Fantasy Trade Thread

[The J Rocka]

PHI in: Nene
PHI out: Iggy

MIN in: Iggy
MIN out: Al Jefferson

DEN in: Al Jefferson
DEN out: Nene

Maybe get some picks involved and/or players

[BringBackKorver]

Better be a heck of a lot of picks involved. Even though he's the type of player we would be looking for, Nene is too old to be part of our core moving forward. It just ends up being a 1-2 year rental that keeps us sitting at a road playoff series.

No thanks.

[bdownbear]

PHI in: Nene
PHI out: Iggy

MIN in: Iggy
MIN out: Al Jefferson

DEN in: Al Jefferson
DEN out: Nene

Maybe get some picks involved and/or players

Nene is worse than Jefferson....If we have no interest in Jefferson then why would we want Nene. We are definitely not looking for just cap for Iguodala.

[The J Rocka]

Nene/Hawes
Brand/Speights
Thad/Nocioni
Turner/Green
Jrue/Lou

vs.

Hawes/Speights
Brand/Speights
Iggy/Thad
Turner/Nocioni/Green
Jrue/Lou

You guys look like and are a better team with the first lineup IMO. That's fine to decline, personally I think it makes sense for every team but it's cool.

[The J Rocka]

Ok what if we send you guys Sessions, Ellington, or Brewer?

[BringBackKorver]

Ok what if we send you guys Sessions, Ellington, or Brewer?

Like I said, regardless of what Nene brings on the court he won't be here in 2012 when we want to compete. Bringing in Nene at the cost of Iguodala doesn't get us out of the first round, and I personally think we're better with Iggy than Nene. If we're trading Iguodala it has to be for a young player with a good contract and great fit for the team. Otherwise we're just trading a 26 year old very good all around player for nothing.

None of those guys is good enough to make us pull the trigger.

[Point-God]

Nene is too old to be part of our core moving forward. It just ends up

Nene will turn 28 in September. The best players on the two teams competing for the 2010 championship were all in there 30's. Unless you are implying that the Sixers will not be competing for a championship until Jrue and Turner are in their 30's, In 4 seasons when Nene turns 32 he will not be too old to compete for a title. Veterans and superstars are key components to winning NBA titles.

If NeNe's body begins breaking down like Elton Brand's, that's a different issue. Unlike Elton, Nene is physically an elite athlete and has kept himself in tremendous shape.

[The Sixer Fixer]

Jerk? Come on we are talking about a guys hieght and people are argueing how to measure someone, the only way that I have ever seen someone mesured is with there shoes off. I just have a hard time continueing a serious conversation when people start useing cemantics but thanks for the name calling, I'm sure your a gem of a guy but hey have a happy fourth anyway buddy.

Wow, no offense, but some people might have a hard time continuing a written conversation when the other people can't spell or use proper grammar. I find it so hard to take people seriously when they can't spell at all.

Not saying this is you, but I find it really funny when people can't even spell the name of the players on the Sixers. I don't know who it was, but I saw a few posts the other day where someone spelled Speights "Spreights" or something like that every time he wrote the name. Personally, I stop reading a post as soon as I see that...you lose all credibility with stuff like that.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I like Nene as a reasonable obtainable big man, that could still yet develop into a nasty C in the league.

I also wouldn't mind giving Eddy Curry a try to recapture his game in somewhere other then NY, aka the city of losers.

[BringBackKorver]

Nene is too old to be part of our core moving forward. It just ends up

Nene will turn 28 in September. The best players on the two teams competing for the 2010 championship were all in there 30's. Unless you are implying that the Sixers will not be competing for a championship until Jrue and Turner are in their 30's, In 4 seasons when Nene turns 32 he will not be too old to compete for a title. Veterans and superstars are key components to winning NBA titles.

If NeNe's body begins breaking down like Elton Brand's, that's a different issue. Unlike Elton, Nene is physically an elite athlete and has kept himself in tremendous shape.

I'm just saying that if we want to get older, it shouldn't be by trading Iguodala. The two teams playing for the championship had most of their core players the same age. So what if they're in their 30s? They are old teams. You want your talent to overlap if you're going for longevity, but you have to be at a high enough level to be able to wait for that talent to develop. Our talent is all young, so to me we either trade some young guys to get older and win sooner, or we trade our older guy to get a little younger and mesh with the young guys.

A team like the Thunder can afford to throw out a 26 year old to get a 27/28 year old because they are close enough to take that next step. Our team isn't. We need one more young piece (or we need to hold on to Iguodala) to get a core that could compete in a few years.

Don't know if that makes sense, sorry for rambling.

[76ciology]

Nene is too old to be part of our core moving forward. It just ends up

Nene will turn 28 in September. The best players on the two teams competing for the 2010 championship were all in there 30's. Unless you are implying that the Sixers will not be competing for a championship until Jrue and Turner are in their 30's, In 4 seasons when Nene turns 32 he will not be too old to compete for a title. Veterans and superstars are key components to winning NBA titles.

If NeNe's body begins breaking down like Elton Brand's, that's a different issue. Unlike Elton, Nene is physically an elite athlete and has kept himself in tremendous shape.

I'm just saying that if we want to get older, it shouldn't be by trading Iguodala. The two teams playing for the championship had most of their core players the same age. So what if they're in their 30s? They are old teams. You want your talent to overlap if you're going for longevity, but you have to be at a high enough level to be able to wait for that talent to develop. Our talent is all young, so to me we either trade some young guys to get older and win sooner, or we trade our older guy to get a little younger and mesh with the young guys.

A team like the Thunder can afford to throw out a 26 year old to get a 27/28 year old because they are close enough to take that next step. Our team isn't. We need one more young piece (or we need to hold on to Iguodala) to get a core that could compete in a few years.

Don't know if that makes sense, sorry for rambling.

It's not about the age. It's about being the better team.

[ZarcMumoff]

It's not about the age. It's about being the better team.

Because we are building for the future. Kaman and Nene are band-aids, period. Get a young center or PF, and build your team. There is no sense in trading a 26 year old SF who is one of the best all-around players in the league (Offense-Defense) if you aren't getting young pieces to put with your young team. Do you really think Nene or Kaman make this team any better?

You can always say Kaman and Nene are only 28, but honestly, do you think any team is winning a championship with Chris Kaman or Nene as there starting Center? Because I surely don't see it. If we are trading a major player in our franchise, no band-aids like last time. Build the team correctly because it will work out in the long run.

To put it simply, if we trade Iguodala for an older player, I'll be pissed. I can't understand why anyone would want either of them. Just completely foolish, imo. It pretty much screams "WIN NOW". If we want to do that, why are we trading Iguodala?

Either we trade Iguodala for a young player or we trade him for an all-star. Since we aren't getting an All-Star PF/C, getting a true young piece is 100% the way to go.

Also, not like Iguodala is old. Only 26. Difference between 26 and 28 is rather significant as well.

[76ciology]

To put it simply, if we trade Iguodala for an older player, I'll be pissed. I can't understand why anyone would want either of them. Just completely foolish, imo. It pretty much screams "WIN NOW". If we want to do that, why are we trading Iguodala?

Either we trade Iguodala for a young player or we trade him for an all-star. Since we aren't getting an All-Star PF/C, getting a true young piece is 100% the way to go.

Also, not like Iguodala is old. Only 26. Difference between 26 and 28 is rather significant as well.

If you want to win now, why do you keep Iggy then?

I don't think we can go any further with our Hawes-EB42 frontcourt, right now it's our Achilles heel.

Iggy's a good player, but we've got much more important needs than what Iggy provides for our time right now. Sorry for Iggy fans, but the addition of Turner makes him expendable. I'm not saying Iggy is not needed anymore. But in my opinion, there are a lot of services that our guys can substitute if he's traded. And now is the time to trade him.

Why now?

This Offseason..
He's around a 18/6/6 player (based on last 3 season's stats);
Not overpaid (see Gay and JJ's offers);
A Ticket to lure LeBron

Post Offseason
I see his stats dropping with the addition of Turner. (just my opinion)
Back to being overpaid, specially with the CBA thing coming up.
Dwight's sweepstakes Killer. (contract's a year longer)

Most offers we're getting for Iggy are for guys who can also CONTRIBUTE, not projects. With that said, trading Iggy also gives us a chance to compete right now.

At the end of the day, it's about trading the same level of talents but filling different needs. Some teams need a SF, while for us we need a PF/C player who can give our frontcourt some rebounding and size.

[sem3376]

I am def guilty of the spelling and grammar errors, usually its typing fast and sometimes not, everybody knows what I am saying and we are not writing english papers Thank goodness for me. I really don't want to come off lik a jerk although I def do when I read back some of my post later. I just get passionate about the sixers and have strong opinions. If I have offended anyone with my post or grammer I apoligize because its definately not my intent.

[is1531]

It's hard getting a quality PF or center if we trade Iggy, simply because teams don't have extra quality players to trade, unless your thinking of an Iggy for Bynum deal.

[ZarcMumoff]

To put it simply, if we trade Iguodala for an older player, I'll be pissed. I can't understand why anyone would want either of them. Just completely foolish, imo. It pretty much screams "WIN NOW". If we want to do that, why are we trading Iguodala?

Either we trade Iguodala for a young player or we trade him for an all-star. Since we aren't getting an All-Star PF/C, getting a true young piece is 100% the way to go.

Also, not like Iguodala is old. Only 26. Difference between 26 and 28 is rather significant as well.

If you want to win now, why do you keep Iggy then?

I don't think we can go any further with our Hawes-EB42 frontcourt, right now it's our Achilles heel.

Iggy's a good player, but we've got much more important needs than what Iggy provides for our time right now. Sorry for Iggy fans, but the addition of Turner makes him expendable. I'm not saying Iggy is not needed anymore. But in my opinion, there are a lot of services that our guys can substitute if he's traded. And now is the time to trade him.

Why now?

This Offseason..
He's around a 18/6/6 player (based on last 3 season's stats);
Not overpaid (see Gay and JJ's offers);
A Ticket to lure LeBron

Post Offseason
I see his stats dropping with the addition of Turner. (just my opinion)
Back to being overpaid, specially with the CBA thing coming up.
Dwight's sweepstakes Killer. (contract's a year longer)

Most offers we're getting for Iggy are for guys who can also CONTRIBUTE, not projects. With that said, trading Iggy also gives us a chance to compete right now.

At the end of the day, it's about trading the same level of talents but filling different needs. Some teams need a SF, while for us we need a PF/C player who can give our frontcourt some rebounding and size.

Because Iguodala is still young, and be apart of this young team going forward. But compare that too a 22 year old Thad Young. If you want to win now, do you want to keep Iguodala? A finish product? Or Thad Young who can't even play the position he should be playing yet?

Who cares if Hawes and Brand suck! So we get another lottery pick, great. Hawes can leave after this year if we don't like him, and Brand isn't apart of this teams future. He shouldn't even be thought about on when thinking about this team going forward.

I'm all for trading Iguodala, but so it is for a YOUNG player. DeAndre Jordan, Lamarcus Aldridge, Derrick Favors...those types of players. Getting Chris Kaman or Nene does not make your team a Championship Contending team. I would bet not even a 2nd round team. We shouldn't think about getting our team better for next year unless it pushes us for a championship. Kaman and Nene are NOT those types of players. Hell, I rather have Dalembert over Nene.

Build for the future, not next season. If we trade Iguodala, young players. Not band-aids.

[Wydmuch]

Philly : Thad, Meeks
Golden State : Azuibuke, 2nd round

Before you call me a bum, let me explain how much problems this trade resolves.
1) Iguodala can play in peace the SF position, without having to worry Thad playing the PF position. Also, Iggy not playing ths SG, wont take minutes from Turner.
2) Azuibuke can hit 3s AND play defense - so he's not a one-dimension player, like Morrow, Webster, and other shooters. So we have a nice backup for Turner and dont have to worry about losing range/defense on the court.
3) Without Thad, Brand/Spreights can have the PF position for themselfs.

How about it?

[thaddeusyoungin]

Philly : Thad, Meeks
Golden State : Azuibuke, 2nd round

Before you call me a bum, let me explain how much problems this trade resolves.
1) Iguodala can play in peace the SF position, without having to worry Thad playing the PF position. Also, Iggy not playing ths SG, wont take minutes from Turner.
2) Azuibuke can hit 3s AND play defense - so he's not a one-dimension player, like Morrow, Webster, and other shooters. So we have a nice backup for Turner and dont have to worry about losing range/defense on the court.
3) Without Thad, Brand/Spreights can have the PF position for themselfs.

How about it?

Azubuike is coming off a serious injury. Doesn't have much value. Take out Meeks and make the Golden State 2nd rounder a top 7 protected 1st rounder and you got a deal.

[youngcrev]

Not trading Thad for a worse player (with lower upside) on a one year contract. Our backup minutes are pretty set with a 3 guard rotation of Holiday-Turner-Williams, with Green and Meek providing depth. We've got good competition at forward with Young, Brand, Speights and Nocioni, with Iguodala getting the lions share of SF minutes. Healthy competition is not a bad thing, and I'm not making a trade to avoid it (unless it actually helps us in a weak area ~ like a defensive big man)

[is1531]

Philly : Thad, Meeks
Golden State : Azuibuke, 2nd round

Before you call me a bum, let me explain how much problems this trade resolves.
1) Iguodala can play in peace the SF position, without having to worry Thad playing the PF position. Also, Iggy not playing ths SG, wont take minutes from Turner.
2) Azuibuke can hit 3s AND play defense - so he's not a one-dimension player, like Morrow, Webster, and other shooters. So we have a nice backup for Turner and dont have to worry about losing range/defense on the court.
3) Without Thad, Brand/Spreights can have the PF position for themselfs.

How about it?

No deal. It's bad for the 76ers.