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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#41 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 1, 2010 5:55 am

Would it be a possibility to send Brewer to Memphis in a Gay S/T (Sessions too?) and Al to NY in a Lee S/T?
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#42 » by shangrila » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:12 am

Would New York even want Al? And wouldn't the BYC complicate things a little?
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#43 » by skorff26 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:42 am

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big3_8_19_21 wrote:First 5 ESPN tweets of free agency are all Wolves related.


That's because Kahn can't keep his yapper shut....and he signed someone.


The Joe Johnson getting max is bad for us. He's staying in ATL, then NY's new target likely becomes Gay......ah well. I didn't really want him anway.

Or the Clippers will go after Gay or Memphis will resign him...
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#44 » by Paladin55 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 11:58 am

shangrila wrote:Would New York even want Al? And wouldn't the BYC complicate things a little?

Walsh would want Kahn to take Curry's expiring and Rubio would have to be added as a sweetner, and even then he probably wouldn't do it- you would also have to take Chandler from us.

Even then, Walsh might not do it, and once again, none of you guys are talking about the fact that you cannot have Lee and Love playing significant minutes on the floor together.

As a Knicks fan I might be able to live with this trade proposal, since the addition of Chandler and Curry is a wash for us in terms of cap space, but your front line would be like Swiss cheese on D if Lee and Love get big minutes together.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#45 » by Saltine » Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:06 pm

We should never do anything that may ever help NY, just on general principle.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#46 » by shangrila » Thu Jul 1, 2010 12:43 pm

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shangrila wrote:Would New York even want Al? And wouldn't the BYC complicate things a little?

Walsh would want Kahn to take Curry's expiring and Rubio would have to be added as a sweetner, and even then he probably wouldn't do it- you would also have to take Chandler from us.

Wait...what? You're kidding yourself if you think a Lee S&T would get anywhere near this value.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#47 » by big3_8_19_21 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 1:30 pm

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shangrila wrote:Would New York even want Al? And wouldn't the BYC complicate things a little?

Walsh would want Kahn to take Curry's expiring and Rubio would have to be added as a sweetner, and even then he probably wouldn't do it- you would also have to take Chandler from us.

Even then, Walsh might not do it, and once again, none of you guys are talking about the fact that you cannot have Lee and Love playing significant minutes on the floor together.

As a Knicks fan I might be able to live with this trade proposal, since the addition of Chandler and Curry is a wash for us in terms of cap space, but your front line would be like Swiss cheese on D if Lee and Love get big minutes together.


While we're at it, would you like Wes Johnson and Kevin Love, too? Is this some kind of sick joke? This isn't even close to within the scope of reality.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#48 » by Paladin55 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 2:51 pm

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shangrila wrote:Would New York even want Al? And wouldn't the BYC complicate things a little?

Walsh would want Kahn to take Curry's expiring and Rubio would have to be added as a sweetner, and even then he probably wouldn't do it- you would also have to take Chandler from us.

Even then, Walsh might not do it, and once again, none of you guys are talking about the fact that you cannot have Lee and Love playing significant minutes on the floor together.

As a Knicks fan I might be able to live with this trade proposal, since the addition of Chandler and Curry is a wash for us in terms of cap space, but your front line would be like Swiss cheese on D if Lee and Love get big minutes together.


While we're at it, would you like Wes Johnson and Kevin Love, too? Is this some kind of sick joke? This isn't even close to within the scope of reality.


Hell, one of your guys put out the Jefferson for Lee sign and trade swap.

The Knicks are not going to want Jefferson for Lee straight up- sorry. Kills cap space and we are getting a guy who is not the same player he once was and may never be.

Your GM is the guy who has basically said he is going to have to get rid of Jefferson- in effect devaluing him as a player.

Lee for Jefferson is the same as the Knicks signing Jefferson to a 3 year contract on the FA market, and guess what- Jefferson may not be worth a 3 yr/$42M contract at this point in his career.

Walsh is not going to take on a big contract like Jefferson's without getting reciprocal cap relief, a prospect- and getting rid of Curry's contract.

We have our own problems- why are we going to take a player like Jefferson at this point?
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#49 » by Breakdown777 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 5:02 pm

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We have our own problems- why are we going to take a player like Jefferson at this point?


Because you're not going to get a decent FA, because nobody wants to play for your organization.

If NY doesn't get Amare, Boozer, or resign Lee, why wouldn't they want Big Al? Unless the knicks just want to be horrible again, while continuing to give up their high draft picks.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#50 » by Paladin55 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:29 pm

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Paladin55 wrote:
We have our own problems- why are we going to take a player like Jefferson at this point?


Because you're not going to get a decent FA, because nobody wants to play for your organization.

If NY doesn't get Amare, Boozer, or resign Lee, why wouldn't they want Big Al? Unless the knicks just want to be horrible again, while continuing to give up their high draft picks.

The real question has to do with why Kahn wants to dump Jefferson if he is as good as you think he is, and why has he completely killed his trade value by publicly humiliating him in the media.

He wants a real center in the middle, so he signs the 2 Serbs. Great- they could be a good tandem for your team. You are then left with Jefferson and Love at PF, but you have already "dissed" Jefferson by basically saying that you would move him if you sign the Serbs. Then you invite Lee in for a talk- a wonderful rebounder, much improved scorer, and high BB IQ guy, but who is simply terrible on D, when you have a guy already on your team- Love- who is similar in many ways.

Walsh is simply not going bail out his friend Kahn for old time's sake and take on what amounts to a 3 year $ 14 M/YR player who may still have physical problems.

I think Lee could be worth that extra year of contract, and he will do well with some real bigs protecting his butt, but Walsh is not about to take on a guy best suited for the half court game who already has physical problems which he may, or may not recover fully from.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#51 » by Esohny » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:57 pm

Paladin55 wrote:
Breakdown777 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
We have our own problems- why are we going to take a player like Jefferson at this point?


Because you're not going to get a decent FA, because nobody wants to play for your organization.

If NY doesn't get Amare, Boozer, or resign Lee, why wouldn't they want Big Al? Unless the knicks just want to be horrible again, while continuing to give up their high draft picks.

The real question has to do with why Kahn wants to dump Jefferson if he is as good as you think he is, and why has he completely killed his trade value by publicly humiliating him in the media.

He wants a real center in the middle, so he signs the 2 Serbs. Great- they could be a good tandem for your team. You are then left with Jefferson and Love at PF, but you have already "dissed" Jefferson by basically saying that you would move him if you sign the Serbs. Then you invite Lee in for a talk- a wonderful rebounder, much improved scorer, and high BB IQ guy, but who is simply terrible on D, when you have a guy already on your team- Love- who is similar in many ways.

Walsh is simply not going bail out his friend Kahn for old time's sake and take on what amounts to a 3 year $ 14 M/YR player who may still have physical problems.

I think Lee could be worth that extra year of contract, and he will do well with some real bigs protecting his butt, but Walsh is not about to take on a guy best suited for the half court game who already has physical problems which he may, or may not recover fully from.


I hope not, since I don't want Lee here.
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#52 » by big3_8_19_21 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:31 pm

I wish I hadn't read all that nonsense, but I did so I'll respond.

1. Al Jefferon would have to be serial raping his way across America to have that kind of negative value.
2. With the insane contracts teams are handing out to second tier talent, I would MUCH rather keep Al than trade him for Lee, who we would apparently have to grossly overpay for and whose skills overlap with Love's more than Jefferson's do let alone ADD ON Ricky Rubio, and on top of all of that TAKE BACK Eddy Curry :lol: .
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Re: Lee, Gay to get Kahned 

Post#53 » by horaceworthy » Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:17 pm

I like that saying a guy is being shopped is tantamount to public humiliation.

And then there's the Lee/Curry for Jefferson/Rubio proposal, which is beyond laughable.
"A while back,'' Cardinal said, "I took a picture of the standings and texted it to Love, just to bust his chops,'' Cardinal said. "He sent me a picture back of a snowdrift.''

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