*Official Free Agency News/Rumors Thread* PT4

caneaddict · Post #801 » by **caneaddict** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:36 pm

Zo coming back?

ifrosty13 · Post #802 » by **ifrosty13** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:43 pm

This is not natural miami heat working. Too many rumors being thrown around about the Heat and I know that anything pat riley does usually comes as a suprise.

HeatSince88 · Post #803 » by **HeatSince88** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:44 pm

Marc Stein:

Four-way trade talk: Beasley told WED by Heat to expect trade and Bobcats highly motivated to get him: (http://es.pn/bPnrvh)

http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ/status/18058110814

Post #804 » by **Heat11114** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:45 pm

ifrosty13 wrote:This is not natural miami heat working. Too many rumors being thrown around about the Heat and I know that anything pat riley does usually comes as a suprise.

This isn't a trade between two teams though, the sources are seemingly coming from Lebron's camp, we can't control or leak that.

HEATVols865 · Post #805 » by **HEATVols865** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:45 pm

To those wanting Z as our C, nba.com's Free Agent Tracker has him as a Restricted FA; if if if we get LBJ, Cle will not let us take him.

I'd get Pryzbilla. DJ Mbenga, Francisco Elson. Joel as a backup.

Chris Wilcox would be good too!

HeatSince88 · Post #806 » by **HeatSince88** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:47 pm

Brazilian wrote:To those wanting Z as our C, nba.com's Free Agent Tracker has him as a Restricted FA; if if if we get LBJ, Cle will not let us take him.

I'd get Pryzbilla. DJ Mbenga, Francisco Elson. Joel as a backup.

Chris Wilcox would be good too!

There's no way Big Z is restricted. Must be a typo.

CB4MiamiHeat · Post #807 » by **CB4MiamiHeat** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:50 pm

Vet PG? / Chalmers / Beverley
Wade / Mike Miller
Lebron / Desean Buler
Bosh / ? / Varnado
? / Pittman / Joel Anthony

Mike Miller can play the 1, 2, or 3.

im loving it ..

Post #808 » by **heat4life** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:51 pm

Mike Miller could start or be or 6th guy. It won't matter as long as we sign Radja Bell for the minimum. He can shoot and play defense.

Wade - Chalmers - Arroyo
Miller - Bell - Beverly
LeBron - Bell - Butler
Bosh - Rasheed Wallace? - Vernado
Yo Momma - Pittman - Magloire

Shaq_Diesel · Post #809 » by **Shaq_Diesel** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:54 pm

Ahhhhhhhhh back from work.

5 hours til the celebration

ClintEastwood · Post #810 » by **ClintEastwood** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:57 pm

happy happy joy joy!

BigDaddyPR · Post #811 » by **BigDaddyPR** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:07 pm

Brazilian wrote:To those wanting Z as our C, nba.com's Free Agent Tracker has him as a Restricted FA; if if if we get LBJ, Cle will not let us take him.

I'd get Pryzbilla. DJ Mbenga, Francisco Elson. Joel as a backup.

Chris Wilcox would be good too!

I would love Pryz over Wilcox, i prefer his toughness, reb and shot blocking. We dont need more scoring.

HeatSince88 · Post #812 » by **HeatSince88** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:10 pm

Is Pryz a FA?

I didn't think he opted out ...

buckybadgerfan · Post #813 » by **buckybadgerfan** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:14 pm

Wade, Bosh and LeBron aka Miami's Dream Team has so much potential.
Reminiscent of the Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton squad everyone expected to win 70+ games and multiple champion rings. So much hype but so much expectations that may never come to fruition.

Vertical Limit · Post #814 » by **Vertical Limit** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:14 pm

Is there a reason why I can't log in on RealGM with Firefox? Glitch started today.

Anyways, I hope we stay in contact with the Bobcats. If we don't get Lebron, I would like a Beasley + TPE for Gerald Wallace swap.

Post #815 » by **LEIF** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:16 pm

buckybadgerfan wrote:Wade, Bosh and LeBron aka Miami's Dream Team has so much potential.
Reminiscent of the Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton squad everyone expected to win 70+ games and multiple champion rings. So much hype but so much expectations that may never come to fruition.

except that our locker room wont be divided like Kobe and Shaq had that Laker team in turmoil.

and we have Pat Riley.

Wade2k6 · Post #816 » by **Wade2k6** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:18 pm

LEIF wrote:
buckybadgerfan wrote:Wade, Bosh and LeBron aka Miami's Dream Team has so much potential.
Reminiscent of the Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton squad everyone expected to win 70+ games and multiple champion rings. So much hype but so much expectations that may never come to fruition.

except that our locker room wont be divided like Kobe and Shaq had that Laker team in turmoil.

and we have Pat Riley.

And all of the players are in their prime, not a shell of their former self (at least Malone and GP).

buckybadgerfan · Post #817 » by **buckybadgerfan** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:21 pm

So far not looking good when LeBron is doing his own reality show while Wade and Bosh hanging out like buddies with or without Bron.
Hope the chemistry meshes cause it'd be fun to watch all that speed, skill and athleticism.

eaglebball · Post #818 » by **eaglebball** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:21 pm

buckybadgerfan wrote:Wade, Bosh and LeBron aka Miami's Dream Team has so much potential.
Reminiscent of the Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton squad everyone expected to win 70+ games and multiple champion rings. So much hype but so much expectations that may never come to fruition.

Except three of those four had already peaked as players (Shaq, Malone, Payton). Then again, two of those three went off to Miami, and two years later won it all. I guess there's a point of saturation that needs to be balanced out. And the fit in L.A. wasn't the greatest. You had two guys that needed the ball in their hands in Kobe and Shaq, and on top of that added two more who need the ball in their hands in Malone and Payton.

I actually think that Wade, Bosh, and Lebron compliment each other pretty well, and all are in or just entering their primes. Those are two big differences.

Especially if Lebron embraces a Magic Johnson point-forward type of role, I can envision this trio doing big things. Lebron running the offense, Wade running around screens and working the baseline off the ball all day, and Bosh being your primary inside scorer. Add a big body to rebound/block shots and a shooter (Mike Miller?), and they can be lethal.

WadeInTheWater · Post #819 » by **WadeInTheWater** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:21 pm

Guys LeBron, Wade and Bosh are very good friends. They all coincidently came out the same draft class and that for me is enough to say it will work.

TheAnkh · Post #820 » by **TheAnkh** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:22 pm

mopper8 wrote:
TheAnkh wrote:So now that the cap is out, has anyone done any number crunching for the different possible scenarios?

Yep, can't find the post right now but I can go through it with you based on my memory...

How much cap space would we have if we signed the trio to the full max without moving Beasley?

Not quite possible. If we sign Bosh & Wade and don't move Beasley, we'll have $13.75 million left over, just under $3 million short of the max. So if we were to keep Beasley, we'd basically have to sign the other 3 to contracts slightly below max (about ~900K less) and go right up to the salary cap.

How much cap space would we have if we signed the trio to the full max and moved Beasley?

With Wade, Bosh, and no Beasley we'd have ~$18.65 in space, so adding another max gives us ~$2 million left over to spend

How much cap space would we have if the trio took a 1 mil or less pay cut (thats the most I can see them giving up)?

As per above, with 1 million pay cuts, we could keep Beasley and have zero cap space, or dump Beasley have have ~$5 million in cap space

How much would we have if LeBron decided to go elsewhere and we gave Wade and Bosh the max (w/ Beasley and w/o)?

Again, as detailed above, Wade + Bosh + Beasley gives us $13.75 mil, Wade + Bosh gives us ~$18.65 mil

Thank you!