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Post#21 » by PocketRockets » Fri Jul 9, 2010 2:03 am

No, don't move the picks!! We need to try to rebuild through the draft. We can't win against Wade/LBJ/Bosh and stern. We need to get the next "MJ" so we punch our automatic rigged ticket to the finals!!
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Post#22 » by Joseph17 » Fri Jul 9, 2010 2:07 am

This is making me root for the Rockets even more now. They are 1 player away from getting to the Heat's level. Unlike the Heat, the Rockets have quality players at every position and a much better bench.
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Post#23 » by zapatasblood » Fri Jul 9, 2010 2:43 am

I am wondering how many Cavs fan are getting new accounts because in some way Lebron James was incorporated in their user name
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Post#24 » by aznkillabeezZz » Fri Jul 9, 2010 3:17 am

wow those ny picks look alot better now ..
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Post#25 » by M4P » Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:38 am

PocketRockets wrote:No, don't move the picks!! We need to try to rebuild through the draft. We can't win against Wade/LBJ/Bosh and stern. We need to get the next "MJ" so we punch our automatic rigged ticket to the finals!!

That's going to take years. By the time our next Jordan blooms our roster will look completely different.
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Post#26 » by moofs » Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:30 pm

Personally, I'm interested in seeing just James and Wade on the same team.
A. As has been pointed out before, Bosh is not a superstar.
B. James is better than Wade by FAR, but will probably take a backseat, which may to diminish what he can do.
C. Jordan and Pippen were slightly better, but neither of them was a freight train. This is going to be a sight.
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Post#27 » by zapatasblood » Fri Jul 9, 2010 8:16 pm

moofs wrote:Personally, I'm interested in seeing just James and Wade on the same team.
A. As has been pointed out before, Bosh is not a superstar.
B. James is better than Wade by FAR, but will probably take a backseat, which may to diminish what he can do.
C. Jordan and Pippen were slightly better, but neither of them was a freight train. This is going to be a sight.


I don't think it will good for both Wade and James to be on the same team. Both play the same style and both need to dominate the ball to score and both need to setup the offense. Neither has a good solid jumpshot and either can consistently hit the three point shot. Who is going to run the offense and who is going to be that guy to spread the floor with their jumpshot.
A. Bosh is not a superstar but he is damn good
B. Jame is better then Wade but James needs Wade to take the big shot in the big game. I personally do not think James is a clutch player
C. Jordan was a freight. I only think they will win 2 at best.
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Post#28 » by Meatcookie » Fri Jul 9, 2010 8:17 pm

I watched it. I have NO problem with him leaving.

Loyal? There is no loyalty in sports. Players get traded away all the time when they don't want to leave. Boo hoo. It is NOT a family. They are not your best friends. They play sports, competitively. They want to WIN first and foremost, that is where they get their drive from. All great players no matter what the sport ALL WANT TO WIN. The only control you have is where you want to play. If you play for a **** little city, with **** little management that makes **** little decisions, then you would want to go somewhere nice, with intelligent people to work for who make exciting things happen.

The Cavs couldn't give any of that. It's not the best city from his choices. It didn't have the best management, and they didn't make the best happen. James made it happen as much as he could.

The players know that they could be traded at anytime by the owners/management. The players can only have that kind of power at the end of their contracts, once every 2 to 5 or 6 years. Why would you feel sorry or hate a player for leaving?
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Post#29 » by moofs » Fri Jul 9, 2010 8:56 pm

zapatasblood wrote:
moofs wrote:Personally, I'm interested in seeing just James and Wade on the same team.
A. As has been pointed out before, Bosh is not a superstar.
B. James is better than Wade by FAR, but will probably take a backseat, which may to diminish what he can do.
C. Jordan and Pippen were slightly better, but neither of them was a freight train. This is going to be a sight.


I don't think it will good for both Wade and James to be on the same team. Both play the same style and both need to dominate the ball to score and both need to setup the offense. Neither has a good solid jumpshot and either can consistently hit the three point shot. Who is going to run the offense and who is going to be that guy to spread the floor with their jumpshot.


I don't think James needs to dominate the ball to provide a lot of value, it just won't be scoring. I also don't think it will be good for them either, but I'm still very interested to see it.

zapatasblood wrote:A. Bosh is not a superstar but he is damn good


My position is that he's about 10-25% better than Scola. But I'm wrong a lot.

zapatasblood wrote:B. Jame is better then Wade but James needs Wade to take the big shot in the big game. I personally do not think James is a clutch player


This is true.

zapatasblood wrote:C. Jordan was a freight. I only think they will win 2 at best.


No way man, Jordan was a straight-up triple-zen take-no-prisoners ninja.

Pippen was a two-armed giraffe with a Sylvester Stallone imitation complex.
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Post#30 » by Ribalding » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:20 am

zapatasblood wrote:2011 first round draft pick from New York
Houston has the right to swap their own 2011 1st round pick with New York's own 1st round pick so long as New York's 2011 1st round pick is not the 1st overall selection in the 2011 NBA Draft. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]


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New York's own 2012 1st round pick to Houston (top 5 protected in 2012, top 5 protected in 2013, top 5 protected in 2014, and top 5 protected in the 2015 Draft). If Houston does not receive a 1st round pick from New York by the 2015 Draft, then New York will convey their own 2015 2nd round pick and 2016 2nd round pick to Houston. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]

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Thanks, Odd New Guy. I'd forgotten about the '12 deferral options.
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Post#31 » by jove9 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:24 pm

jts10 wrote:I watched it. I have NO problem with him leaving.

Loyal? There is no loyalty in sports. Players get traded away all the time when they don't want to leave. Boo hoo. It is NOT a family. They are not your best friends. They play sports, competitively. They want to WIN first and foremost, that is where they get their drive from. All great players no matter what the sport ALL WANT TO WIN. The only control you have is where you want to play. If you play for a **** little city, with **** little management that makes **** little decisions, then you would want to go somewhere nice, with intelligent people to work for who make exciting things happen.

The Cavs couldn't give any of that. It's not the best city from his choices. It didn't have the best management, and they didn't make the best happen. James made it happen as much as he could.

The players know that they could be traded at anytime by the owners/management. The players can only have that kind of power at the end of their contracts, once every 2 to 5 or 6 years. Why would you feel sorry or hate a player for leaving?


Hmmm. Look at that. I just said pretty much the same thing in another thread. Hooray?
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Post#32 » by Guy986 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:15 pm

Honestly i don't really have a problem with the superfriends in south beach. They took less money in their prime to try to win. I can respect that. I only have a problem with the king being a douche by announcing his decision on a 1 hour show on espn.
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Post#33 » by Fobbie » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:42 pm

Guy986 wrote:Honestly i don't really have a problem with the superfriends in south beach. They took less money in their prime to try to win. I can respect that. I only have a problem with the king being a douche by announcing his decision on a 1 hour show on espn.


Yea I don't have a problem with him being a pussy and taking the easy route to win a ring, it how he handle it. Did he reallly have to go infront of million of viewers and to only say I aint coming back to the Cavs?

Also I wouldn't appoint these guy champ yet either. I still like the Magic/Cs more, and I still think the Lakers are better than them.
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Post#34 » by College Boy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:19 pm

He didn't say I ain't goin back to the Cavs. He said he's goin to Miami. Why is everybody victimizing Cleveland?
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