Fantasy Trade Thread

youngcrev · Post #501 » by **youngcrev** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 3:49 am

What about targeting Anderson Varejao now? I hate the dude.. but he's certainly a good defensive big man that hustles and plays relatively mistake free basketball. Throw him out there with Holiday/Turner/Iguodala/Brand and you'd have a very good defensive ball club. He's still relatively young at 27, and doesn't have too many NBA minutes on him to wear him down.

51X3RF4N · Post #502 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 3:50 am

Offseason plan...

Brand
Turner
Thad

For

Al Jefferson
Brewer
Hollins

Trade 2

Kapono
Green
Speights

For

Ginobili

New lineup:

Jrue/Lou
Ginobili/Meeks
Iggy/Brewer
Al Jefferson/Nocioni/Smith
Hawes/Hollins

Gino is the perfect fit between Jrue and Iggy. Al Jeff gives us a solid PF who is an All Star. The combination of our 1-4 starters is competitive in the East. We still have decent depth too.

That is my plan. Balls to the wall all or nothing compete or throw it all out the window.

bdownbear · Post #503 » by **bdownbear** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 3:51 am

His contract scares me though.

youngcrev · Post #504 » by **youngcrev** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:00 am

Wow, you turned on Turner quick... (that's a terrible deal)

And no way does San Antonio make that deal. They just extended Ginobli, they aren't going to move him... especially for that package.

thaddeusyoungin · Post #505 » by **thaddeusyoungin** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:05 am

Would Memphis do Turner and Hawes for Mayo and Gasol?

51X3RF4N · Post #506 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:06 am

not so much turning on turner, just want to do everything possible to compete for a title NOW and not in 5 years.

DirtyDez · Post #507 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:17 am

Suns just got 16 mil TPE. Anyone good ya wanna dump...?

UptownPhilly · Post #508 » by **UptownPhilly** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 4:31 am

51X3RF4N wrote:not so much turning on turner, just want to do everything possible to compete for a title NOW and not in 5 years.

Why trade Turner at all? We don't stand a chance against the Lakers or Miami.

Now is the time to build for the future. Now more than ever, we need another lottery pick.

Jrue/Turner + another top 5 pick + 2012/2013 cap space.

If Iguodala/Young/Speights/Williams whoever has to go, move them.

LA/BOS/MIA & maybe ORL have the league locked down for the next 3-4 years.

youngcrev · Post #509 » by **youngcrev** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:03 am

DirtyDez wrote:Suns just got 16 mil TPE. Anyone good ya wanna dump...?

We've got this former All-NBA 2nd team PF that's available... plus he makes just under 16M, it's perfect.

Post #510 » by **The Guilty Party** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:14 am

Utah apparently is getting a massive TPE from the Boozer deal. Brand would seem to fit in with Jerry Sloan, no? :-)

Arsenal · Post #511 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:58 am

UptownPhilly wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:not so much turning on turner, just want to do everything possible to compete for a title NOW and not in 5 years.

Why trade Turner at all? We don't stand a chance against the Lakers or Miami.

Now is the time to build for the future. Now more than ever, we need another lottery pick.

Jrue/Turner + another top 5 pick + 2012/2013 cap space.

If Iguodala/Young/Speights/Williams whoever has to go, move them.

LA/BOS/MIA & maybe ORL have the league locked down for the next 3-4 years.

Agreed. We have no shot the next 3+ years, so now is the time for a full rebuild instead of more half measures. We should target the offseason when Dwight Howard becomes a free agent, to try to lure him to join our (hopefully) star backcourt of Holiday and Turner.

76ersxMVP · Post #512 » by **76ersxMVP** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:08 am

Arsenal wrote:
UptownPhilly wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:not so much turning on turner, just want to do everything possible to compete for a title NOW and not in 5 years.

Why trade Turner at all? We don't stand a chance against the Lakers or Miami.

Now is the time to build for the future. Now more than ever, we need another lottery pick.

Jrue/Turner + another top 5 pick + 2012/2013 cap space.

If Iguodala/Young/Speights/Williams whoever has to go, move them.

LA/BOS/MIA & maybe ORL have the league locked down for the next 3-4 years.

Agreed. We have no shot the next 3+ years, so now is the time for a full rebuild instead of more half measures. We should target the offseason when Dwight Howard becomes a free agent, to try to lure him to join our (hopefully) star backcourt of Holiday and Turner.

Yea, but to lure Superman. We need to win games! We need to make playoff appearances every year and advance to the second round etc before that summer arrives. Can we do it? Its in Evan Turner and Holiday's hands. I wish preseason would get here so we can know if Evan Turner is who we thought he can be..

Arsenal · Post #513 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:32 am

If Holiday and Turner are as good as everyone thinks, they should be good enough to get us into the playoffs before the "Summer of Dwight."

radrmd216 · Post #514 » by **radrmd216** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:02 am

This team definitely needs to trade Iggy now for a young player and get a lottery pick next draft. I've been saying that for awhile, but I Ed is a horrible GM and Collins won't let that happen. I think only the young coaches and GM's realize how to win in the NBA.

51X3RF4N · Post #515 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:19 am

Well if we trade Iggy for expirings, we still have Brand's contract. And there is no guarantee that the squad of Jrue, Turner, Thad won't somehow make the playoffs and we'd be stuck without a lottery pick.

I could see trading Iggy to a team that will definitely be in the lottery, but then again, adding Iggy to any team might put that team in the playoffs.

Lottery is no guarantee either way, and you don't always get lucky and move up to #2.

It is a very risky plan. Especially if Turner is a bust and whatever picks we'd get in 2011 are busts.

Jrue/Turner is definitely the future of the Sixers at the PG/SG spots. I'd like to think Iggy is the future at the SF spot. When you think about 3-4 years from now, Iggy will be in his final years of his prime, around 30 years old. He'll be making a final push ala Ron Artest to win a championship. He will be a lockdown defender and if Turner is the guy we think he could be, he will be the go-to scorer at age 25-26 in his prime. Jrue will be a top 5 PG at age 24. We need a PF and a Center to fit that lineup and win big games. So they will likely be 22-26 years old right now.

DirtyDez · Post #516 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 9:21 am

youngcrev wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Suns just got 16 mil TPE. Anyone good ya wanna dump...?

We've got this former All-NBA 2nd team PF that's available... plus he makes just under 16M, it's perfect.

J-Rich/TPE for Iggy/Brand... Suns could trade Brand as an expiring in 2 years when Nash retires. Sixers get instant relief. Kerr was obsessed with Iggy but he's gone so who knows...

51X3RF4N · Post #517 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 10:55 am

76ciology · Post #518 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 11:00 am

I'm also sold.

Jrue, Turner, Thad, lotto player next year, big man FA in 2011/2012. That might be what it takes to pull an upset against the three headed beast.

underpressure · Post #519 » by **underpressure** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 11:03 am

not in a million years.

iguodala will be only traded for a superstar type of player. there is absolutely no way that we trade Iguodala for a lesser player. at some point we have to think about winning and not blowing up the whole team because it is noe en vogue.

in the future we may be the only team able to defend wade and james. a perimeter defense around jrue, turner and iguodala makes this happen. of course we are still short of an able big, but that is quite farfetched with brand in the books.

underpressure · Post #520 » by **underpressure** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 11:08 am

a lottery place makes only sense if we land in the top 3 again. given thst the next draft is supposes to be pretty weak, a lotto pick would not necessarily help us.

so either we continue intentionaly sucking with an outcome that is bound to lotto balls, or we build on our solid pieces with having the window open to sign players in free agency or via trades. the latter was/is the way to go for most elite teams.