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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#41 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:24 pm

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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#42 » by casey » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:24 pm

Klomp wrote:Lets take a look at some contracts:

Marcin Gortat - 5 years, 34 million
Chris Andersen - 5 years, 26 million
Anderson Varejao - 6 years, 42.5 million
Drew Gooden - 5 years, 32 million

All four of those are backup bigs. We signed our starting center for 4 years. 20 million. Thats a pretty good bargain.

And Darko would be a backup on almost every team. He couldn't even see the floor for the Knicks.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#43 » by Red Star » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:25 pm

congrads on the darko deal, i always thought he had potential just needed a team to give him a chance and room to grow.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#44 » by Mike_77 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:27 pm

Ok.. quick math shows about $4 mil based on shamsports.com salary info.. Thought the cap hold was already taken into consideration. Thanks.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#45 » by J08 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:33 pm

lmao u guys are happy with darko lol
this guy is a bonafied scrub. cant believe u will trade big al for this garbage unless al is really injured
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#46 » by hammel123 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:34 pm

Klomp wrote:Lets take a look at some contracts:

Marcin Gortat - 5 years, 34 million
Chris Andersen - 5 years, 26 million
Anderson Varejao - 6 years, 42.5 million
Drew Gooden - 5 years, 32 million

All four of those are backup bigs. We signed our starting center for 4 years. 20 million. Thats a pretty good bargain.


besides Drew Gooden monstrosity that was just announced by Wisconsin, of all places, you realize Andersen and Varejao played their balls out on a teams that went to conference and nba finals? are they overpaid? probably but not for the lack of hustle and effort. Gortat was paid based on potential, Darko has underperformed his whole career, there's very little potential and his effort is very much in question
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#47 » by TMIMITW » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:35 pm

Darko has more upside than people give him, We would utilize him strong in Miami. I like Darko in Min especially with the triangle offense
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#48 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:37 pm

casey wrote:True. But all the cap projections were assuming we renounced Darko's rights. Technically we're probably over the cap right now.


I don't really know what you mean by this, but we're about 5 million under.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#49 » by The J Rocka » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:48 pm

Found this on the Knicks board:


The Wolves and their supporters will rally 'round the idea that Milicic, who was acquired in a completely hilarious deadline deal for Brian Cardinal last February, improves the team despite his reputation.

Reality disagrees.

In the 18 games Darko started for Minnesota late last season, the team went 1-17, a winning percentage of .056. He has proven over his NBA career he has no offensive skill whatsoever; of all NBA players who have seen 5,000 minutes of playing time since 2003-04, Darko has the 14th lowest True Shooting percentage, outpaced by noted offensive cesspools Willie Green, Jarvis Hayes, Kareem Rush and Jason Hart. (And this despite Darko rarely shooting the ball.)

Last season, of the 23 7-footers who played at least 600 minutes, Darko had the seventh worst defensive rebound rate. (In case you were unaware, defensive rebounding is a big part of, um, defense.) Milicic is slow, even for a thick 7-footer; as such, his man and help defense rely solely on his decent clip of blocked shots. Otherwise, he's really got no skills at the NBA level. He blocks a few shots. That's it.

That's not worth $20 million if there were the promise of upside ... or if Darko had played like gangbusters in his short Minnesota audition last season ... or if the Wolves didn't have another center on the roster ... or if Darko were considered a low-key, low-maintenance good guy to have in the locker room. Darko wouldn't be worth $20 million over four years if all those items were true. And all those items are false.


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/01/dark ... berwolves/

Were getting clowned, o well I could honestly care less let Darko's game do the talking.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#50 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:50 pm

Of course we're getting clowned, it's Darko Milicic. That doesn't make it a bad signing, but this is fully to be expected.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#51 » by TMIMITW » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:51 pm

J_Era_3 wrote:Found this on the Knicks board:


The Wolves and their supporters will rally 'round the idea that Milicic, who was acquired in a completely hilarious deadline deal for Brian Cardinal last February, improves the team despite his reputation.

Reality disagrees.

In the 18 games Darko started for Minnesota late last season, the team went 1-17, a winning percentage of .056. He has proven over his NBA career he has no offensive skill whatsoever; of all NBA players who have seen 5,000 minutes of playing time since 2003-04, Darko has the 14th lowest True Shooting percentage, outpaced by noted offensive cesspools Willie Green, Jarvis Hayes, Kareem Rush and Jason Hart. (And this despite Darko rarely shooting the ball.)

Last season, of the 23 7-footers who played at least 600 minutes, Darko had the seventh worst defensive rebound rate. (In case you were unaware, defensive rebounding is a big part of, um, defense.) Milicic is slow, even for a thick 7-footer; as such, his man and help defense rely solely on his decent clip of blocked shots. Otherwise, he's really got no skills at the NBA level. He blocks a few shots. That's it.

That's not worth $20 million if there were the promise of upside ... or if Darko had played like gangbusters in his short Minnesota audition last season ... or if the Wolves didn't have another center on the roster ... or if Darko were considered a low-key, low-maintenance good guy to have in the locker room. Darko wouldn't be worth $20 million over four years if all those items were true. And all those items are false.


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/01/dark ... berwolves/

Were getting clowned, o well I could honestly care less let Darko's game do the talking.



I hope he becomes an alstar this year
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#52 » by The J Rocka » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:56 pm

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J_Era_3 wrote:Found this on the Knicks board:


The Wolves and their supporters will rally 'round the idea that Milicic, who was acquired in a completely hilarious deadline deal for Brian Cardinal last February, improves the team despite his reputation.

Reality disagrees.

In the 18 games Darko started for Minnesota late last season, the team went 1-17, a winning percentage of .056. He has proven over his NBA career he has no offensive skill whatsoever; of all NBA players who have seen 5,000 minutes of playing time since 2003-04, Darko has the 14th lowest True Shooting percentage, outpaced by noted offensive cesspools Willie Green, Jarvis Hayes, Kareem Rush and Jason Hart. (And this despite Darko rarely shooting the ball.)

Last season, of the 23 7-footers who played at least 600 minutes, Darko had the seventh worst defensive rebound rate. (In case you were unaware, defensive rebounding is a big part of, um, defense.) Milicic is slow, even for a thick 7-footer; as such, his man and help defense rely solely on his decent clip of blocked shots. Otherwise, he's really got no skills at the NBA level. He blocks a few shots. That's it.

That's not worth $20 million if there were the promise of upside ... or if Darko had played like gangbusters in his short Minnesota audition last season ... or if the Wolves didn't have another center on the roster ... or if Darko were considered a low-key, low-maintenance good guy to have in the locker room. Darko wouldn't be worth $20 million over four years if all those items were true. And all those items are false.


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/01/dark ... berwolves/

Were getting clowned, o well I could honestly care less let Darko's game do the talking.



I hope he becomes an alstar this year


or just drop 24 10 5 at MSG
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#53 » by TMo519 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:21 pm

Darko will be decent, the guy showed that even in a shorter stint. He's got skills, and he just wants to be somewhere where he's wanted. He's got that now. And Rambis seemed to get him playing hard and with a lot of energy, he likes the guy.

I don't expect brilliance, I just want him to fit the scheme offensively, grab boards, and play great D, especially the defense part. With Brewer along with Webster and Wesley, we should be improved at perimeter D, and then having Darko down there to defend will be nice to see. I'll take him at $5 mil a year.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#54 » by prefuse73 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:07 pm

yeah, not going to complain about having two guys, with complimentary skill sets, locked up at the center position for the prime of their careers all for 9.3M per.

by the way, who are the Knicks to talk about bad deals anyways. Jerome James, Jared Jeffries, etc.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#55 » by wilt » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:28 pm

Count me in watching you guys play as often as possible again like the end of last year.

I´m not neutral here as a longtime fan of his game, but 5 mio a year sure as hell sound ok if he gets in shape and even posts 12/8 with 2 blocks, good defense and good passing.

And him and Pekovic at 9 mio will imo be an absolute steal, plus both in a way fit together with Love (Darko defensively, Pekovic offensively) .
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#56 » by urinesane » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:34 pm

I cannot wait to see what Darko can do motivated and in shape with more talented players around him. I think he will have a shot at MIP this year.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#57 » by Krapinsky » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:36 pm

urinesane wrote:I cannot wait to see what Darko can do motivated and in shape with more talented players around him. I think he will have a shot at MIP this year.


It's between him and Webster
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#58 » by horaceworthy » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:50 pm

Worm Guts wrote:Of course we're getting clowned, it's Darko Milicic. That doesn't make it a bad signing, but this is fully to be expected.

Yeah, when people start writing articles analyzing the summer moves, Kahn's going to get beat up like Pete at the end of Green Street Hooligans. It'll be completely understandable as well.
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#59 » by TMIMITW » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:58 pm

I remember people saying the thing about Danny Ainge
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Re: 4 years 20 million for Darko. 

Post#60 » by casey » Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:02 pm

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casey wrote:True. But all the cap projections were assuming we renounced Darko's rights. Technically we're probably over the cap right now.


I don't really know what you mean by this, but we're about 5 million under.

I meant with all the cap holds we were over the cap already. Spree's cap hold alone is $19Mil. I'm guessing we won't renounce anybody's rights for a while either, if ever. We got bird rights for Darko and the MLE for Nikky.
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