Lebron Thread [Part 3]

[Dupp]

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your sig... where is knicks god?... he must eat shoe!

[Dupp]

As some have said. It's not that he left Cleveland. It's HOW. He's slapped that city in the face. How he did it was of upmost disrespect. I feel for Cleveland.

That said, good luck to Miami. I somehow don't think it's going to be as smooth as you think.

exactly..

[Gongxi]

I don't know why people are so emotional about this.

[CRACKSMATIC]

cant believe Lebron actually left cleveland, i didnt believe the Miami rumors i figured they were just leaked by ESPN to generate hype for there TV show

[Suns_fan_2007]

I don't know why people are so emotional about this.

As a Sun fan I'm actually disgusted by the complete lack of respect to his former team.

The fans are the most important in any sport. This was a huge slap in the face to true fans in Cleveland.

Lebron is a douche.

[Stills12]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat??? its not like he is in his 30's and wants to win a ring before he starts loosing aspects of his game, the guy is in his prime. could have easily won a ring for cavs/knicks in the next couple of years and that single championship would have made him a legend. now he's gonna be known as the one with GOAT potential who didn't want to face the challenge of becoming the greatest.

[hazy-davy]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat??? its not like he is in his 30's and wants to win a ring before he starts loosing aspects of his game, the guy is in his prime. could have easily won a ring for cavs/knicks in the next couple of years and that single championship would have made him a legend. now he's gonna be known as the one with GOAT potential who didn't want to face the challenge of becoming the greatest.

+1

[Googjob]

Shocked. Not so much that he left Cleveland, but how he did it. He had a nationally televised show to tell the team that supported him. The fans that bought tickets, jerseys, t-shirts, and more to go screw themselves. No compassion in it, no goodbyes, just a sociopath who cares about nothing but himself. What a pathetic representation of someone who is supposed to be the face of the league. The NBA should be ashamed of themselves.

And as others have noted, the titles mean less. Winning with a bunch of superstars against teams that aren't loaded with superstars is not a challege. We certainly don't put the Dream Team's gold medal on the same pedestal as the Miracle on Ice. So even if he wins 5 titles in Miami, it's not worth one in Cleveland. He may go down as one of the most physically gifted players to ever play the game, but not one of the greatest. The greats build teams, not fabricate them.

So enjoy your titles Lebron. They aren't worth the titles that real superstars like MJ, Magic, Larry, Duncan, Kobe, and more got. You took the easy and cowardly way out, something those guys would never do. And you did it in one of the most classless ways I've ever seen in professional sports.

[NO-KG-AI]

The way LeBron sees it, in 20 years, all that's going to be remembered is how many rings he got, and that will be his legacy.

It was like a bad dream, and I felt horrible for Cleveland, I was hoping and praying the entire time that he was just going to be like "you know what, I'm gonna stick it out" and just tear his shirt off to reveal his number 6 Cavs jersey.

[Googjob]

He's wrong though. The league is too big now, too connected for people to forget. Legacies go beyond how many rings you have on your finger. It's about how they were achieved.

That's what Lebron doesn't get. He's treating this like he's padding stats. That's not how legacies work. He'd have a better legacy winning a title in Cleveland than 5 in Miami.

[Cake55]

So, next season, the Heat plays in Cleveland; Full house with every single person booing for 48 minutes ?
One can only hope..

[TAI8]

I don't know why people are so emotional about this.

As a Sun fan I'm actually disgusted by the complete lack of respect to his former team.

The fans are the most important in any sport. This was a huge slap in the face to true fans in Cleveland.

Lebron is a douche.

I agree. His fans in Cleveland don't deserve this but his GM/management do. They had all the time in the world to put a good team around him, but the best they could come up with was Mo Williams. Epic fail. His team disrespected him by not putting out the best possible product out there as quickly as possible. LeBron doesn't owe management anything. It's the other way around.

[NO-KG-AI]

I think Cleveland did what they could, but they still failed.

It's like if LeBron put out his best effort, but tore up his knee and ruined his career, Cleveland sure wouldn't be giving him a 6 year max. I look at it the same, he appreciates what they did, but doesn't feel like Cleveland can attract the guys to win a title.

I think it's clear he was trying to stay, he was trying to get Bosh to join him there for a reason..

[Bay_Areas_Finest]

lol @ Lebron realizing that he's nothing but a complimentary role player. Have fun riding Dwayne's nuts as you attempt to finally do something in the finals.

You're a joke, "King" James.

[pancakes3]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat???

he's probably thinking... "i want to pop champagne on yachts. i want to play with my friends. i want to win as many rings as possible".

seriously though, how many FRIENDS does lebron really have? a few guys he met in HS and... ??? wade and bosh are the closest thing lebron has to "friends" and can you really blame him for wanting to team up with them? plus they're hypertalented to boot and are odds-on favorites to win it all? it was really a no-brainer as long as the salaries worked out.

[KayDee35]

i seriously don't understand his thought process here, did he not realize 1 ring with cavs or knicks >>> 5 rings with heat???

Your math is wrong.

Seriously though, there is no guarantee he wins with the Cavs or Knicks. And people forget about how you won your rings, they just remember whether you have them or not.

Kobe gets called the best player in the game primarily because of his rings. It hardly ever gets brought up that Hakeem won a ring with a weak squad or that LeBron took a team of bums to the NBA finals.

[crazy_me_87]

Winning a title 'your right as a player. its the right of the franchise, and its the responsibility of the player to bring it.

MJ didn't go team up with Ewing. Kobe didn't go team up with Duncan. Russell didn't go team up with Chamberlain. When it came time they all chose loyalty over glory.

THERE, is everyone happy now.

oh dude i hope you just didn't thought this through like a lot of people here

lets think this through shall we?

MJ
had if a recall correctly Pippin(remember one of the best 50 players,hall of famer) and proven roleplayers that led him to stay

Kobe
played for an proven organisation that has put championchip caliber teams together all 6 to 10 years he was young enough to join another run, and by the way as he was asking to be traded many experts believed kobe would never wear a LA jersey again after that the front office worked their legs of to get help and got gasol(at least 2nd best PF right now... when you account international succsess hes a future Hall of Famer)

Russell
c'mon he was on a team that won 11 rings why he should have left wen he wasn't on a really bad team at least once???


ok now lets do the same for

Lebron
has mo williams(1 time all star dissapears in the playoffs, already 28 years old), Antwan jamison(34 years old...has won nothing yet ) , ilgauskas(35 years old only a roleplayer now) Delonte west(mental unstable but good roleplayer ) JJ Hickson(young energetic PF developing but lets be serious will at best!! be a borderline all star) the rest is mostly made up of aging roleplayers that are serveable but still many well over 30



one should not compare this situations all exept kobe had at least one other all star at their current teams

and the gasol trade was so much luck for the lakers it is hardly possible the cavs would have been able to land a player of gasol caliber in the next 3 years


i agree with most of you that lebron could and maybe should have done it silently via perss conference or such



but now to all that complain and are calling him disrespectfull and such things :

whats the real difference`?

he could have called dan gilbert"hey man i'm sorry i'm leaving cleveland for miami i thank you for all you've done goodbye"

remember he did thank everyone on the tv show... he could have done it louder and more but he did!!

i believe it wouldn't matter dan would still be angry and so be the fans.....

he was not unpolite and behaved like an proffesionall buisnessman maybe thats the problem.


he gave cleveland 7 long years to build a great team.... they should have tradet for young players to grow with bron but they went for old ones in their 30s

[H00PDREAMS]

LeBron James: Love... Not Money.

Growing up I never played much basketball. However it was really popular in my neighborhood and at my school. There have always been a few constants in my life growing up. One of them being that no matter the time of day or the type of weather there was always a bball game going on somewhere around my neighborhood. Each game was the same in my hood. Each game was the same on the playground at school. Before the game started you scan the available players. Usually the person who picks was at the court first or maybe they own the ball. Maybe they are one of the best players on the block. Every game was the same the guy or girl picking first would always pick either the tallest person or their best friend on the court. Almost always it was the buddy that’s picked first. Why was the best friend picked over the tall guy or the fastest guy in town? Because it just made the game more fun. Sure you want to win. But isn’t that much more fun when your friends are winning with you? In high school my bball teams both male and female were all really good friends. They all went to class with another. They all were into the same things dressed alike and even played similar games. When we won the city finals the whole school cheered for the senior varsity boys because we all knew how close they were. Those kids moved from high school, away from the playground and onto college. Something’s get lost in the transition from childhood bball to college bball. The dynamics change and sometimes the love gets lost. Players have to play for a state they care little about and with others they know little about. Sure some get it and move on. Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of playing with nothing invested. Then there are those that realize that it would be in their best interest to ride this thing as long as they can. When they realize “ I have a talent that I can earn a free ride in college from and possibly make a living from”. The lucky few that make it to the NBA are fortunate but once there, the prospects all have different agendas. Some want the fame and the money. While other seek a way to make a decent living without working. Some see it as a dream come true. Some it’s all they know.
Where does LeBron fit in this story? He is the neighborhood baller that always picked you to be on his team whenever you came to the playground because you were a crackup during the week in school. He is the kid you knew in high school that lead your hometown team to city then state. He is that kid that played with his friends no matter where he went. Basketball was an escape and it was fun. Glory was better with your homies around singing and cheering with you. Kids who were on your level and that could relate to. You knew all the time they were with you they were giving their all. That is who LeBron really is. He is the next Jordan or Kobe. I think he thought he wanted to be those things because everyone told him he should be this one thing. Since day one LeBron has told us he is a team player. Not a one man army. We didn’t listen. He told us at the McDonalds game that it was the players around him that enabled him to fill up the stat sheet. LeBron begged for people he could believe in to come to Cleveland. He didn’t want suck ups. I think he despised it when Andy and others refused to play because they weren’t getting the money they thought they deserved. Why did that bother him? Because he hated just knowing that those players were only there because of how much Cleveland could afford to pay them.
The Olympics was the turning point. LeBron’s basketball world came full circle. Playing with Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Boozer and Howard LeBron was reminded of why he plays the sport. Why we played the sport. LeBron was reminded what those days were like in Akron before all the hype. He remembered what it was like playing with someone on his level. He remembered what is like playing for something they all had in common. They were all Americans and they were playing for HOME. The best players, your friends all on the same team playing for home.
We criticize athletes for less. We accuse them of being greedy; we accuse them of being narcissist. However this one time we are proven wrong. Can you imagine when explained to his agent and Maverick Carter that he wasn’t going to join JayZ or make a billion over night in NYC. Because that’s what people have said that’s what he should want. People said that’s what he could be. Maybe he adores Jordan and respects Kobe but let’s face it, he really wants to be Ervin Magic Johnson. That isn’t an easy task to accomplish but all along that’s what his game has showed us. That’s who he wants to be. Remember that pass to Donyell Marshall at the end of the game that was James telling us then but we didn’t listen. He has the money and prestige to do whatever he wants now. Kobe Bryant gave him advice which he repeated in the interview with Jim Gray. ‘Do what makes you happy.’ That’s exactly what he plans to do. He wants to win. He wants to play with players that all have the same goal. He wants a championship by all means necessary. Legacy? Legendary, he never said that… We said that… That’s what we wanted for him.
The game is always been the same for the very few. It never changes. It’s why Kids show up early in the morning staying late in the rain, sleet or snow. No nets, dirt courts, bent rims, dead rims, and sometimes pot holes the kids still playing out there everywhere. It’s why we all play, it’s why we are fans it why we may all learn to like LeBron again someday. Stories will be written about this guy who loved basketball that much. For love not money and it burns us deep inside that’s what he decided and that is a bit of a shame. Love…Not money. Isn’t that refreshing?

[GotItNow]

lol @ Lebron realizing that he's nothing but a complimentary role player. Have fun riding Dwayne's nuts as you attempt to finally do something in the finals.

You're a joke, "King" James.

LOL, LeRolePlayer....I'm loving it.

[GotItNow]

LeBron James: Love... Not Money.

Growing up I never played much basketball. However it was really popular in my neighborhood and at my school. There have always been a few constants in my life growing up. One of them being that no matter the time of day or the type of weather there was always a bball game going on somewhere around my neighborhood. Each game was the same in my hood. Each game was the same on the playground at school. Before the game started you scan the available players. Usually the person who picks was at the court first or maybe they own the ball. Maybe they are one of the best players on the block. Every game was the same the guy or girl picking first would always pick either the tallest person or their best friend on the court. Almost always it was the buddy that’s picked first. Why was the best friend picked over the tall guy or the fastest guy in town? Because it just made the game more fun. Sure you want to win. But isn’t that much more fun when your friends are winning with you? In high school my bball teams both male and female were all really good friends. They all went to class with another. They all were into the same things dressed alike and even played similar games. When we won the city finals the whole school cheered for the senior varsity boys because we all knew how close they were. Those kids moved from high school, away from the playground and onto college. Something’s get lost in the transition from childhood bball to college bball. The dynamics change and sometimes the love gets lost. Players have to play for a state they care little about and with others they know little about. Sure some get it and move on. Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of playing with nothing invested. Then there are those that realize that it would be in their best interest to ride this thing as long as they can. When they realize “ I have a talent that I can earn a free ride in college from and possibly make a living from”. The lucky few that make it to the NBA are fortunate but once there, the prospects all have different agendas. Some want the fame and the money. While other seek a way to make a decent living without working. Some see it as a dream come true. Some it’s all they know.
Where does LeBron fit in this story? He is the neighborhood baller that always picked you to be on his team whenever you came to the playground because you were a crackup during the week in school. He is the kid you knew in high school that lead your hometown team to city then state. He is that kid that played with his friends no matter where he went. Basketball was an escape and it was fun. Glory was better with your homies around singing and cheering with you. Kids who were on your level and that could relate to. You knew all the time they were with you they were giving their all. That is who LeBron really is. He is the next Jordan or Kobe. I think he thought he wanted to be those things because everyone told him he should be this one thing. Since day one LeBron has told us he is a team player. Not a one man army. We didn’t listen. He told us at the McDonalds game that it was the players around him that enabled him to fill up the stat sheet. LeBron begged for people he could believe in to come to Cleveland. He didn’t want suck ups. I think he despised it when Andy and others refused to play because they weren’t getting the money they thought they deserved. Why did that bother him? Because he hated just knowing that those players were only there because of how much Cleveland could afford to pay them.
The Olympics was the turning point. LeBron’s basketball world came full circle. Playing with Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Boozer and Howard LeBron was reminded of why he plays the sport. Why we played the sport. LeBron was reminded what those days were like in Akron before all the hype. He remembered what it was like playing with someone on his level. He remembered what is like playing for something they all had in common. They were all Americans and they were playing for HOME. The best players, your friends all on the same team playing for home.
We criticize athletes for less. We accuse them of being greedy; we accuse them of being narcissist. However this one time we are proven wrong. Can you imagine when explained to his agent and Maverick Carter that he wasn’t going to join JayZ or make a billion over night in NYC. Because that’s what people have said that’s what he should want. People said that’s what he could be. Maybe he adores Jordan and respects Kobe but let’s face it, he really wants to be Ervin Magic Johnson. That isn’t an easy task to accomplish but all along that’s what his game has showed us. That’s who he wants to be. Remember that pass to Donyell Marshall at the end of the game that was James telling us then but we didn’t listen. He has the money and prestige to do whatever he wants now. Kobe Bryant gave him advice which he repeated in the interview with Jim Gray. ‘Do what makes you happy.’ That’s exactly what he plans to do. He wants to win. He wants to play with players that all have the same goal. He wants a championship by all means necessary. Legacy? Legendary, he never said that… We said that… That’s what we wanted for him.
The game is always been the same for the very few. It never changes. It’s why Kids show up early in the morning staying late in the rain, sleet or snow. No nets, dirt courts, bent rims, dead rims, and sometimes pot holes the kids still playing out there everywhere. It’s why we all play, it’s why we are fans it why we may all learn to like LeBron again someday. Stories will be written about this guy who loved basketball that much. For love not money and it burns us deep inside that’s what he decided and that is a bit of a shame. Love…Not money. Isn’t that refreshing?

Wall of text. Nearly blinded. Please hand out reading glasses next time. U owe me one.

*Probably sucked anyway.

Poll Of One Did It Probably Suck?

[ ] NO
[ ] MAYBE
{x} YES

Judgement served, don't do it again please.