great with Duhon at point, he'd go from playing with the worst PG in the NBA to the best.
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abuzz wrote:Lee's demanding price of 10-14 mil per year is way too high. He should be, and is, best suited to be a role player for a playoff team. Gimme a break, he was playing on the horrendous Knicks the last couple of years, stat stuffing. He is this year's Turkoglu and bound to disappoint wherever he lands. He'll only disappoint because he is paid too much and can't do nor has the talent that puts him at the next level of superstar.
His defense is the rebound, live and die. He gives no help defense nor has any foot speed. For all the value of his double doubles, the Knicks didn't get 30 wins this year or much more any of the last 3-4 years with Lee. The era where you can get by with a smallish "Wes Unseld-like" center is gone.
Keep looking.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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abuzz wrote:Lee's demanding price of 10-14 mil per year is way too high. He should be, and is, best suited to be a role player for a playoff team. Gimme a break, he was playing on the horrendous Knicks the last couple of years, stat stuffing. He is this year's Turkoglu and bound to disappoint wherever he lands. He'll only disappoint because he is paid too much and can't do nor has the talent that puts him at the next level of superstar.
His defense is the rebound, live and die. He gives no help defense nor has any foot speed. For all the value of his double doubles, the Knicks didn't get 30 wins this year or much more any of the last 3-4 years with Lee. The era where you can get by with a smallish "Wes Unseld-like" center is gone.
Keep looking.
Lee's efficiency is far too high to be "stat stuffing."
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I think we can get Lee for 5x11 million, and it's a bargain.
He has been working whole summer on his 3 pointer, shooting 500 a day, so he might be inside scorer, pick n roll man, stretch forward and rebounder in one person. We needed THREE players last year to do these things since Amare doesn't rebound, Lou have little offensive game and Frye does 3 point shooting and nothing else.
Other thing what was consistantly overlooked - we didn't have low post scorer, Amare couldn't score back to the basket with Rudy Fernandez or Derek Fisher on him, and that's a big reason why switching on Steve Nash every time, disrupted the offensive flow. Lee would give us a chance to take advantage of all switches and mismatches in pnr situation. Plus he's excellent passer averaging almost 4 assists per game lat year what should give us yet another advantage we didn't had before.
I'm all for David Lee, he's the best power forward we can get right now.
He has been working whole summer on his 3 pointer, shooting 500 a day, so he might be inside scorer, pick n roll man, stretch forward and rebounder in one person. We needed THREE players last year to do these things since Amare doesn't rebound, Lou have little offensive game and Frye does 3 point shooting and nothing else.
Other thing what was consistantly overlooked - we didn't have low post scorer, Amare couldn't score back to the basket with Rudy Fernandez or Derek Fisher on him, and that's a big reason why switching on Steve Nash every time, disrupted the offensive flow. Lee would give us a chance to take advantage of all switches and mismatches in pnr situation. Plus he's excellent passer averaging almost 4 assists per game lat year what should give us yet another advantage we didn't had before.
I'm all for David Lee, he's the best power forward we can get right now.
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NYK 455 wrote:You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Biff wrote:Lee's efficiency is far too high to be "stat stuffing."
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lilfishi22 wrote:NYK 455 wrote:You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.Biff wrote:Lee's efficiency is far too high to be "stat stuffing."
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NYK 455: the people talking #%@^ about David Lee around here have no basis for it and almost every argument against him shows that fact. They say things that are completely off-base. I would be happy to have Lee over Stat, and I was a huge Stat fan beginning of this past season (will still follow him wherever he ends up, I just kind of don't care for it to be Phoenix next season).