Danny's Early offseason everything thread (updated)

[Bulltalk]

What did we get in Safety Kam Chancellor? Hopefully alot of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6PC-drS9IA

He does look kind of a freak. Let's see what happens.

[Danny Darko]

Did you guys see this? Kinda looks like a 3-4 with no NT and a bigger DE. Hmmm-

Red Bryant: New beef for Seahawks' defensive end spot

In an effort to beef up their defensive end position, the Seahawks made a move this weekend. A very big move, in terms of body type.

After adding numerous smaller speed rushers to help quench coach Pete Carroll's desire for putting more pressure on opposing quarterbacks, the Seahawks are looking to balance the beef by moving third-year pro Red Bryant to defensive end in some situations.
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Red Bryant, shown here at last year's training camp, is being tried now at defensive end in the Seahawks' new scheme. (Getty Images/Otto Greule Jr.)

The experiment is the idea of defensive line coach Dan Quinn, based on the team's need to defend the run better at the point of attack while also employing speed off the edge with linebacker Aaron Curry or one of the smaller rush ends.

Bryant, at 6-foot-4, 318 pounds, certainly brings a different dimension to the outside of the line. He looked good at the end position in Seattle's final two minicamp practices Saturday and Sunday, though obviously there's a big difference between padless workouts and full-tilt NFL game action.

[Danny Darko]

Forsett was named "most elusive running back" statistically in this article case study:

ProFootballFocus.com

In PFF's ongoing quest to present the world with unique, insightful statistics, Sam Monson presents the Elusive Rating. The goal of this stat is to filter out the performance of back's blockers and solely focus on a runner's contribution...In PFF's ongoing quest to present the world with unique, insightful statistics, Sam Monson presents the Elusive Rating. The goal of this stat is to filter out the performance of back's blockers and solely focus on a runner's contribution...

The magic formula:
(MTrush+MTrec)/(Rec+Att)*(YCo/Att*100)

Who ranks as the most elusive back in football over the 2009 season? The toughest back to bring down in 2009 by our study was Forsett, leading the way with an Elusive Rating of 70.19. Forsett's rating puts him clear of Stewart, who came in second with an Elusive Rating of 67.66, and a full 13+ points clear of third place. Forsett was noticeably shifty and tough as a runner and receiver, and it will be interesting to see where he fits in 2010, with Seattle having added LenDale White and Leon Washington in the offseason.

The article has all the specific stats if you wanna take a look at how they determined elusiveness exactly.

I like J.F. I hope he has a place on the team, though I hope one of the new guys has a studly year as the primary back.

[Ex-hippie]

though I hope one of the new guys has a studly year as the primary back.

Maybe Leon Washington, if he completely recovers, though he's never really been a primary back before. Otherwise I think Forsett is the top RB. White and Gaither should battle it out for a third-string spot, and I'd give a slight edge to White for his change-of-pace potential.

[Ex-hippie]

So I poked around this Pro Football Focus website that Danny pointed out to us and also stumbled upon this little nugget, ranking the top pass protecting teams in the league:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/article ... rc=&id=153

No. 7 -- Seattle Seahawks The surprise package in the top 10 is the Seahawks, which makes Matt Hasselbeck's regular meltdowns all the more unforgivable. The offensive line may have lacked a bit opening holes for the backs but as pass protectors they did a very creditable job, especially when you factor in they had less help than any other team in the league. The Seahawks averaged 5.36 blockers per play, with both backs and TEs regularly out in patterns instead of helping out the line. All the backs were serviceable when they stayed in, but we're still trying to understand the hype surrounding John Carlson. Pass protection, it seems, is only one of many things at which he doesn't excel.

[Danny Darko]

To me that stat looks like we did have alot of blockers blocking, but does it matter if they suck? I'm not sure that is on Hass, and I do think he was terrible because of not the hits he took in the pocket but the Willis hit on his scramble that broke high ribs.

[Danny Darko]

Leroy Hill may be in jail for a year? Shoot man, we get nothing in return other than maybe not paying him, but that sucks.

So here's something brighter:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvTliO4jxrk&playnext_from=TL&videos=vk1KrGvzaU8&feature=grec[/youtube]

[Sweezo]

I like the J.P. Losman signing. For a 3rd QB, I think he has a higher upside than Teel.

Leroy Hill may be in jail for a year? Shoot man, we get nothing in return other than maybe not paying him, but that sucks.

He may get violated on his probation but imposing a full year for the violation would be way beyond the pale. And this is coming from someone who handles probation violations regularly.

[Danny Darko]

I like the JP signing too. Teal isn't mobile enough for this offense it sounds like, and no one seems to have any respect for his game. I liked his deep touch, but JP certainly has paid some dues and won't be a deer in headlights out there.

I hope that Hill wins his case, doesn't have his probation revoked, and we can find something of worth for him. I'd rather play heater at this point.

What do you do Sweez?

[Ex-hippie]

I like the J.P. Losman signing. For a 3rd QB, I think he has a higher upside than Teel.

Leroy Hill may be in jail for a year? Shoot man, we get nothing in return other than maybe not paying him, but that sucks.

He may get violated on his probation but imposing a full year for the violation would be way beyond the pale. And this is coming from someone who handles probation violations regularly.

Oh, he might get violated all right.

[Danny Darko]

McCoy signed and now Chancellor-

Safety Kam Chancellor, the Seahawks' fifth-round pick out of Virginia Tech, became the team's second rookie draft choice to sign a contract, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Wednesday.
Schefter says Chancellor agreed to a four-year, $2.83 million deal. The Seahawks have not yet confirmed the signing.

Seattle signed sixth-round pick Anthony McCoy, a tight end out of USC, earlier in the week.

Chancellor, 6-foot-2, 232 pounds, is expected to back up veteran Jordan Babineaux at the strong safety position. Rookie Earl Thomas, a first-round draft pick out of Texas, will likely start at the free safety position.

Chancellor is more of a physical run stopper who will be called on to play in the box, which should make him an interesting candidate to work in tandem with Thomas -- an athletic center-field type defensive back who specializes in pass coverage -- once they both gain experience.
But initially, Chancellor is likely more of a backup candidate and special teams contributor.

I'm stoked that we are going to have Kam to potentially develop into a steady heavy hitter.

[Danny Darko]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/210076.asp

Oh man. at least it wasn't any big deal-

Seahawks' Tate caught in middle of maple bar heist

What started as an unfortunate early-morning incident with police for Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate somehow turned into a remarkable marketing opportunity for Top Pot Doughnuts after the rookie was caught with stolen maple bars on Saturday in Bellevue.


Tate wasn't arrested or cited, instead receiving only a trespass warning, after he says a friend went in and took some doughnuts after the store -- which is located in the building where he's living -- had closed at 3 a.m.

The story, originally reported by TMZ, caused considerable embarrassment but no legal problem for the team's second-round draft pick from Notre Dame.

"We went to Top Pot for freshly baked maple bars," Tate said after the Seahawks' offseason practice session Tuesday. "A buddy made the mistake of going in and grabbing a couple. We ate them. Nothing much to the story other than that.

"I'm very apologetic to it. This is the wrong kind of media I want to bring to this organization. I apologize to the team, the coaches and even Top Pot. As of now, I think that's the end of it."

Tate, 21, confirmed that he received only a warning and wasn't arrested.

"They just said, 'Don't do it again,' which I won't," Tate said.

[Sweezo]

The story confuses me...it's either a hilarious misunderstanding, or an NFL player getting away with a burglary. Ah well...hopefully it's a lesson learned.

[Ex-hippie]

My theory is that the whole maple bar incident is actually a well-crafted viral marketing campaign for Top Pot. Tate, Carroll and Hasselbeck are all in on it. Or at least that's how it sounds from this version of the story.

[Danny Darko]

Hmmmm opening inerested in grabbing Marshawn Lynch rears its head again:

A defensive assistant coach for an NFC West team told me earlier this offseason he hoped the Seattle Seahawks weren't serious about acquiring Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch.

If the Seahawks are serious -- and I see no reason for them to stand pat at the position -- getting Lynch at a discount price would make sense.

The Scouts Inc. analysis Insider on Lynch heading into last season said he had "great inline vision and run skills with good lateral quickness and agility" to go with breakaway speed. The 2009 season probably changed opinions on Lynch, but he only recently turned 24 years old. He hasn't suffered career-threatening injuries. If those attributes shined through two seasons ago, why can't they shine through at some point in the future, particularly under circumstances that might qualify as a fresh start?

Lynch isn't a perfect player by any means. The Buffalo Bills wouldn't have benched him last season and they probably wouldn't have drafted C.J. Spiller more recently if Lynch were a sure-fire bet. That's where the "discount price" element comes into play. The lower the price, the less risk and the greater potential for net gain.

Let's put it this way: If Lynch were available in a three-man NFL draft featuring current Seattle running backs Justin Forsett and Julius Jones, which player would most teams draft first? I'd make Lynch the favorite. Also, would adding Lynch to the mix improve the Seahawks' outlook at the position? Seems like it would.
Not much else to consider if the price is right.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/19198/marshawn-lynch-makes-sense-if-price-right

[TTown]

What would you give up for Vincent Jackson, taking into account his 3 game suspension?

I think Housh would benefit by Jackson's presence, and I think Butler/Tate would be more than capable as the 3rd WR. We could probably cut Branch, too, which is icing on the cake.

Then again, we'll probably suck, so giving anything up for Jackson might not even be worth it.

[Danny Darko]

not convinced I want him for the reported price (2 2nds). I like his size and his skill, but they'd have to maybe consider 1 2nd or Hill or a WR + a 4th

[Sweezo]

not convinced I want him for the reported price (2 2nds). I like his size and his skill, but they'd have to maybe consider 1 2nd or Hill or a WR + a 4th

I like Jackson but I think the cost will be too high; Given what the front office did with high picks this year, I have confidence in their ability to build through the draft. While I would like to add a top flight WR, with Housh/Tate/Butler [and Williams as a dark horse] I think we have a decent core.

[Danny Darko]

God am I glad we ditched Mora. Now he calls Pete a cheater... What a mistake to hire him in the first place:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bThbldPK43Y&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[Danny Darko]

No Way Hill got off that easy? One game? Does this make him someone we need or just valuable enough to trade?

Seattle Seahawks linebacker Leroy Hill will miss the season opener after being suspended by the NFL on Friday for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

Hill will miss the Seahawks season opener against San Francisco on Sept. 12. His suspension without pay also includes forfeiting an additional game check.

Hill can participate in all preseason practices and games. His suspension begins on Sept. 4 and will be eligible to return Sept. 13 following the Seahawks' opener against San Francisco.

http://www.seattlepi.com/football/2020ap_fbn_seahawks_hill.html