Sources say Jefferson is trade bait to Memphis & NYK

cpfsf · Post #1 » by **cpfsf** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:08 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5345905

what?

AQuintus · Post #2 » by **AQuintus** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:09 pm

Probably just speculation based on the Lee and Gay rumors.

Post #3 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:11 pm

Bad writing.

1.) We are gonna trade Al

2.) We planned to bring Gay and Lee in

thus BsPn does not do real journalism but assumes we trade Al for those pieces.

On a side note, at the Deadline there was a pretty discussed deal for Gallo and Curry for Al. I am not sure what happened to it, but could you imagine the uproar if that is the deal again?

Krapinsky · Post #4 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:12 pm

Bingo. ^^^

LordBaldric · Post #5 » by **LordBaldric** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:27 pm

Only guy I'm interested in from those teams is OJ Mayo.

prefuse73 · Post #6 » by **prefuse73** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:29 pm

yeah... what kind of deal can we make for him...

LordBaldric · Post #7 » by **LordBaldric** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:32 pm

prefuse73 wrote:yeah... what kind of deal can we make for him...

Maybe if ZBo is headed to jail we can get him and OJ for Big Al + Brewer + filler? IDK

prefuse73 · Post #8 » by **prefuse73** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:39 pm

I was thinking maybe Sessions / Ellington for Mayo.

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:45 pm

prefuse73 wrote:I was thinking maybe Sessions / Ellington for Mayo.

Good idea Prefuse. I think you should propose that on the Grizzlies board ASAP.

prefuse73 · Post #10 » by **prefuse73** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:58 pm

I have a feeling you are setting up Krap... I don't appreciate it

MN Die Hard · Post #11 » by **MN Die Hard** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:12 pm

Switch gears....keep Al.....offer Love for Mayo.

Mayo-Webster-Johnson-Al-Darko; Flynn, Ellington, Brewer, Pek off the bench

jordananderson · Post #12 » by **jordananderson** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:15 pm

Whats the point of keeping Jefferson, he doesn't want to be here.

MN Die Hard · Post #13 » by **MN Die Hard** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:15 pm

Cause he's still our best player. He'll get over it, he's still under contract.

jordananderson · Post #14 » by **jordananderson** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:52 pm

MN Die Hard wrote:Cause he's still our best player. He'll get over it, he's still under contract.

I understand that but I would rather keep some one who has a good mentality and I personally believe has a higher ceiling, that being Kevin Love, then a guy who doesn't want to be here, for very good reason, we have shown him little to no respect. Al deserves better but at the same time, he most likely isn't willing to put it all on the line for us any more. Keep Love, Trade Al, if he is better we should get more in return anyways.

Pumaman · Post #15 » by **Pumaman** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:31 am

Does this do anything for any of you:

Den receives:
Big Al
Pekovic
Webster

Min receives:
J.R. Smith
Nene
$3.7 mil trade exception
future 1st

I'm guessing most will not like this, but here is what I was thinking:

There is definitely some risk here, Smith is not the most mature player, BUT, he is very talented. It seems to me that for the most part, playmakers are born and not made (Ex: I don't see Corey Brewer ever becoming a go-to guy who can get his shot when needed, although he is one of my favorite players). Smith at the very least can get us points in bunches from the 2 spot, and if he ever matures he could be a semi-star, and would definitely be a good running mate for Rubio. Think of Stephen Jackson; 7 or 8 years ago he was just a punk jacking up threes next to Reggie Miller, but his game evolved - and now he's a really good, but kinda old, player. This is the kind of chance I think we need to take, we are never going to be able to sign Wade, and aren't likely to find a dynamite wing in the draft. If it doesn't work out, no biggie, his contract is over in 2 years.

On to Nene: We're taking on another big man, but we're giving up two, so I think the minutes would work out fine between Love, Darko and Nene. We get another defensive presence who can block shots and can run the floor a bit. We don't gain a lot of athleticism, but we don't lose any here either as Big Al and Pekovic aren't too nimble in the first place. Nene's deal is for an average of $4 mil less a year, and for a year less, so overall we would save a good deal of cash as a result of this deal over 3 or 4 years. We give them Webster (or Brewer) to save money because now we've got all the wings we need (Brewer, Smith, Johnson, Ellington).

The trade exception is something I think Kahn is looking for as part of a deal, and while this isn't a huge one, it's decent. The future 1st may not amount to too much, but if they end of having to trade Melo cause he won't sign an extension, and end up blowing the team up, it could prove to be a good deal.

Post-trade lineups:

Min:
Nene/Darko
Love/whoever
Johnson/Brewer
Smith/Ellington/Brewer
Flynn/Sessions(Rubio)

Den:
Jefferson/Birdman
Martin/Pekovic
Melo/Webster
Afflalo/Webster
Billups/Lawson

Does this seem decent and realistic, or not enough of a haul for Jefferson?

Foye · Post #16 » by **Foye** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:23 am

I don't think Webster and Pekovic are available in trades now. Kahn/Rambis seem to be high on them.

Might make Jefferson/Brewer for that kinda deal though.

Pumaman · Post #17 » by **Pumaman** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:45 am

I see your point, I think they are high on them too, I just couldn't find anything else of value that Denver would be likely to include. However, doing it the above way wouldn't solve our logjam at the 4/5, while doing it the way I suggested would (not to mention it would give us about $5 million more cap room next year, and another$5 million more if we decide to renounce Brewer)