Fantasy Trade Thread

[buckets]

Al jeff is 6 foot 8!!! And played for a 15 win team put him on a good team ( not great) good and he avg 14 and 8. You overvalue al jefferson. I would rather have weezy jefferson shooting lefty.

Why is Al Jefferson 6'8?

[76ciology]

Al jeff is 6 foot 8!!! And played for a 15 win team put him on a good team ( not great) good and he avg 14 and 8. You overvalue al jefferson. I would rather have weezy jefferson shooting lefty.

nope.

[76ciology]

About Al Jefferson's defense.

I think that he could be a decent interior defender, with his mobility, size and basketball IQ. He also has his 1.5bpg 11rpg average from the previous seasons to prove that he has the heart and the capability to get it done at the defensive end.

Now, I might be wrong with this because I honestly am not familiar with Al J. But I think the reason why he was viewed as a bad defender is because he's being place out of his natural position (C position). IMO, he'd be fine at the PF position with his 6'10" height and having the same 9'2" standing reach with Hawes. He also has a legit 7-1 center who's also an above average shot blocker at the center position who can help him with the team's interior defense.

Ok, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that they'd be a force to reckon with at the defensive end. But I think that they'd be fine. Defensively, that's a lot of length with both guys having 9'2" standing reach. both Hawes and Jefferson seems to compliment one another with Al being a very good rebounder and both guys having a lot of length to alter shots (1.5bpg caliber big men).

Would our defense be better, after substituting AL J with Iggy. No. But it's not that far of a drop off. With the addition of length and a legit double digit rebounder. But on the offensive end, I think there is a major improvement between Iggy and Al J. With Al J being a consistent 20ppg player who is a force down low to compliment our perimeter players.

Ultimately, if all fails. We'd have a lot of capspace for 2013 with both Jefferson and Brand's contract expiring the same year (one year less than Iggy's).

[76erFixer]

76ciology

"Would our defense be better, after substituting AL J with Iggy. No. But it's not that far of a drop off"

[youngcrev]

Injury history, defensive liability vs rarely misses a game, expected by the coach to make an All-NBA defensive team.

I can't argue with that. I know Al J's limitations, so do I know Iggy's. Both guys have their baggages. If Al J doesn't have his injury history, I don't think we'd be able to trade Iggy for one of the most promising big man who averages 20+ppg and 11+ rpg with 1.7bpg.

But from the news I'm hearing from the Wolves, they are expecting a comeback from Al J this season (focusing on his core). Because he's considering this season as a do or die for his career.

I'd still take the risk for Al J. Then like I said, if it didn't work, we'd be in a much better shape in the offseason of 2013 to lure max FAs like D-12.

I'd consider a deal involving our expirings and Speights or Young. Not for Iguodala though.

Holiday / Williams
Turner / Meeks
Iguodala / Nocioni
Jefferson / Young
Hawes / Brand

[BringBackKorver]

Jefferson is 6 ft 8.5" just to clear up whatever you guys were arguing about earlier...

I don't want Jefferson here unless Brand isn't here. You don't pay 90 million over 3 years to two players who cannot play on the court at the same time. If Minny is legitimately shopping him for expiring deals it gets interesting, but we'd still have to have a way to move Brand first.

[SJSF]

How about Rashard Lewis for Iggy. Rashard is a mismatch at the 3. And can hit the 3. Way over paid though, why i think Orlando might do it. Numbers would have to match up though. Maybe Lou and Iggy for Lewis.

[sixerswillrule]

Jefferson is 6 ft 8.5" just to clear up whatever you guys were arguing about earlier...

Players go by height in shoes. So he's 6'10".

How about Rashard Lewis for Iggy. Rashard is a mismatch at the 3. And can hit the 3. Way over paid though, why i think Orlando might do it. Numbers would have to match up though. Maybe Lou and Iggy for Lewis.

[SJSF]

Jefferson is 6 ft 8.5" just to clear up whatever you guys were arguing about earlier...

Players go by height in shoes. So he's 6'10".

How about Rashard Lewis for Iggy. Rashard is a mismatch at the 3. And can hit the 3. Way over paid though, why i think Orlando might do it. Numbers would have to match up though. Maybe Lou and Iggy for Lewis.

don't be so hard on yourself

[The Guilty Party]

Trading Iguodala for Lewis is a TERRIBLE idea.

1- Rashard Lewis will be 31 years old at the start of the upcoming season.

2- Lewis has three years remaining on his contract which is worth more than $62MIL.

3- Besides coming up extremely small in the playoffs, Lewis averaged 14.1 PPG and 4.4 RPG during the regular season. That makes Elton Brand's 13 and 6 for $5MIL LESS per season look like a bargain.

The thought of this trade makes me nauseous. Thanks.

[EBrandEra]

I don't want to bring Al Jefferson to Philly unless the Sixers are giving back Brand and, even then, I like Brand better from a defensive standpoint because he is a better shot blocker (2 blks/game for career vs. Jefferson's 1.25 bls/gm) and can be a better weakside eraser.

Neither Brand or Jefferson is an very good on ball defender so the Sixers should NOT have BOTH on the team.

In fact, the Sixers probably need a good defensive backcourt to make up for the defensive deficiencies that Thad and Brand will have in the frontcourt.

I would only trade Iguodala if it brings us back a good all around wing player who is also a good deep range shooter.

A sign and trade of Joe Johnson for Iguodala with the Hawks would not bother me.

[thaddeusyoungin]

Is there any way we could acquire Josh Smith without giving up Turner/Jrue/Iggy? When Atlanta loses Joe Johnson it would be best for them to go in rebuilding mode. Would Atlanta be tempted by Young, Speights, Smith, Green, Kapono, and a 2011 1st round pick lotto protected for Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia?

[sec-106]

Trading Iguodala for Lewis is a TERRIBLE idea.

What he said.

[The Guilty Party]

Is there any way we could acquire Josh Smith without giving up Turner/Jrue/Iggy? When Atlanta loses Joe Johnson it would be best for them to go in rebuilding mode. Would Atlanta be tempted by Young, Speights, Smith, Green, Kapono, and a 2011 1st round pick lotto protected for Josh Smith and Zaza Pachulia?

If the Hawks go into "rebuilding mode" I would think that keeping a 24 year old Josh Smith would go right along with that plan. Also, it's not as though the Hawks are an aging team that needs to break their roster down and start over.

Smith- 24
Horford- 24
Williams- 24
Pachulia- 26
Teague- 22
Jordan Crawford- 21

They need to add pieces to that core but I don't see them actively trying to move them because Johnson breaks the bank at some other team's expense.

[Foshan]

TGP, the only problem i see with that ^ is that Horford and Smith play the same position, and very soon will be the two highest payed players. Even in a rebuild, having that much money tied up at PF is not a good idea, and the whole league saw how well horford at the 5 worked in the playoffs.

I could see them looking to move Smith or Horford in the future to fill another hole.

[The Guilty Party]

I agree, Foshan but I haven't read anything out of Atlanta that says they want to break that duo up. Maybe as times goes on that will happen but I don't think it's going to happen anytime in the near future.

[Point-God]

I don't want to bring Al Jefferson to Philly unless the Sixers are giving back Brand and, even then, I like Brand better from a defensive standpoint because he is a better shot blocker (2 blks/game for career vs. Jefferson's 1.25 bls/gm) and can be a better weakside eraser.

Neither Brand or Jefferson is an very good on ball defender so the Sixers should NOT have BOTH on the team.

In fact, the Sixers probably need a good defensive backcourt to make up for the defensive deficiencies that Thad and Brand will have in the frontcourt.

I would only trade Iguodala if it brings us back a good all around wing player who is also a good deep range shooter.

A sign and trade of Joe Johnson for Iguodala with the Hawks would not bother me.

Al Jefferson and Elton Brand both have equal shot blocking ability at this point in their careers. Elton brand is no more a 2.0 block per game guy than Iverson is still a 30ppg guy. It's all in the past.

[Slacktard]

Let's get in on this Nuggets moving Melo if he turns down the extension train.

Andre Iguodala, Willie Green, Thaddeus Young for Carmelo Anthony & Renaldo Balkman

We once traded them one of the top scorers in the league so it makes sense that they return the favor... no?

[radrmd216]

It sounds like neither the Sixers (Iggy) nor the Hawks (Smith) want to trade their respective player and enter full rebuild mode. I think their situations are analogous. Both young players, but positionally and financially, it makes more sense to trade them.

Here is a trade that I don't think works financially, but might be able to with a little tweaking.

Trade 1
Sixers - Ariza, Hayes, Patterson/Hill
Rockets - Iggy and Speights


This trade is me just going a little crazy after seeing a possible Carmelo trade on the Realgm front page.

Trade 2
Sixers - Carmelo and Balkman
Nuggets - Iggy, Lou, Thad, Speights, 1st protected pick (Lou could be taken out and pick protected can vary)

[51X3RF4N]

Iggy, Young, Willie Green

for

Carmelo Anthony

Jrue
Turner
Melo
Brand
Hawes

Melo brings 25-30ppg, helps Turner develop without all the pressure to be a #1 scoring option. Turner gets 20-22ppg. Jrue takes a back seat role and simply dishes the ball out to those 2 guys. Our bigs stretch the floor with their outside shooting, which allows Melo and Turner to dominate down low with their post moves/slashing/driving abilities.

Sixers with this lineup could easily finish top 4 in the East.