What the hell is going on?

schneiderjazz · Post #1 » by **schneiderjazz** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:40 pm

Joe Johnson has just had a horrible playoff performance and goes on to get a max offer from the Hawks. Now, Rudy freaking Gay also gets the max? Not to mention the contracts being offered to Gooden and Salmons. Teams are so afraid of losing their own FAs, they are just overpaying big time. Boozer is as good as gone IMO. He's gonna get a max offer and there's no way it will be from the Jazz. Hopefully we can work out a sign and trade and get some value back.

Jazzfan12 · Post #2 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:43 pm

When you have a shot at assisted basketball suicide, you got to do it.

Matt007b · Post #3 » by **Matt007b** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:44 pm

I agree.. Hawks basically have driven up the market by giving him the max. If I'm Joe Johnson I'm running to the table with pen in hand with that insane offer. Now Bosh/Boozer/Amare and company will probably demand the same.

The danger is that CBA lurking out there..players know they'll lose after the current CBA expires so they're putting cash>winning right now.. but if they get both...great.

HolyToledo · Post #4 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:55 pm

Dumb rich owners that dont understand signing these guys guarantees nothing

Post #5 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:24 pm

Rashard's deal hasn't destroyed the Magic... maybe that's the thinking.

GP · Post #6 » by GP » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:09 pm

Not too surprising, there is always someone willing to over pay for a player.

outerspacefella · Post #7 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:14 pm

Did Memphis know Gay was a RESTRICTED free agent? Do they know Gay's not a consistent difference maker? Someone has a hell of a man crush @MEM...

hoops4life · Post #8 » by **hoops4life** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:15 pm

Joe Johnson was rated higher than Boozer by most people.

erudite23 · Post #9 » by **erudite23** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:41 pm

Welcome to the NBA. Remember this when we're in the midst of a lockout a year from now.

BarneyGumble · Post #10 » by **BarneyGumble** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:41 pm

relax. Its the Hawks and the Grizzlies. Go look up how well those teams have performed over the last 2 decades. There's a reason for their ineptitude, and you are seeing it right now. Both of these contracts are terrible, and will come back to haunt the fans of those teams.

Sloanfeld · Post #11 » by **Sloanfeld** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:58 pm

I can't believe that about Gay. And Wallace just got an extension too. Morons.

hoops4life · Post #12 » by **hoops4life** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:30 pm

Memphis, Atlanta, Mil, and Min have a harder time attracting FA's than UT. They have to overpay them to stay.

The59Sound · Post #13 » by **The59Sound** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:53 pm

Joe Johnson will be overpaid, but we expected that. Rudy Gay getting the max is unreal. He was supposed to be the "cheap" consolation prize. Wow. Not a good sign for what this off-season will bring.

Post #14 » by **jazzfan1971** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:54 pm

The new CBA makes things such a crapshoot. I think Boozer 'deserves' Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay money. If I was his agent I could make a very strong case that he's mroe valueable than those guys.

I doubt it'll be long before we hear that Boozer has a 5 year 82 million offer on the table. Then we'll be looking at letting him walk or paying him 120 over 6. It's a bad situation. I can see why a sign and trade for a TPE and a late 1st has some appeal.

outerspacefella · Post #15 » by **outerspacefella** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:03 am

And now the Lakers made an offer to Mike Miller??? How Can they make an offer????
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67720/20100701/lakers_offer_mike_miller_$30m_set_deadline_to_accept/#

Post #16 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:08 am

outerspacefella wrote:And now the Lakers made an offer to Mike Miller??? How Can they make an offer????
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67720/20100701/lakers_offer_mike_miller_$30m_set_deadline_to_accept/#

He would do really well on that team. Bad news for the rest of the West.

outerspacefella · Post #17 » by **outerspacefella** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:36 am

HappyProle wrote:
outerspacefella wrote:And now the Lakers made an offer to Mike Miller??? How Can they make an offer????
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67720/20100701/lakers_offer_mike_miller_$30m_set_deadline_to_accept/#

He would do really well on that team. Bad news for the rest of the West.

Didn't know LAL have their MLE available...

Matt007b · Post #18 » by **Matt007b** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:47 am

and this is why I hate the NBA soft cap.

Post #19 » by **jazzfan1971** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:50 am

Every team over teh cap gets teh MLE every year.

Post #20 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:52 am

Every year, or is it every other? No, that's the bi-annual exception. Miller going to LA is bad, but all the others overpaying is fine. This is a one year thing, teams overpaying because they know the system is changing.