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Post#41 » by LordBaldric » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:33 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I don't think they're moving Al to save money because I suspect Kahn is going to try and give the max or close to it to Rudy Gay, but I do know (since Kahn keeps saying it, in not so many words) that the general plan is to create an exciting, competitive, (and therefore profitable) team, rather than aim for strictly for a championship team. Kahn is a business man who happens to work in basketball, I think that's why he's been brought in. Glen Taylor is probably tired of having a sucky business and wants a safe business plan, Kahn is executing that. He's gonna bring in athletic guys that can run the floor, play above the rim, and make highlight reel plays, and also guys that play defense and can shoot so we're not all style and no substance.

We'll have to get used to moves like Webster over the 16 and Johnson over Cousins because those are the safe moves that get us closer to the kind of team Dave Kahn wants.


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Post#42 » by shangrila » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:08 pm

We already played at the 3rd highest pace last season, so the team was already a running team. But this isn't the 7 seconds or less offence and the team has guys that will and can defend their positions, so they haven't given up on the essential elements needed to win a championship.
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Post#43 » by horaceworthy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:12 pm

SSUBluesman wrote:Since you're so fond of putting thought first, it's a shame you didn't choose to do so here. I'm talking about RUNNING teams, i.e. teams that are built to run and live and die as such. No one, including you, would actually label those Lakers teams as being running teams along the lines of the Nets/Suns. All teams will push the ball to some extent, much like they all shoot 3's to some extent. There is a significant difference between teams BUILT to run/reign 3's and those that do so in varying amounts.

The truth is we don't really know how Al feels about all of this. We don't know how willing Kahn/Rambis are to move forward with Al. However at this point it doesn't look that great.

So what constitutes a running team isn’t based on what actually happened on the court, just your opinion. This has led you to conclude that the Adelman Sacramento teams, which, from 1999-2004 played at the fastest pace in the league every season but one (2001, when they played at the 2nd fastest pace in the league), and teams that played at a faster or equally fast pace to teams you labeled running teams, can’t be thought of as running teams. This isn’t because they did so in varying amounts or to some extent, but because they consistently did so over the course of an entire season, or seasons.

If your point is that teams built to live and die by one aspect of the game won’t be able to win consistently, you’re right, but that applies to more than just teams built to live and die by the run. By and large, one dimensional teams have trouble finding consistent success. You’re also right in agreeing with Devilz that the reason for implementing an up tempo system is to generate more interest/revenue. Kahn’s basically said as much.

Chances are the Wolves won’t win a title with an up tempo system, but that has more to do with there only being 8 franchises that have won a title in the last 30 years and it being unlikely to build a championship team than choosing an up tempo system.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''
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Post#44 » by horaceworthy » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:15 pm

shangrila wrote:We already played at the 3rd highest pace last season, so the team was already a running team. But this isn't the 7 seconds or less offence and the team has guys that will and can defend their positions, so they haven't given up on the essential elements needed to win a championship.

That's the direction Kahn and Rambis took them in, the year before Minnesota played at right around a league average pace. It's not like this was a running team before Kahn chose to make it one.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''

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