Quarterfinals discussion: Uruguay vs. Ghana

[Batu7]

Man if I'm Suarez I don't think I leave my house the rest of the time I'm in Africa.

I'd just leave the continent. Is he going to have a 2 game suspension?

[_SRV_]

You mean he didn't fall for all your flops.

I loved Uruguay ever since Francescoli and because I like underdogs but that's just part of their game. An ugly one. But all South American teams do it, it's the culture. Suarez is the biggest flopper of the Eredivisie, even to the point it haunted him so he cut it out of his game. I knew he still does it every chance he gets though if he thinks he can get away with it. Just like the handball, and act all surprised when he got the red card. He's just ruthless, and basicly the whole team is. You don't care how you win even if it means disgracing yourself. No offense because in a way I can appreciate it.

Home court advantage indeed. If there's a Ghana-Uruguay rematch in Brazil in 2014 guess who will have the most supporters there? It's not quantum physics.

Way to show your drama queen skills and ignorance dude, stopping the ball from entering the goal at the last second of the game is disgraceful? Suarez is Ruthless for acting innocent for 2 seconds?

[pass first]

Yes I think it's disgraceful. If you think that's ignorant then you don't know what ignorant means. And that makes you the ignorant one. And you're acting like a drama queen as well. The irony.

Anyways, it's fine to think it's not a disgraceful foul. That's just an opinion.

As for my opinion on Suarez, he played one year for my hometown team, so believe you me, I know his style and his tricks. I see him play often enough still because he still plays in the Dutch league. Knowledge is the opposite of ignorance and I know Suarez. He is ruthless. It's actually one of his best qualities.

[pass first]

First of all, home advantage ? it wasnt South Africa playing, we already beat them 3-0, it was GHANA vs Uruguay. Would have been called home advantage if a game played in Italy between Germany and Ghana has the whole stadium booing Ghana ? I dont think so.

Second, the ref was fine ? he ignored two penalties for us, one of them, the play of the final penalty first of all wasnt even a foul and then the player was in offside before the hand happened...

I've seen a replay and no offside.

[ItalianBull]

First of all, home advantage ? it wasnt South Africa playing, we already beat them 3-0, it was GHANA vs Uruguay. Would have been called home advantage if a game played in Italy between Germany and Ghana has the whole stadium booing Ghana ? I dont think so.

Second, the ref was fine ? he ignored two penalties for us, one of them, the play of the final penalty first of all wasnt even a foul and then the player was in offside before the hand happened...

Its Africa dude.. they desperately wanted someone to represent them in the Semis for the first time. Also don't talk about fans in Europe, they are the same people that threw bananas at Samuel Eto and Patrick Viera from time to time.

So you are going to blame all european fans just because some of them are racist ?

[_SRV_]

Yes I think it's disgraceful. If you think that's ignorant then you don't know what ignorant means. And that makes you the ignorant one. And you're acting like a drama queen as well. The irony.

Anyways, it's fine to think it's not a disgraceful foul. That's just an opinion.

As for my opinion on Suarez, he played one year for my hometown team, so believe you me, I know his style and his tricks. I see him play often enough still because he still plays in the Dutch league. Knowledge is the opposite of ignorance and I know Suarez. He is ruthless. It's actually one of his best qualities.

That's not an opinion, The ball was going in and they were losing the game and going home from a great tournament, every player MUST stop this ball, there is no argument about it.

[_SRV_]

And about you opinion of Suarez, I'm sensing deeper issues here, I had no idea who he is before the tournament, and he seems like a really good player, he flops, most strikers do, few don't.

[pass first]

That's not an opinion, The ball was going in and they were losing the game and going home from a great tournament, every player MUST stop this ball, there is no argument about it.

I know. I don't blame him for doing it, it's shows his passion and competitiveness. I think his reaction to the penalty miss was one of the best tv moments of the tournament.

But as an amateur, fan of the game, it's those fouls that I hate the most. Cynical fouls that prevent or cause goals. That includes willingly bring down a player through on goal, scoring with your hand, and flopping in the box. I think it is a disgrace to win by doing any of the above. Quite happy that it's not in our national team's repertoire; we don't need it.

[ItalianBull]

First of all, home advantage ? it wasnt South Africa playing, we already beat them 3-0, it was GHANA vs Uruguay. Would have been called home advantage if a game played in Italy between Germany and Ghana has the whole stadium booing Ghana ? I dont think so.

Second, the ref was fine ? he ignored two penalties for us, one of them, the play of the final penalty first of all wasnt even a foul and then the player was in offside before the hand happened...

I've seen a replay and no offside.

There has to be two players between him and the goal line and there was only one. I havent seen the replay, but im pretty sure there was only one player. And dont forget about the penalty against Abreu in OT.

[_SRV_]

Flopping can be called a disgrace, but it's so common you should switch to Tennis to avoid it. There is nothing wrong or disgraceful about denying a goal and keeping your team's and country's hopes up, if it was a dutch player doing this you'll understand more.

[pass first]

And about you opinion of Suarez, I'm sensing deeper issues here, I had no idea who he is before the tournament, and he seems like a really good player, he flops, most strikers do, few don't.

No, I actually like him. He was great for my home team, brought a real fire at the club. Only stayed one year (and forced himself out), but I didn't care too long because we got a similar talent right away (Marcus Berg, now HSV). Funny thing is I was working in local media at the time and I actually interviewed him once or twice. So only because of that I got a soft spot for him. Not many players from our team turn into bonafide stars anyway, so if one does then that's always nice to see.

Most strikers flop but Suarez takes it to another level imo. Not even that their bad flops they're actually great flops. Seriously he's damn good at it. But there was a time in the Eredivisie that he couldn't buy a penalty kick because of his reputation. He changed his behavior, and frankly, that shows again his professionalism. And in the Eredivisie he doesn't need it. On Uruguay though, he does. Plus he doesn't have the bad reputation on the international level so all the tricks are out of the bag. I knew it. Suarez gives it his all every time always, and that includes everything, defending, chasing, etc. Not a coincidence he was on the goalline in the scrimmage guy is a competitor all the way. I totally respect and admire that. And I think it's typical for Uruguayan players. And part of that is anything goes.

[pass first]

First of all, home advantage ? it wasnt South Africa playing, we already beat them 3-0, it was GHANA vs Uruguay. Would have been called home advantage if a game played in Italy between Germany and Ghana has the whole stadium booing Ghana ? I dont think so.

Second, the ref was fine ? he ignored two penalties for us, one of them, the play of the final penalty first of all wasnt even a foul and then the player was in offside before the hand happened...

I've seen a replay and no offside.

There has to be two players between him and the goal line and there was only one. I havent seen the replay, but im pretty sure there was only one player. And dont forget about the penalty against Abreu in OT.

Hmm can't picture it right now (Abreu).

I don't remember exactly how it was but I think the guy came from behind walking up to the goal and had at least two players in front. or he was behind the ball. I specifically paid attention to offside or not though so I'm sure it wasn't.

[pass first]

Flopping can be called a disgrace, but it's so common you should switch to Tennis to avoid it. There is nothing wrong or disgraceful about denying a goal and keeping your team's and country's hopes up, if it was a dutch player doing this you'll understand more.

Well, perhaps. But he wouldn't be called a hero I don't think. We would be kind of ashamed to win like that I think. But obviously can't tell for sure until it would happen, which is highly unlikely.

Tennis sucks haha. I have accepted flopping is part of the game - except that it must be punished of course, and the refs are doing a good job generally. Worst penalty was probably Slovakia against us, no major blown calls or anything.

I was just mentioning the handball and how Suarez acted after that as an example of his behavior and demeanor, which was going to the point of Martin that Uruguay should have had two penalties. The referee is a very informed man and he knows the Uruguayan football. So where Martin claims two penalties that's where the ref disagreed and that played a part. He waived a lot of faked fouls off throughout the game.

[ThreeYearPlan]

Man if I'm Suarez I don't think I leave my house the rest of the time I'm in Africa.

he's probably gonna get nothing but booty for the rest of the time he's in Africa

[Foye]

Wow that was epic goalkeeping by Suarez. Great stuff, he really saved his team from being out of the tourney there.

[FAB0L0US]

I was SOOOOO happy when Uruguay won. Now wishing and wishing and wishing they somehow make it to the Finals. It would make me a happy camper to see them win it all. Unlikely but hey, so is Uruguay in the semis too

Suarez, lol, EPIC PLAY!!!