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[Preludepunk27]

Who posts over there? The kids are as dumb as rocks. I have no clue how they could be as homerish as Knicks fans.

A bunch of them are like "Lebon's going to the Knicks. I know it. I'm gonna cry." Then they come up with this completely (Please Use More Appropriate Word) logic. I'm sorry: Dano, Chandler (guys play the same position as Lebron) and Amare is not better than Harris, Lee, Twill, Favors, Lopez. It's laughable. Lebron is a Cav or a Net. No other team. I hate the New York media. So many of them are flat out smart bus kids that you can't not think the Knicks pay part of their salary. The other issue is a lot of journalists are Northwestern or U of Chicago grads so they sweat on the Chicago media. Call me ignorant, but the only 2 teams in this race are the Cavs and Nets. I think it's a 75% shot he stays in Cleveland anyway. I'm just saying the other 25% is soley us and ours to lose.

Miami was never a realistic option

Knicks can't put a championship team together witht he remaining space. They'll bring in some over the hill vets, probably have to ship out their young guys since they play Lebron's position anyway. That team will never be more than a Conference Finals team at best.

Chicago knows Lebron and Derrick Rose cannot co-exist together. You can try to argue about it but it is a fact.. Plus, that IS DERRICK'S TEAM. Even with Lebron, that locker room belongs to Derrick. Lebron won't like being treated as a hired gun like that this early in his career.

The ONLY play he can go that will put him in the position that he is used to and comfortable with that is not named Cleveland is New Jersey. He will be the leader, the star, but he has a solid group of young potential all-stars that can be locked up for a long time, he has the draft picks to continue the team on that path and the cap space to also add a very good running mate to the mix as well.

This is rediculous the national media disregards this. They want the story line of Lebron saving the Knicks franchise or Lebron attempting to fill Michael Jordan's shoes because these writers lack the talent to have an original thought in their head.

[Revolutionistt]

I dont know. The Nets are clearly better than the Knicks, but not so much than the Bulls. Noah is overrated in my eyes, but the team still made the playoffs. Rose is better than any guard on the Nets, and if Lebron goes to Chicago Im sure Lee or Boozer will as well with no hesitation.

Derricks team? That guy is as quiet as a Nets home game. Hes a great player but hes no leader by any means. Besides, nobody in their right minds would not move over to allow Lebron to run the team.

[Preludepunk27]

I dont know. The Nets are clearly better than the Knicks, but not so much than the Bulls. Noah is overrated in my eyes, but the team still made the playoffs. Rose is better than any guard on the Nets, and if Lebron goes to Chicago Im sure Lee or Boozer will as well with no hesitation.

Derricks team? That guy is as quiet as a Nets home game. Hes a great player but hes no leader by any means. Besides, nobody in their right minds would not move over to allow Lebron to run the team.

Did you miss the Bulls in the playoffs? The kid carried them. Quiet on the court doesn't mean he doesn't have control of the team. Fact of the matter is, you can make the argument for Boozer and Lee for us as well. Besides Derick being better than any guard on the Nets, we are better and deeper in every other position (Yes, that is bold when discussing Twill vs Deng, but all around Twill owns on Deng even at this point in both of their careers). Plus Rose and Lebron both need the ball in their hands to be affective. Devin showed that is not the case with him when we had Vince. Our system is set up so much more evenly and complete than any other team he is considering.

You put Lebron and Lee/Boozer on our roster and put them up against the Bulls with Lebron and Lee/Boozer, I'm putting my money on us. Rose isn't enough to overtake us when we'd dominate them at the 2 and 5 positions.

[Revolutionistt]

I dont know. The Nets are clearly better than the Knicks, but not so much than the Bulls. Noah is overrated in my eyes, but the team still made the playoffs. Rose is better than any guard on the Nets, and if Lebron goes to Chicago Im sure Lee or Boozer will as well with no hesitation.

Derricks team? That guy is as quiet as a Nets home game. Hes a great player but hes no leader by any means. Besides, nobody in their right minds would not move over to allow Lebron to run the team.

Did you miss the Bulls in the playoffs? The kid carried them. Quiet on the court doesn't mean he doesn't have control of the team. Fact of the matter is, you can make the argument for Boozer and Lee for us as well. Besides Derick being better than any guard on the Nets, we are better and deeper in every other position (Yes, that is bold when discussing Twill vs Deng, but all around Twill owns on Deng even at this point in both of their careers). Plus Rose and Lebron both need the ball in their hands to be affective. Devin showed that is not the case with him when we had Vince. Our system is set up so much more evenly and complete than any other team he is considering.

You put Lebron and Lee/Boozer on our roster and put them up against the Bulls with Lebron and Lee/Boozer, I'm putting my money on us. Rose isn't enough to overtake us when we'd dominate them at the 2 and 5 positions.

So youre saying Rose can carry the Bulls in the playoffs but not carry them to beat the Nets? I agree hes an excellent player, but you mentioned that in the locker room it is Derricks team, thats why I mentioned hes quiet. I doubt he leads the team in any pregame rituals or riles them up in the locker room.

[Preludepunk27]

He lost in the playoffs didn't he? Just saying, if you cloned Lebron and either Boozer or Lee and put them on both our rosters as of today...we're better easily. You're forgetting everyone the Bulls lost of actual importance as well.

As for pre-game rituals, I'm sure Noah handles that since he's nuts but why are you focusing on the flashy things? Kmart did it for us in our finals years...was he or Jason Kidd our leader? Kidd was never loud, energetic, outspoken on the court. He did all of his major talking in the locker room. I don't know why a pre-game ritual constitutues leadership in your eyes.

Another case in point...Derek Fisher. He does the pre-game rituals for the Lakers. Is that not Kobe's team? I'm just saying, though my argument me have blinders on since I'm so close to the situation, your argument there is equally flawed.

[demens]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

[treiz]

I dont know. The Nets are clearly better than the Knicks, but not so much than the Bulls. Noah is overrated in my eyes, but the team still made the playoffs. Rose is better than any guard on the Nets, and if Lebron goes to Chicago Im sure Lee or Boozer will as well with no hesitation.

Derricks team? That guy is as quiet as a Nets home game. Hes a great player but hes no leader by any means. Besides, nobody in their right minds would not move over to allow Lebron to run the team.

Did you miss the Bulls in the playoffs? The kid carried them. Quiet on the court doesn't mean he doesn't have control of the team. Fact of the matter is, you can make the argument for Boozer and Lee for us as well. Besides Derick being better than any guard on the Nets, we are better and deeper in every other position (Yes, that is bold when discussing Twill vs Deng, but all around Twill owns on Deng even at this point in both of their careers). Plus Rose and Lebron both need the ball in their hands to be affective. Devin showed that is not the case with him when we had Vince. Our system is set up so much more evenly and complete than any other team he is considering.

You put Lebron and Lee/Boozer on our roster and put them up against the Bulls with Lebron and Lee/Boozer, I'm putting my money on us. Rose isn't enough to overtake us when we'd dominate them at the 2 and 5 positions.

So youre saying Rose can carry the Bulls in the playoffs but not carry them to beat the Nets? I agree hes an excellent player, but you mentioned that in the locker room it is Derricks team, thats why I mentioned hes quiet. I doubt he leads the team in any pregame rituals or riles them up in the locker room.

Leading is not all about shouting at the top of your lungs or even throwing powder in the air. Sometimes, it's the "lead by example" approach that gets guys to follow you. Tim Duncan for example was not the loud guy, but you can bet he was a fantastic leader. Just playing and putting/leading your team and managing you colleagues to a situation to succeed consistently rather than having to rally more often than not IMO is what makes a true leader.

[treiz]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Wrong, it's actually optimism. But hey I'm part of that bandwagon.

[RJ 24]

You want to see bad go to the FootballsFuture.com Basketball forum.

People think the Nets are the Royols and claim the Knicks are a better team in every way.

[Preludepunk27]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Just like your ignorance toward Brook?

And on top of that, I believe I am the ONLY one of this board that states "maybe I'm too close to the situation" in the majority of my posts about Lebron, however, I think my points are valid and are kicked under the rug by the media. I know my thoughts sound outlandish, but at least the logic isn't putrid like on the Knicks board.

Also, the reason why most of this board despises you is that you call people out and offer no discussion or reasoning back to support your ignorance either. At least I'm providing evidence for discussion of my views.

[Preludepunk27]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Wrong, it's actually optimism. But hey I'm part of that bandwagon.

I appreciate you having my back. Even if people don't agree with everything I said, I feel the logic isn't completely unrealistic in my eyes.

[Revolutionistt]

It looks like I misunderstood what Prelude was talking about when he said "in the locker room it is Derricks team", and then a misunderstanding with my mention to pregame rituals and getting the team amped up. My point is this, Derrick Rose is a great player, but not great enough to not move to the side a bit and let LBJ run things.

[Revolutionistt]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Riiiiiiight, so every Suns fan think hes going to Cleveland or Phoenix?? Or every Jazz fan thinks he has a shot to go to Utah??? Fact of the matter is this, NJ had a meeting with the guy hence NJ is a possibility. NJ has the cap space to sign him hence NJ is a possibility. Although I dont feel its ONLY CLE or NJ, your statement makes no sense.

[mack69]

At this point I don't have a clue, but whatever decision he makes will have consequences attached to it. I don't think he needs Bosh as much as he thinks he needs him. Varejao actually is a very good complement to his game.

New Jersey has never been attarction in this country so I'm not surprise what the media is selling about his decision. However, living in OH he has been hit with a lot of pressure to stay which they telling its his loyalty but I think its the pressure locally and its business impact that is causing turbulence here.

[demens]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Just like your ignorance toward Brook?

And on top of that, I believe I am the ONLY one of this board that states "maybe I'm too close to the situation" in the majority of my posts about Lebron, however, I think my points are valid and are kicked under the rug by the media. I know my thoughts sound outlandish, but at least the logic isn't putrid like on the Knicks board.

Also, the reason why most of this board despises you is that you call people out and offer no discussion or reasoning back to support your ignorance either. At least I'm providing evidence for discussion of my views.

Yeah, because you just came up with some new argument, point or logic that hasn't been discussed to death in the past month. Yes, this totally brand new discussions that wasn't repeated a million times already.

And what does Brook have to do with anything. In fact, there wasn't all that much Brook talk during this free agency was there, he might not be that much of a draw for Lebron as some of you "too close to the situation" might think.

You asked for it yourself, so dont get your panties in a bunch and get all offended about it.

Call me ignorant, but the only 2 teams in this race are the Cavs and Nets.

[demens]

Riiiiiiight, so every Suns fan think hes going to Cleveland or Phoenix?? Or every Jazz fan thinks he has a shot to go to Utah??? Fact of the matter is this, NJ had a meeting with the guy hence NJ is a possibility. NJ has the cap space to sign him hence NJ is a possibility. Although I dont feel its ONLY CLE or NJ, your statement makes no sense.

Riiiighhttt....because THATS what i was talking about. Why dont you visit the Knicks, Bulls and Heat board and ask them what are the top 2 teams still in the Lebron hunt.

[treiz]

You're ignorant.

Only 2 teams in the Lebron race are the Cavs and whatever team you're a fan of, ask anyone.

Wrong, it's actually optimism. But hey I'm part of that bandwagon.

I appreciate you having my back. Even if people don't agree with everything I said, I feel the logic isn't completely unrealistic in my eyes.

It's not that unrealistic, in fact it's a "debatable comment". you can argue both sides of the coin, and this is pretty much is like the lottery but to a greater extent. Due to the fact that Lebron is a proven superstar where as most rookies are unproven.

[treiz]

It looks like I misunderstood what Prelude was talking about when he said "in the locker room it is Derricks team", and then a misunderstanding with my mention to pregame rituals and getting the team amped up. My point is this, Derrick Rose is a great player, but not great enough to not move to the side a bit and let LBJ run things.

When you have the chance to have a player like Lebron, any player in their right mind would happily play second fiddle to him. Look at Bosh, Vince Carter when he first came. When you have a chance at a ring, you have to find what's best for the team.

[Jersey Generals]

I actually think Demens comment was pretty funny and apt to the situation. Go to every board with cap space, they all think their team is the one he's going to.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm sorry, but I am owning over there right now.