2010 FA Thread

[Hoopalotta]

^ Bring 'em all Rico, just bring all those guys. We'll go with an open door policy on well paid scorers.

[dopeismarcus]

I hope we go after Rudy Gay.

We dont have the money thanks to the Kirk trade

Trade Gil for Al and you would.

[hands11]

So Bosh is going to team up with Wade. That should be nasty.

[nuposse04]

So Bosh is going to team up with Wade. That should be nasty.

thats much less dangerous then bosh and LeTravel in chi-town. I can live with wade and bosh pairin up down in miami cause aside from them, no one else on that roster is any good.

I do wonder, if lbj and bosh do go to chicago, what do the bulls do when noah and rose's contracts are up?

[sfam]

EG has this job for a reason...... and there's a reason that none of us have it. He knows what he's doing. We think we do, but we probably don't.

I trust EG (and Ted too)

Isn't that what everyone said about Vinny Cerrato?

Just because EG has the job doesn't mean that there aren't more qualified people else where. Just because none of us have EG's job doesn't mean that many avid posters couldn't do a pretty good job at it. Heck I trust people's talent evaluation on this board more than I do from most 'experts'. It's clear that people on this board understand the salary cap better than many NBA executive's. EG has the job because of opportunities we've never had.

This is hardly a HOF post.

By everyone, are you referring to Vinny's mother? I'm a longtime contributor to extremeskins and honestly cannot remember one occasion that anyone seriously offered Vinny up as a great GM. I think the reason most often given for his job longevity is that he let Danny win at racketball.

So again, who is this "everyone" you refer to with Vinny?

[rockymac52]

Okay, just completely throwing this one out there, I can't actually see it happening, but here goes:

Shaquille O'Neal?

I'd assume Shaq will continue to ring chase, but I feel like it's getting to the point where a lot of teams realize Shaq isn't even half the player he used to be, and many teams may feel they're better off without him. So let's say he doesn't get much love or opportunities from the perceived title contenders. Would he accept that he's way past his prime, and similar to how he teamed up with LeBron last year, take it a step further and team up with Wall this year? If he has limited options elsewhere, I could see Shaq accepting it and then justifying it to the world by saying that he wants to get a chance to play with a future HOFer early on in his career. There's clearly playing time available at center here, and we need that veteran presence. I think bringing in Shaq is a bit of a publicity stunt at this point, so I'm not sure if it's something Ted/EG would go for, but if he's for the MLE or less for 1-2 years, it's gotta be something they'd consider. I think what's more likely to get in the way of such a move is that Shaq would rather ring chase with established allstars, especially if he's taking a paycut in both scenarios.

Can anyone see Shaq coming here for cheap as a somewhat realistic possibility? Or is that just a pipe dream? Or do we even want him? I really can see every side of this argument, somebody please tell me I'm crazy and why.

[nate33]

I think bringing in Shaq is a bit of a publicity stunt at this point, so I'm not sure if it's something Ted/EG would go for, but if he's for the MLE or less for 1-2 years, it's gotta be something they'd consider. I think what's more likely to get in the way of such a move is that Shaq would rather ring chase with established allstars, especially if he's taking a paycut in both scenarios.

Can anyone see Shaq coming here for cheap as a somewhat realistic possibility? Or is that just a pipe dream? Or do we even want him? I really can see every side of this argument, somebody please tell me I'm crazy and why.

You answered you own question. Bringing Shaq in would be a publicity stunt. It would feel like a side-show, not a professional basketball team trying to build the foundation for a championship. Even if Shaq could help us a bit on the basketball court, he would destroy the philosophical foundation for building a winning team. We want a value system based on teamwork, selflessness, and the desire to put forth maximum effort every minute they're out on the floor. Shaq undermines all these values.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

If Lebron and Bosh go somewhere together, my money is on Shaq coming along not far behind for another chance at a ring

[rockymac52]

^yeah, see, I just posted something along those lines in the general board, which got me to thinking about the possibility of Shaq here.

I agree it's not a move that helps us long term, and would definitely attract a lot of unwanted attention to the team, but I think Shaq could provide some insight to our big men. Shaq's definitely a jokester, and can be immature at times, which goes against what we're trying to accomplish now, BUT he is good at keeping focused and could maybe teach some of the immature ones on our team how to balance the jokes, pranks, and fun with the practicing, training, and teamwork.

The more I try and justify it, the more reasons I come up with as to why it would be a bad fit. Sooo, yeah, didn't expect it to happen, and now I don't want it to happen haha. Although I can see several positives, there's way too many negatives.

[verbal8]

If Lebron and Bosh go somewhere together, my money is on Shaq coming along not far behind for another chance at a ring

Yeah I think Shaq will be the first in line to be a "ring-seeking vet" signing for the vet minimum.

[closg00]

Thrilled by our landing Randle for SL
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4124 ... mps#page/5

[hands11]

^yeah, see, I just posted something along those lines in the general board, which got me to thinking about the possibility of Shaq here.

I agree it's not a move that helps us long term, and would definitely attract a lot of unwanted attention to the team, but I think Shaq could provide some insight to our big men. Shaq's definitely a jokester, and can be immature at times, which goes against what we're trying to accomplish now, BUT he is good at keeping focused and could maybe teach some of the immature ones on our team how to balance the jokes, pranks, and fun with the practicing, training, and teamwork.

The more I try and justify it, the more reasons I come up with as to why it would be a bad fit. Sooo, yeah, didn't expect it to happen, and now I don't want it to happen haha. Although I can see several positives, there's way too many negatives.

Personally, I see very little chance of it happening and I also don't think it is a good idea.

Shaq Foo is not what we need here. I would rather bring back David Robinson as a big man coach or at least a consultant.

[Rafael122]

Any interest in Anthony Tolliver? 6'9 240 pounds, played with Golden State? Warriors won't extend a qualifying offer to him, but he exploded onto the scene late last season.

[verbal8]

Any interest in Anthony Tolliver? 6'9 240 pounds, played with Golden State? Warriors won't extend a qualifying offer to him, but he exploded onto the scene late last season.

Why doesn't Golden State want to keep him?

He could be a good addition at a little over the minimum, but definitely need to avoid paying too much. I would much rather add him than re-sign Oberto or add an over-the-hill vet.

[Severn Hoos]

It's funny - I went to hoopshype to check out the Wiz salaries. Man, does it look sparse in there (draft picks are not listed yet):

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/washington.htm

And that's with Foye & Howard, both of whom will not have the Team option picked up.

But the really barren cupboard is the Heat:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

I know we've been hearing about it for months, but to see an NBA roster that can't even put 5 guys on the floor at the local Y is still a little shocking.

[nate33]

I posted this in another thread but it probably makes more sense here:

Code: Select all

Player           10/11  11/12  12/13  13/14
Arenas,Gilbert   17.73  19.27  20.81  22.35
Hinrich,Kirk      9.00   8.00    -      - 
Wall,John         5.14   5.53   5.92   7.46
Blatche,Andray    3.26   3.52    -      - 
Thornton,Al       2.81    -      -      - 
Young,Nick        2.69    -      -      - 
McGee,JaVale      1.60   2.46    -      - 
Seraphin,Kevin    1.56   1.68   1.80   2.76
Booker,Trevor     1.20   1.29   1.39   2.35
Ross,Quinton      1.15    -      -      - 
N'Diaye, Hamady   0.47   0.79   0.90    - 
Free Agent         -      -      -      - 
Free Agent         -      -      -      - 
Free Agent         -      -      -      - 
Free Agent         -      -      -      - 
2011 pick (#17)    -     1.74   1.87   2.00

Total Salary     46.62  44.28  32.67  36.91
Salary Cap       56.10  57.78  59.52  61.30
Luxury Tax       68.44  70.50  72.61  74.79
Money Available  21.82  26.21  39.94  37.87

[Rafael122]

Do you think the Wizards will really hit the luxury tax though or close to it? I think the most frustrating thing is that we will probably sit out this year's free agency even though we have the money to make a splash. We could easily afford a $12 mil per year player.

[Benjammin]

If Gil would be traded for an expiring or near expiring and Hinrich is also traded for an expiring the Wizards would have huge cap room in 2011-2012, even after some likely moves and required cap holds. However, what they could do with that space is another question.

[Benjammin]

Do you think the Wizards will really hit the luxury tax though or close to it? I think the most frustrating thing is that we will probably sit out this year's free agency even though we have the money to make a splash. We could easily afford a $12 mil per year player.

Raf, we won't sniff the luxury tax this year. We likely won't get that close to the salary cap limit, unless we take on another contract in a BOYD deal and make another modest signing.

[verbal8]

Do you think the Wizards will really hit the luxury tax though or close to it? I think the most frustrating thing is that we will probably sit out this year's free agency even though we have the money to make a splash. We could easily afford a $12 mil per year player.

Raf, we won't sniff the luxury tax this year. We likely won't get that close to the salary cap limit, unless we take on another contract in a BOYD deal and make another modest signing.

It would take essentially turning over the entire roster in trades using the 125% rule to reach the luxury tax.