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What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp.

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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#21 » by JMac1 » Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:08 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Nash/Dragic
Jrich/Dudley
Hill/Clark
Al/Hakim
Lopez/Frye

or

PG - Nash / Dragic
SG - Richardson / Dudley
SF - Igoudala / Hill
PF - Warrick / Clark
C - Lopez / Frye


Nash
Jrich 6'6
Hill 6'8
Al 6'10
Lopez 7'0......... Nice size and O with Nash, JRich, and Al

Dragic
Dudley 6'7
Warrick 6'9 (the PF on Offense and the SF on Defense)
Clark 6'10 (The SF on O and the PF on Def)
Frye 6'11........Nice def with Clark, Duds, Dragic. Nice O with Duds, Frye, and Dragic.

I just think Warrick is too small to guard the 4. He needs Clark on the court with him to guard the 4.

Two solid lineups. I think we can get back to the West finals with that team :D
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#22 » by Krush32 » Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:30 pm

Philly wont give us Iggy for free.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#23 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:40 pm

I stopped reading that stupid article after this...

The Suns could go after a guy like Luis Scola, who would most likely cost right around the trade exception’s value. This would be a great pickup for the Suns, and if you look at it, Amare Stoudemire for Luis Scola really isn’t all that bad of a deal.

He isn’t a huge name, but he has the skills to be an All-Star and would fit nicely next to Robin Lopez down low. Another name that could be worth the exception is Richard Jefferson, who opted out of his final year with the Spurs that would have paid him $15.2 million.

It remains to be seen how realistic these scenarios could be, but Scola and Jefferson are the caliber players the Suns could land using the trade exception in a sign-and-trade.


That is by far one of THE dumbest things I've ever read. No way is Scola worth $13 million/year. The thought of that just makes me barf. Saying Scola for Stoudemire isn't a bad deal is like pooping out of your mouth and talking out of your ass.

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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#24 » by bigchief3angle » Fri Jul 9, 2010 11:07 pm

If you want to trade J-Rich, I'm sure the Bulls would be interested. I bet they'd offer a pick, small trade exception and a young low cost player like James Johnson or Taj Gibson. They'd gladly help Phoenix rebuild if you solved their SG problem.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#25 » by KJ7 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:01 am

bigchief3angle wrote:If you want to trade J-Rich, I'm sure the Bulls would be interested. I bet they'd offer a pick, small trade exception and a young low cost player like James Johnson or Taj Gibson. They'd gladly help Phoenix rebuild if you solved their SG problem.


We need to get better, we dont need another trade exception (we've got one of those already). Can't see the pick being that good after they fill out their team so I'd shoot the trade off down.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#26 » by eastsidecrossover » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:07 pm

Sarver does what he always, let the TE expire. I personally would rather start over and stop bringing in role players to be mediocre. Your all in, or start over. He wont do that because thats what kind of an owner he is. Just like the C's. Rebuild with youth, get picks and when you have a team ready, go after a FA bc you have the cap space. I personally rather be the lottery and maybe get another pick this year to start rebuilding. Some solid guys in this next draft I think.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#27 » by grumpysaddle » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:36 pm

eastsidecrossover wrote:Sarver does what he always, let the TE expire. I personally would rather start over and stop bringing in role players to be mediocre. Your all in, or start over. He wont do that because thats what kind of an owner he is. Just like the C's. Rebuild with youth, get picks and when you have a team ready, go after a FA bc you have the cap space. I personally rather be the lottery and maybe get another pick this year to start rebuilding. Some solid guys in this next draft I think.


The Suns already have a good young core. They don't necessarily need more through drafts. Draft picks are almost always a gamble. The team will have enough for a max FA next off-season I believe. The young role players on the team work well together and for a bench, the Suns are pretty killer. I don't think the Suns are just cruising along being okay with staying a middling team. I think they are rebuilding wihtout having to completely suuuuuuuck.

The Celtics didn't really rebuild through youth and picks. I don't know what you're talking about with that one. They've made so many trades and moves for FA's, and they just got lucky to land Ray Allen from a struggling Sonics team, and an experienced, end of his prime Garnett on a terrible Minnesota team. They got lucky with Rondo coming into his own, something the Suns obviously didn't really see. Sometimes that happens. That's why i think people should give Clark some time. Especially since he hasn't gotten the actual NBA game playing time to gain any confidence or figure things out at all. However, I don't think Rondo would have developed like he had playing behind Nash in his prime.

At this point, however, Dragic is in a perfect situation to grow behind Nash. Nash is still one of the best PGs in the league (my favorite, I say the best, but I can see arguments against it), but he needs his rest now more than ever to stay effective. I just think teams don't always need to rebuild by going "all in". It just doesn't make sense for the Suns to do that at this point.

I don't understand why so many people want the Suns to just give up so people could watch them suck terribly for years and years with no certainty that they will even turn it around and be worth scrapping everything they've built up over the past 6 or so seasons. The only terrible situation the Suns are in is having a jackass banker as an owner.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#28 » by flanpaw42 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:38 pm

with amare gone now and us having a legit need at sf, why not look into making using part of the tpe to bring marion back...
He really hasnt been the same since leaving but he would easily be our 2nd or 3rd best player. he is a better rebounder and defender than anyone we currently have. and i think he would love to play with nash again... and d'antoni and kerr are both gone now... I think its something to think about.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#29 » by KJ7 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:10 pm

flanpaw42 wrote:with amare gone now and us having a legit need at sf, why not look into making using part of the tpe to bring marion back...
He really hasnt been the same since leaving but he would easily be our 2nd or 3rd best player. he is a better rebounder and defender than anyone we currently have. and i think he would love to play with nash again... and d'antoni and kerr are both gone now... I think its something to think about.


Considered Marion but he still has 4 yrs left to run on his contract. Too long for my liking.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#30 » by SideSwipe » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:14 pm

Flanpaw, Marion came to my mind yesterday also, but for LB instead of the TPE> He could even start for us at the 4 spot. While his offense and athleticism have slowed down, his defense is still really good. I would love to see him pull a Nash and end his career with the Suns. Especially now that the numbers are right. Marion at $17 million....NO, Marion at $7 million...YES! Also, looks like Marion was offered to Minny as part of an Al Jefferson package, so we know he will definitely be in play. Does DAL need Barbosa, that certainly debatable, it depends on whether or not they use Jet as trade bait elsewhere, there is still talk of them saving assets for a major play lke going after Chris Paul. Who knows though, I like the thought of Marion coming home to roost.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#31 » by Calvin Klein » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:15 pm

nevetsov wrote:You don't trade for Paul, you trade for West (borderline allstar, less than $9m per on 2 year deal) and then use him and Nash to recruit Paul in 2012 when they (Nash and Paul) both come off contract and Nash retires.

Paul
Dragic
Clark or Dudley
West
Lopez

Is one heckuva team in 2012.



Would that be better than the current Hornets roster of:

Paul
SG ???
Thornton
West
Okafor

???
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#32 » by Frank Lee » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:17 pm

Swiper wrote
Flanpaw, Marion came to my mind yesterday also, but for LB instead of the TPE> He could even start for us at the 4 spot. While his offense and athleticism have slowed down, ............. Who knows though, I like the thought of Marion coming home to roost.



Marion is 32.... he is inked for 4 yrs... when he is 36, he'll be pulling in 9+mill. (agent of the year?)

That is .... well, could be should be, awful. By then, 'coming home to roost' may be putting out to pasture.

As much as he is liked, common sense says no.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#33 » by Biscotti » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:10 am

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Yeah, I had the same thoughts about Marion. He is one of my favorite players ever to wear a Suns jersey. Just too many miles on those legs.
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Re: What to do with our TPE/J-Rich Exp. 

Post#34 » by BobbieL » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:38 am

Getting Childress for cheap and getting Hedo - I think this means JRich is gone after this year. But I wonder if the team will have cap space. Hedo is more then LB and Childress is eating into the cap. Granted, you take $13m off of Jrich and $3m off of Grant, thats $16 - so maybe just maybe, under the cap next year

God I hope Gentry is making these decisions

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