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A couple interesting thoughts regarding Wes:
--He told Tom Kirtland on Sports Beat Sunday that he would pick which ever team was the best "business decision". No hometown discount for the Jazz.
--The Jazz are selling Matthews T-shirts with the new Jazz logo/colors, but they aren't doing the same with Boozer or Korver.
I think the Jazz match almost any offer Wes gets. We may overpay due to other teams pulling a "Portland" on us.
--He told Tom Kirtland on Sports Beat Sunday that he would pick which ever team was the best "business decision". No hometown discount for the Jazz.
--The Jazz are selling Matthews T-shirts with the new Jazz logo/colors, but they aren't doing the same with Boozer or Korver.
I think the Jazz match almost any offer Wes gets. We may overpay due to other teams pulling a "Portland" on us.
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Agreed, we'll have to use the full MLE to retain him, I think.
Booz and Korver are gone.
Booz and Korver are gone.

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xstockholmsyndromex wrote:A couple interesting thoughts regarding Wes:
--He told Tom Kirtland on Sports Beat Sunday that he would pick which ever team was the best "business decision". No hometown discount for the Jazz.
--The Jazz are selling Matthews T-shirts with the new Jazz logo/colors, but they aren't doing the same with Boozer or Korver.
I think the Jazz match almost any offer Wes gets. We may overpay due to other teams pulling a "Portland" on us.
IMHO:
"Business decison" not always is all about money; Matthews wouldn't have the value he has today had he played for a non playoff team (because no one would have watched him raising his numbers in playoff games). The same thing can be said had he played for a team lacking the coaching staff willing to give an undrafted rookie the reigns of the starting SG.... Those things have to be considered business related things too, because this is not the last contract he will get..
- Jazz just cannot retain Boozer or Korver. Boozer will be receiving big money because there's enough money out there and he's a perfect fit with a couple or more tams. Korver have just broken NBA trey percentage record and he will be receiving MLE type of money.
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It sux that the Blazers are going to do the same thing they did to the Jazz last season and try to steal one of their players. Matthews is good, but is he really a MLE guy? I'm not so sure, but the Jazz can't lose him.
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I don't know that Wes won't be an MLE guy after this next season or the year after...so if we overpay him for a year or two, I'm fine with it.
He reminds me of a less athletic, but more active Bryon Russell. Loved B-Russ as a kid, already have a man crush on Matthews. I may cry if we don't retain him.
He reminds me of a less athletic, but more active Bryon Russell. Loved B-Russ as a kid, already have a man crush on Matthews. I may cry if we don't retain him.
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I can understand the business-related comment. Just means he wants other teams to make a pitc for Utah to match. Otherwise, he gets the 900K qualifying the Jazz offered.
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Yeah, I don't begrudge him such remarks. He'll be back with the Jazz; he just wants to make sure Utah will give him a fair deal, based on what else is out there. And we will. Even if we have to spend the MLE, he'll be back. And two years from now, that may end up looking like a steal.
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Ugh, if he demans the MLE I'd look elsewhere. He's nice to have around right now, but he isn't worth more 4 mil a year at most. It would be a tough pill to swallow having him around for the full MLE.
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Bat wrote:Ugh, if he demans the MLE I'd look elsewhere. He's nice to have around right now, but he isn't worth more 4 mil a year at most. It would be a tough pill to swallow having him around for the full MLE.
?? And what alternatives would you suggest we spend out MLE on at the SG position?
Mathews did everything we asked of him and so much more last season. He made Brewers departure look like a "ho hum" move and not a "OMFG" move. He showed no fear against Kobe, and showed an excellent offensive/defensive game all as an undrafted rookie. In 1-2 years he very well may warrant MLE money. I'd pay the MLE to keep him, because for us last year, his game translated into an MLE type player.

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Agree, Carkeefe. Wes easily made an MLE contribution this season. He's a tough, intelligent player a la Shane Battier, and he'll be a tradeable asset for the duration of his contract.
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Bullet wrote:I can understand the business-related comment. Just means he wants other teams to make a pitc for Utah to match. Otherwise, he gets the 900K qualifying the Jazz offered.
Not necessarily. Until Matthews signs something, he and the Jazz can negotiate a contract completely independent of the qualifying offer and any other offers made by other teams.
How crazy is it that for the next couple of years Wesley will likely be the top paid player from last year's draft class?

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CarrKeefe wrote:Bat wrote:Ugh, if he demans the MLE I'd look elsewhere. He's nice to have around right now, but he isn't worth more 4 mil a year at most. It would be a tough pill to swallow having him around for the full MLE.
?? And what alternatives would you suggest we spend out MLE on at the SG position?
Mathews did everything we asked of him and so much more last season. He made Brewers departure look like a "ho hum" move and not a "OMFG" move. He showed no fear against Kobe, and showed an excellent offensive/defensive game all as an undrafted rookie. In 1-2 years he very well may warrant MLE money. I'd pay the MLE to keep him, because for us last year, his game translated into an MLE type player.
You are falling into the "have money must spend" mentality that cripples financially cautious teams like the Jazz from being able to compete for the better than average FA's. The MLE is going to be about 6 million dollars a year this year. Is Wes Matthews a 6 million dollar a year player with nearly 500,000 a year pay increases through out the life on the contract? That is a ton of money for an SG with limited upside who isn't superb at anything other than hustling.
I love Matthews, and he was definitely one of the bright points for the Jazz last year. But part of the excitement factor was that we knew he made such little money. Give him CJ MIles 3.7 million dollar contract, very similar stats, and realize that he's 6 months older than CJ and you start to see his actual value.
5 years 32 million dollars is just a lot for a guy who may not be starting for the team as early as this season. If AK stays healthy and CJ continues to play like he did in the playoffs I think you are looking at Matthews coming off the bench to start the year. 6.4 per for a back up SG is a ton, especially when the only big man on the team is Paul Millsap.
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I think matthews is worth the MLE. As a rookie, he was our best perimeter defender and shot 38% from deep. He has an excellent work ethic, which should translate into marked improvement over this summer. He can be a starting SG on a championship team, and even the full MLE would still make him a very tradeable asset. Keep our assets, bet on the boy's work ethic, resign him.
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Bat wrote:You are falling into the "have money must spend" mentality that cripples financially cautious teams like the Jazz from being able to compete for the better than average FA's. The MLE is going to be about 6 million dollars a year this year. Is Wes Matthews a 6 million dollar a year player with nearly 500,000 a year pay increases through out the life on the contract? That is a ton of money for an SG with limited upside who isn't superb at anything other than hustling.
I love Matthews, and he was definitely one of the bright points for the Jazz last year. But part of the excitement factor was that we knew he made such little money. Give him CJ MIles 3.7 million dollar contract, very similar stats, and realize that he's 6 months older than CJ and you start to see his actual value.
5 years 32 million dollars is just a lot for a guy who may not be starting for the team as early as this season. If AK stays healthy and CJ continues to play like he did in the playoffs I think you are looking at Matthews coming off the bench to start the year. 6.4 per for a back up SG is a ton, especially when the only big man on the team is Paul Millsap.
Wesley Mathews was our starting SG last year. AK was healthy, as was CJ Miles, and Mathews was still starting. There's a reason why Mathews started games for us and that was because of his high basketball IQ, and his committment to defense and offense. Not to mention his consistency. CJ and AK have failed time and time again to be consistent and both gamble too much on defense. AK is not a SG nor will he play SG for the Jazz especially if Boozer and Korver leave.
Wesley Mathews was our starting SG to close the season and he didn't disappoint. All this as an undrafted rookie. He's only going to get better and his skillset will continue to improve just as Paul Millsaps, our other steal, made.
Again, Mathews did everything the Jazz asked of him last year and so much more. His consistency and confidence proved that he wasn't just a fluke. His play warranted the MLE and the Jazz would be wise to keep their starting SG. Boozers and Korvers contracts will be coming off the books as will AK's next year. And with Jazz brass trying actively to re-sign Boozer, I don't think using the MLE is a concern for the Jazz. They look at AK's contract coming off the books next year with a sigh of relief.
Bottom line, Matthews is our starting SG, As an undrafted rookie he managed to put up similar stats to CJ and was far more consistent on both ends of the floor. Pay him the MLE and ensure our SG position isn't a glaring concern going into next season. Letting him walk and seeing Korver go would be moronic.

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Bat wrote:CarrKeefe wrote:Bat wrote:Ugh, if he demans the MLE I'd look elsewhere. He's nice to have around right now, but he isn't worth more 4 mil a year at most. It would be a tough pill to swallow having him around for the full MLE.
?? And what alternatives would you suggest we spend out MLE on at the SG position?
Mathews did everything we asked of him and so much more last season. He made Brewers departure look like a "ho hum" move and not a "OMFG" move. He showed no fear against Kobe, and showed an excellent offensive/defensive game all as an undrafted rookie. In 1-2 years he very well may warrant MLE money. I'd pay the MLE to keep him, because for us last year, his game translated into an MLE type player.
You are falling into the "have money must spend" mentality that cripples financially cautious teams like the Jazz from being able to compete for the better than average FA's. The MLE is going to be about 6 million dollars a year this year. Is Wes Matthews a 6 million dollar a year player with nearly 500,000 a year pay increases through out the life on the contract? That is a ton of money for an SG with limited upside who isn't superb at anything other than hustling.
I love Matthews, and he was definitely one of the bright points for the Jazz last year. But part of the excitement factor was that we knew he made such little money. Give him CJ MIles 3.7 million dollar contract, very similar stats, and realize that he's 6 months older than CJ and you start to see his actual value.
5 years 32 million dollars is just a lot for a guy who may not be starting for the team as early as this season. If AK stays healthy and CJ continues to play like he did in the playoffs I think you are looking at Matthews coming off the bench to start the year. 6.4 per for a back up SG is a ton, especially when the only big man on the team is Paul Millsap.
The MLE for him isn't crippling though. It's not about having the money, it's about spending the money on players that will make the difference. Wes is a difference making player.
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5 year, 25 million dollar contract, first three guaranteed, last two are team options.
Matthews gets huge pay increase, gets long term security, and Jazz get insurance in case he doesn't improve like we hope the Jazz can cut him loose after 3 years. He still gets a lifetime worth of money, and gives the Jazz financial flexibility if they need it.
Matthews gets huge pay increase, gets long term security, and Jazz get insurance in case he doesn't improve like we hope the Jazz can cut him loose after 3 years. He still gets a lifetime worth of money, and gives the Jazz financial flexibility if they need it.
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I'd give Matthews the MLE no problem. He's the best SG we've had in a while.
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